Hair Loss: Everyday is a Bad Hair Day

[hellouser]

The best thing in all this? Not to have this feeling at the back of your mind all the time:

"What does this person think of my baldness? Do they think I'm worth less because I have no hair etc."

I didn't realise how exhausting and soul crushing those thoughts were, until I got my hair back and the voice disappeared.

Every single one of us on these forums deserves this feeling. I wonder when that day will come when there's finally a 'breakthrough' in research thats actually applied 'within 5 years'. I'm getting fvcking tired of waiting.

 

[EvilLocks]

Every single one of us on these forums deserves this feeling. I wonder when that day will come when there's finally a 'breakthrough' in research thats actually applied 'within 5 years'. I'm getting fvcking tired of waiting.

Me too, hellouser. I'm so sick of waiting for something that might never happen, and if it happens it will be when my youth is wasted and my worth as a woman is low anyway. It makes me sick with rage to think about it...

 

[VeprSuper]

Evillocks, why cant you get an hair transplant like Fred?

 

[maher]

I think, this time, its really happening. Replicel partnered with Shiseido, they will pull it throught in a fast lane.

 

[VeprSuper]

Thanks, Toms. I didnt know that.

 

[Fena2000]

God, I just had visitors, but all I can think when I'm talking , is they are looking at my hair. I so wish I could have a night without worrying about it. It's sooo annoying. The bad part is this is just going to get worse, I'm scared of the future me, feel like I'm going to be completely bald. You guys still will have hair, mine is thinning everywhere.

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she has thinning all over the scalp = she has no donor area where the hair is not sensitive to dht

So so let's say repicel brings its cure on the market, will it really work for us . Don't they take the dermal sheat cells or whatever and multiply them and inject those back in the scalp? Aren't the androgen receptors on the dermal sheats? I'm not a dumb person but I don't understand how it would work for us since all our hair is androgen sensitive?

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I don't get it, why do you spend your days complaining about women and baldness when your hair is growing back? If that was me I would've gotten the hell out of here at the first sign of improvement. You write like you're still a bald man, but you're not, you found a way out. For someone like me I will never have that "golden ticket" out of baldness hell, even though I wouldn've paid a million dollars for it if I could.

Sorry you're dealing with the same. How long has your ordeal been going on, and have they actually told you you have Androgenetic Alopecia or what? I'm stilling running around in circles, not knowing what is going on.

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What's up with all these guys posting pictures of themselves, thinking they're balding , and have a fuller head of hair then me in my teenage years. I feel like I'm the worst of on this site, and I'm a woman.

 

[Fena2000]

Have you had a scalp biopsy yet? If there's miniaturization, that's almost always Androgenetic Alopecia (I've read that miniaturization can sometimes occur in Telogen Effluvium as well). I have Androgenetic Alopecia, confirmed by a scalp biopsy.

Thx joan. thats what I'm going to ask for my next appointment , a scalp biopsy. I'm tired of those dems looking through my hair like I'm a monkey for a 1 minute and then not saying anything, send me home with minoxidil and tell me to come back in 6 months. In the meantime I'm stressing myself out about what is going on. Anyway, I'm already preparing myself for the bad news though.
I'm just hoping that cure will be there soon before all my hair are gone.

question to joan or any other woman: about 3 years ago , I was given progesterone shots for about 2,5 months, to prevent premature birth baby ( because chances where high since my first was premature). Do you think it could have jump started this whole problem.

 

[Fena2000]

I don't think so, because low progesterone can actually cause hair loss, from what I've read. When I was pregnant with my first, I barely lost any hair at all (and I've always been a shedder)--my hair was so thick for the first time in my life. That's because during pregnancy, progesterone levels are really high. Three months later, I got major Telogen Effluvium, but all my hair grew back. I've had my estrogen and progesterone levels checked, and they're actually quite high for someone my age (51). I'm still taking B6 in an attempt to raise my progesterone even higher, hoping somehow it will help. I'm also using men's Rogaine in the morning only. Good luck. I hope you get some answers (not Androgenetic Alopecia though!).

