Have Sheseido/repicel Announced Providing Their Treatment Outside Japan And Canada?

[Nano123]

If you're flying to Japan from the other side of the world and paying for accommodation that's going to be expensive, does any one know what they might be up to or if they've announced that they'll be spreading this to other continents?

 

[hanginginthewire]

Understand the anticipation but I think you are getting a wee bit ahead of yourself.

 

[paleocapa89]

More importantly, will foreigners be allowed to have a treatment in Japan that is basically still in phase3? Im just wondering.

 

[That Guy]

If you're flying to Japan from the other side of the world and paying for accommodation that's going to be expensive, does any one know what they might be up to or if they've announced that they'll be spreading this to other continents?

RepliCel will never release RCH-01 in Asia and Shiseido will never release its version of the product outside of Asia. That's the deal.

Lee Buckler said that RCH-01 will not be available until sometime in the 2020s.

More importantly, will foreigners be allowed to have a treatment in Japan that is basically still in phase3? Im just wondering.

Quite possibly not since the treatment will be offered at hospitals and not at specialized clinics or dermatologists.

I can easily see the Japanese government not wanting hordes of balding foreigners filling up their hospitals.

 

[MrV88]

RepliCel will never release RCH-01 in Asia and Shiseido will never release its version of the product outside of Asia. That's the deal.

Lee Buckler said that RCH-01 will not be available until sometime in the 2020s.



Quite possibly not since the treatment will be offered at hospitals and not at specialized clinics or dermatologists.

I can easily see the Japanese government not wanting hordes of balding foreigners filling up their hospitals.

Why should a private company offer maybe the best anti hair loss product just in hospitals? I don't think that they are just doing this for Japanese people only since they have the rights to sell it in Asia as a whole and not just Japan.

İn the end it is all about the money and making maybe billions for a long time until cloning etc is out.

 

[mr_robot]

Why should a private company offer maybe the best anti hair loss product just in hospitals? I don't think that they are just doing this for Japanese people only since they have the rights to sell it in Asia as a whole and not just Japan.

İn the end it is all about the money and making maybe billions for a long time until cloning etc is out.

They won't be, it'ill be done in private clinics as the procedure can be done under local anesthetic. Baring some government ban on foreign patients they will happily take your money.

 

[br1]

They won't be, it'ill be done in private clinics as the procedure can be done under local anesthetic. Baring some government ban on foreign patients they will happily take your money.

It's because they said at some point that Shiseido would offer the treatment in hospitals...

 

[mr_robot]

It's because they said at some point that Shiseido would offer the treatment in hospitals...

A lot of public hospitals rent out their facilities for private use, also plenty of private hospitals out there. I'm not sure what model the Japanese use for public healthcare but it is highly unlikely the government will be paying for any of these proceedures even once they become mainstream which I guess the point of "foreigners filling up hospitals" was elluding to.

 

[Pauly198]

Maybe Hellouser can get some more info on this subject at the congress

 

[paleocapa89]

I was wondering whether foreigners will be allowed to benefit from the treatment, because the treatment will be still in phase3 if I understand it correctly.

Let me give you an example: If I go to Amsterdam I'm legally still a citizen of my home country and according to my home country's laws I'm not allowed to smoke marijuana. I can do it anyways, but legally I shouldn't

So by that analogy, Japanese people are legally allowed to benefit from a cell therapy that is still in phase3 but maybe as a foreigner I will not be allowed. Anyway in that case I will file for asylum if I need to. A hair asylum.

 

[MrV88]

I was wondering whether foreigners will be allowed to benefit from the treatment, because the treatment will be still in phase3 if I understand it correctly.

Let me give you an example: If I go to Amsterdam I'm legally still a citizen of my home country and according to my home country's laws I'm not allowed to smoke marijuana. I can do it anyways, but legally I shouldn't

So by that analogy, Japanese people are legally allowed to benefit from a cell therapy that is still in phase3 but maybe as a foreigner I will not be allowed. Anyway in that case I will file for asylum if I need to. A hair asylum.

Doesn't matter if you are a citizen of your country or a foreigner, the law of the country you are in is valid for everybody. So if you can smoke marijuana in Amsterdam as citizen you can smoke it too as a foreigner. İf it ain't allowed like in Germany it is forbidden for everyone. The law of your home country ain't valid for the country you are in except some cases like tax, terrorism and other big things.

The only thing would be that the Japanese government would pay for its own citizen that pay their insurance correctly and foreigners must pay for their own, but a ban would be ridiculous. They will earn a lot of money with it and foreigners would fly to Japan, spend money and pay for the treatment just to get it so extra income and reputation for the country!

 

[That Guy]

Why should a private company offer maybe the best anti hair loss product just in hospitals? I don't think that they are just doing this for Japanese people only since they have the rights to sell it in Asia as a whole and not just Japan.

İn the end it is all about the money and making maybe billions for a long time until cloning etc is out.

Shiseido is not a private company and the press release from when they announced their acquisition of the license clearly stated that although they built a cell-culturing facility, the actual treatment will be carried out in hospitals.

 

[MrV88]

Shiseido is not a private company and the press release from when they announced their acquisition of the license clearly stated that although they built a cell-culturing facility, the actual treatment will be carried out in hospitals.

Didn't knew about the first announcement, but why is Shiseido not a private company?
The company trades on the Tokyo stock exchange and was founded in 1872.

I think you mean this:

While Shiseido’s manufacturing facility is certified by the Japanese PMDA, the clinical study is hospital-initiated and governed which means that Shiseido’s role in the trial is restricted to funding and manufacturing. Any eventual commercialization of the product in Japan as a result of this study would be done as a treatment provided in partnership with hospitals under the authority of the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare and its Act on the Safety of Regenerative Medicine.

 

[jake_b]

I can easily see the Japanese government not wanting hordes of balding foreigners filling up their hospitals.

Japanese hospitals and clinics are mostly privately owned, even at a higher rate than the United States. There is nothing stopping more private clinics from opening to meet the demand.

 

[That Guy]

Didn't knew about the first announcement, but why is Shiseido not a private company?
The company trades on the Tokyo stock exchange and was founded in 1872.

That is why

 

[Hero]

this cant be happening

Like "That Guy" said, Buckler is likely referring to Replicel's version of it and not Shiseido's. This doesn't imply that Shiseido's will release before 2020 either, if ever, though.

 

[Spanishboy97]

Like "That Guy" said, Buckler is likely referring to Replicel's version of it and not Shiseido's. This doesn't imply that Shiseido's will release before 2020 either, if ever, though.

If they built a frigging facility they might as well release the damn thing

 

[bigentries]

That is why

I think he means "private" as "not government owned" not "privately held" which is the reason why the hospital thing was discussed

 

[Nano123]

Guess I should start saving up for a two-week trip to Japan, and maybe a few more prayers that they release he treatment in 2018. Ugh.

 

[Feelsbadman.jpg]

Buy some replicel stock. It's dirt cheap and if Shiseido does release next year, It's highly likely that REPCF will see a nice spike. That should pay for your tickets and treatment.