Dick Hyman
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Hi,
First post, been readin for about 2 months, kudos on a helpful forum.
I'm a 25 year old male and have been receeding at the temples/hairline fairly slowly for about 2.5 years now. IF I had to norwood it, I'd give myself a duece, although it's not very acurate.
First attempt: About February of 2005 I started using regular strength (2%) rogaine. Before treatment I would notice the occasional hair lying around, maybe 10 per day. Also, before treatment I never had any thinning anywhere except the hairline temples--no thinning at the vertex whatsoever. I used rogaine sort of half-assed for 5.5 months and noticed a slight increase in hair LOSS (as well as notcing more hairs in the shower etc and I started to thin very slightly at the vertex). I stopped the rogaine in mid june and within a month my hair thickened back up to a nice cushy level, however, my hairline remained at the further-back level since the rogaine.
A few months passed and I was essentially back to where I started: noticing about 10 hairs a day and a slow recession of the hairline. I purchased a 3 mo supply of procerin and started taking it, although not regularly. I convinced myself that I should give extra strength rogain (5% minoxidil)a shot. I felt I hadn't really followed the strict regimine suggested, and I felt that maybe the higher doesage of minoxidil might be beneficial. I used it religiously and within 3 weeks noticed a major shed begin. For the first time I was thinning at the top and vertex, and my hairline shot back significantly. After two months of continued shedding (hairs everywhere and notcible thinning) I dropped it. Once again, after stopping minoxidil, I thickened up a bit (but not quite a s full as last time. )
Now all I take is the Procerin (which I now take regularly) and I use nizoral shampoo 1% to help the itchy scalp.
My hair is thinner now than it ever has been, but I don't feel that I am "shedding" per se. I notice about 20 hairs fall out per day. I'd say that about 50% of the time I rub my hand through my hair I'll get ONE hair falling out that I can see, so it's not horrible or anything. The problem is that I know the hair isn't growing back (or at least not at a significant rate) because it is noticably thinner now than ever before. Again, mostly at the hairline and temples.
So:
1. Has anyone had success using procerin? I know this website bashes it to hell and I know there are a lot of marketers who post great stuff about it on sites like this, so my question is only for people who have used the drug and who can report on it based on PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, not based on what they've heard or read. I've only really been using it steadily for about 1 month now, and I have noticed a slight increase in rate of loss since a month ago. Also, I am able to pull out my body hair fairly easily now and I've heard that can be an effect of a dht inhibitor working. Might this mean I am responding to it? Sould I continue to take it for perhaps 3 more months to see if there is a result?
2. Propecia. I have read more horror stories on this site about this drug then I care to recall. Based on this site alone I am pretty sure there is no amount of money in the world that could get me to try this drug. Is there a reason why the company perports such a strong success rate and why (as far as I can tell) no one here has had any success with it? All I read about is how it made people's hair WORSE (especially people like me who really only need help in the hairline/temples department) and how they can't get it up, and others who have man breasts and had to get lyposuction and yet they are STILL USING finasteride. Not to mention the fact that noone knows what the long term effects of this drug will be on the prostate etc.. The thing is, if I had never been to this site, I would have started taking finasteride half a year ago, but now, forget it..I know too much. I'm just glad I read about it here and spared myself one of these nightmare scenarios.
So in sum, basically 8 months ago I started to experiment with hairloss treatments and in that 8 months I have noticed a clearly increased rate of hairloss. None of the three attempts (so far) have yielded any positive resluts.
Please let me know about your experiences with procerin.
Thanks.
First post, been readin for about 2 months, kudos on a helpful forum.
I'm a 25 year old male and have been receeding at the temples/hairline fairly slowly for about 2.5 years now. IF I had to norwood it, I'd give myself a duece, although it's not very acurate.
First attempt: About February of 2005 I started using regular strength (2%) rogaine. Before treatment I would notice the occasional hair lying around, maybe 10 per day. Also, before treatment I never had any thinning anywhere except the hairline temples--no thinning at the vertex whatsoever. I used rogaine sort of half-assed for 5.5 months and noticed a slight increase in hair LOSS (as well as notcing more hairs in the shower etc and I started to thin very slightly at the vertex). I stopped the rogaine in mid june and within a month my hair thickened back up to a nice cushy level, however, my hairline remained at the further-back level since the rogaine.
A few months passed and I was essentially back to where I started: noticing about 10 hairs a day and a slow recession of the hairline. I purchased a 3 mo supply of procerin and started taking it, although not regularly. I convinced myself that I should give extra strength rogain (5% minoxidil)a shot. I felt I hadn't really followed the strict regimine suggested, and I felt that maybe the higher doesage of minoxidil might be beneficial. I used it religiously and within 3 weeks noticed a major shed begin. For the first time I was thinning at the top and vertex, and my hairline shot back significantly. After two months of continued shedding (hairs everywhere and notcible thinning) I dropped it. Once again, after stopping minoxidil, I thickened up a bit (but not quite a s full as last time. )
Now all I take is the Procerin (which I now take regularly) and I use nizoral shampoo 1% to help the itchy scalp.
My hair is thinner now than it ever has been, but I don't feel that I am "shedding" per se. I notice about 20 hairs fall out per day. I'd say that about 50% of the time I rub my hand through my hair I'll get ONE hair falling out that I can see, so it's not horrible or anything. The problem is that I know the hair isn't growing back (or at least not at a significant rate) because it is noticably thinner now than ever before. Again, mostly at the hairline and temples.
So:
1. Has anyone had success using procerin? I know this website bashes it to hell and I know there are a lot of marketers who post great stuff about it on sites like this, so my question is only for people who have used the drug and who can report on it based on PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, not based on what they've heard or read. I've only really been using it steadily for about 1 month now, and I have noticed a slight increase in rate of loss since a month ago. Also, I am able to pull out my body hair fairly easily now and I've heard that can be an effect of a dht inhibitor working. Might this mean I am responding to it? Sould I continue to take it for perhaps 3 more months to see if there is a result?
2. Propecia. I have read more horror stories on this site about this drug then I care to recall. Based on this site alone I am pretty sure there is no amount of money in the world that could get me to try this drug. Is there a reason why the company perports such a strong success rate and why (as far as I can tell) no one here has had any success with it? All I read about is how it made people's hair WORSE (especially people like me who really only need help in the hairline/temples department) and how they can't get it up, and others who have man breasts and had to get lyposuction and yet they are STILL USING finasteride. Not to mention the fact that noone knows what the long term effects of this drug will be on the prostate etc.. The thing is, if I had never been to this site, I would have started taking finasteride half a year ago, but now, forget it..I know too much. I'm just glad I read about it here and spared myself one of these nightmare scenarios.
So in sum, basically 8 months ago I started to experiment with hairloss treatments and in that 8 months I have noticed a clearly increased rate of hairloss. None of the three attempts (so far) have yielded any positive resluts.
Please let me know about your experiences with procerin.
Thanks.