Thank you for the good advice joan, I appreciate it.

 

[shookwun]

for those NW2-3 who are doing the comb over, helmet hair spray, and strand by strand cover up. Ain't fooling anybody!

Been there, everyday looks like a bad hair day so to speak. that's how the non-balding public look at it as.


take a HD camera such as a iphone, samsung s5, go outside and do a over head video of your scalp. this is how people see you as, despite somedays looking alright in the mirror.

 

[Agustin Araujo]

Hey everyone, thanks for all the posts and thank you for sharing.

 

[swingline747]

for those NW2-3 who are doing the comb over, helmet hair spray, and strand by strand cover up. Ain't fooling anybody!

Been there, everyday looks like a bad hair day so to speak. that's how the non-balding public look at it as.


take a HD camera such as a iphone, samsung s5, go outside and do a over head video of your scalp. this is how people see you as, despite somedays looking alright in the mirror.

This is what I try to tell people. You can see vids I put online and go "oh hes fine" but I use REALLY low res.
I have posted high res pre FUE pics up with wet and non wet hair and you can OBVIOUSLY see the balding. Look at my FUE post with the surgery done and see my hairline and balding.



I look at pics now and its actually better (minus my right temple which needs fixing) but still my crown is not fixed, Im still receding so I WILL need more in time to not look like an uber freak and its still not like I have my 23 year old hairline (which STILL wasnt NW1 or even 2) back!

just look at the size and slope of that forehead!

look at my bad hair day from my running pic

oh yeah great hair day that was. This is the look you try to avoid. Meanwhile my brother's hair line looks like THIS

Thanks pops, so glad I got YOUR side of the genetics..... real winner you created, you buffoon.

 

[shookwun]

Dude just get a hair system and move on with your life. address the temple points through a hair transplant, and you're golden.

Hair transplant are crap, especially if your native hair is on the relatively thin side, it'll never look great grown out. Simply put, it'll look like hair on head with minimal density. Even as a NW2-3 I got a transplant of 2250 grafts and the hair still isn't what I consider aesthetic. The diameter of the follicles are to thin, and the hair looks see through. Even the frontal forelock looks thin. These procedures only work for those with thick, and dense heads of hair not for the naturally thin, and diffuse scalps. Don't get me wrong though, it looks amazing wet, full coverage density, and perfect match towards my existing hair almost, but like i said hair on the thin side will never work especially for those elaborate styles such as a pompadour or anything involving exposing the hairline over 2 inches. A mens short, and tight sides, around a 1-2 works well though, looks perfect in that case. case in point, when you're balding for over five years, you don't want to be limited to a buzz cut, and a tapered men's short. Had high hopes to grow it out, and have luscious locks, but that'll never happen if your on the diffuse or thin side.

with that in mind I suggest you go and get one of those HD4k hair systems which feel and look undetectable during those intimate moments.


If expressing yourself through your hair is what your after then a hair system is the only way. A hair transplant will minimally resolve the issue, and in return still inhibit your from fully expressing your personality

The thing with hair transplants and lighting is it varies highly, sometimes it looks great and other times it looks horrific. It isn't consistent, and that's why going outside with a HD camera and doing a over head video is the only option for the truth.

 

[swingline747]

Are you serious? You have that much mucle, you are a tank, yet you try to keep some grandpa hair on your head? Just shave it off and you'll look like a badass!!! Get some tattoos, nice clothes, and that's it, you're pretty much handsome.

I thought you are a skinny/fat nerd that can't shave because of looking like a cancer patient, but you can just shave it off man, no need to grow hair out with that hairline

This isnt a serious post correct?

Tell me you are not one of those? I HAVE to work out now. Where I used to do it because I loved and and it made me feel good now I HAVE to do it or fall into the catagory of "out of shape bald guy". When you HAVE to do something it takes all the fun and integrity out of it.
Second I state CONSTANTLY I shaved my head for TWO YEARS. It was an awful look on me that made me feel and appear like an inmate. EVERY woman in my life told me to never shave my head again when I regrew what hair I had.

I have tattoos and piercings. I own nice clothes, again when you shave your head you HAVE to leave the house like THIS



everyday.
Its just exhausting. Plus regardless you will always be overlooked for someone with hair. Dude seriously LOOK at the size of my forehead... do you REALLY think a shaved head looks good on that?
Also I have SUPER thick eyebrows so I constantly had to get them shaped up or I looked like a RETARD.
Plus I dont grow the best facial hair. My idiot brother got those genes to. I grow a ****ty beard and moustache that NEVER connects. OH and Im covered in body hair. So unless I shave my damn chest and arms every TWO days I look like a gorilla.

So now picture a bald, hairy body covered in tattoos with that build approaching?? Oh yeah REAAAALLLLL sexy

ANYONE can get in shape. If you are not in shape its YOUR fault. Go work out. You want to rag on fat people then work out yourself. Not everyone can grow hair. At least where hair matters.

Yeah no one talk crap to your face with a body like that but without the facial looks (IE HAIR) no women will talk to you at all either.

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If you chose an obscure surgeon or weren't a candidate beforehand, then you only have yourself to blame.

Ummmm I think you need to check your wording, how does not being a "good candidate" put the blame on you?
Thats not he persons fault. Some people have very thin or overly diffuse hair. They shouldnt be blaming themselves for that, they should be blaming conditions or genetics.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

I understand swingline perfectly. I might technically be a NW3v, but under most lighting conditions I look to be a few dozen hairs away from being a NW6. That's why I have a problem with the arguing between the low(NW3) and high norwoods. As far as Toms just shave it and become the stereotypical bald meat head comment, all I have to say is if it is so easy to do it then why don't you do it? I don't want to speak for swingline, but personally I don't want to be that guy. I am not as big as swingline but I am in pretty good shape, but I just don't want that look for myself and will fight it as long as I can.

For all the "just shave it" guys, you really should refrain from giving that recommendation until you have done it yourself.

 

[shookwun]

@ Fred

my hair transplant was succesfull, and I speak from experience on hair transplants. We are different all together, that's why we are not in agreement. You're fine with a buzzcut, and never being able to grow your hair out, because trust me it wont look good. High and tight is the only option.

I on other hand would like the freedom to grow it out, and look good while doing so. Hair transplant realy aren't a viable option like surgeons have you believe. Hair transplants aren't optimal for those over NW4, and are diffuse thinning to begin with. They'll never look good, and in your case the hairline will start at the back of the head to preserve donor supply, and maintain a 'conservative approach'.


You aren't a good candidate for hair transplant, and you will be stuck with a buzz cut for life Try growing your diffuse hair transplant out, and only then you'l see where i'm coming from. Easy to talk, when you have a #1 guard ontop of your hair just giving you a hair outline rather then a style. soon enough you'll diffuse even further due to not being on a medication, and start to become even more apparent of your uneducated decision towards hair restoration.


Funny how you always seem to bash hair systems, and finasteride yet you're on neither let alone tried. As if you speak from experience:roll:

 

[swingline747]

@ Fred

my hair transplant was succesfull, and I speak from experience on hair transplants. We are different all together, that's why we are not in agreement. You're fine with a buzzcut, and never being able to grow your hair out, because trust me it wont look good. High and tight is the only option.

I on other hand would like the freedom to grow it out, and look good while doing so. Hair transplant realy aren't a viable option like surgeons have you believe. Hair transplants aren't optimal for those over NW4, and are diffuse thinning to begin with. They'll never look good, and in your case the hairline will start at the back of the head to preserve donor supply, and maintain a 'conservative approach'.


You aren't a good candidate for hair transplant, and you will be stuck with a buzz cut for life Try growing your diffuse hair transplant out, and only then you'l see where i'm coming from. Easy to talk, when you have a #1 guard ontop of your hair just giving you a hair outline rather then a style. soon enough you'll diffuse even further due to not being on a medication, and start to become even more apparent of your uneducated decision towards hair restoration.


Funny how you always seem to bash hair systems, and finasteride yet you're on neither let alone tried. As if you speak from experience:roll:

I get your point as well. I always knew a hair transplant was 50/50 hit or miss. It was going to inevitably be more procedures and a pretty washed out look over all if I progressed to the point of my idiot pops. In fact what sucks is it looks like my donor area is worse than his and HIS was what I used to judge my possibilities.
Hes FULL NW7 and its an AWFUL look on him. A hair system is not viable just due to the cost and upkeep. What if I lost my job or had to cut back costs. What would life be like one day a Norwood 2 or 2.5 then the next a NW6+? Plus they have to attach that to existing hair, so my hairline would still NOT be where I want it. Do you have pics of your system, before and afters?

There is NO 100% fix for the situation. What works with one doesnt always with another. And for some there just is NO fix.

I tried finasteride and got horrible sides, where some get none and it works wonders, others get no sides but also no growth. Everything is a crap shoot.
Right now I use a topical finasteride with 10% minoxidil in it. Im clinging to the thought its helping...... otherwise Im doomed.

 

[Agustin Araujo]

@ Fred

my hair transplant was succesfull, and I speak from experience on hair transplants. We are different all together, that's why we are not in agreement. You're fine with a buzzcut, and never being able to grow your hair out, because trust me it wont look good. High and tight is the only option.

I on other hand would like the freedom to grow it out, and look good while doing so. Hair transplant realy aren't a viable option like surgeons have you believe. Hair transplants aren't optimal for those over NW4, and are diffuse thinning to begin with. They'll never look good, and in your case the hairline will start at the back of the head to preserve donor supply, and maintain a 'conservative approach'.


You aren't a good candidate for hair transplant, and you will be stuck with a buzz cut for life Try growing your diffuse hair transplant out, and only then you'l see where i'm coming from. Easy to talk, when you have a #1 guard ontop of your hair just giving you a hair outline rather then a style. soon enough you'll diffuse even further due to not being on a medication, and start to become even more apparent of your uneducated decision towards hair restoration.


Funny how you always seem to bash hair systems, and finasteride yet you're on neither let alone tried. As if you speak from experience:roll:

What the heck are you talking about with FredTheBelgian's hair transplant and that he's not a good candidate for it? It has improved a lot since he got it and it's not even at 100% full results. He's also using Minoxidil which helps to keep hair in the anagen phase, and you said he isn't using any medication. As long as his donor hair is completely resistant to DHT, it will never start to diffuse again. Someone who is truly unfit for a hair transplant are those who's hair on the back and sides of the head aren't completely resistant to DHT, which is where the donor hair usually comes from.

 

[doublebatman]

HAVE to leave the house like THIS

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Matt Goss looks ridiculously good bald, that said he's magically got a full head of really thick hair now. He looks great with hair though. Lucky bastard

Either an amazing hair transplant or a wig.

 

[shookwun]

What are you talking about with FredTheBelgian's hair transplant and that he's not a good candidate for it? It has improved a lot since he got it and it's not even at 100% full results. He's also using Minoxidil which helps to keep hair in the anagen phase, and you said he isn't using any medication. As long as his donor hair is completely resistant to DHT, it will never start to diffuse again. Someone who is truly unfit for a hair transplant are those who's hair on the back and sides of the head aren't completely resistant to DHT, which is where the donor hair usually comes from.

- Minioxidil is a vasodilator, it increases blood flow to the scalp doesn't inhibit DHT from binding to the follicle

-He's a diffuse thinner. In most cases he's thinning all over, which is other wise known as DUPA.

- Hair on sides and back isn't as resistant to DHT as most like to think. Especially around the ears, along the back of the neck, these gradually thin along with DUPA/male pattern baldness. But in fred's case all the hair gradually thins over time.

- Not being on propecia = game over.

 

[Agustin Araujo]

But in fred's case all the hair gradually thins over time.

All his hair? Does that mean he's going to thin out over time until he's completely bald all over his head? I don't believe that.