I saw so many significantly balding men with attractive partners today

[INT]

no but this is how it goes
i say how im ugly and bald.
and they say theres nothing wrong with me
ofc a therapist wont say youre ugly
then they tell me i need to talk to women and to try dating apps
i tell them i still miss my ex gf after years then they go.through all the bad things about her
then i realise she was a bad women
then i get.charged $150 and im supposed to feel better

You only spoke to one therapist so stop saying ‘they’.

 

[INT]

just go to therapy bro !
works every time bro!!

Therapy does not work every time. Succes also strongly depends on the attitude towards therapy of the client/patient (as you demonstrated). It is still the best way to deal with depression.

 

[Feelsbadman]

Therapy does not work every time. Succes also strongly depends on the attitude towards therapy of the client/patient (as you demonstrated). It is still the best way to deal with depression.

im not depressed at all

 

[INT]

im not depressed at all

Are you really going to make me go through your posts again?

 

[Feelsbadman]

Are you really going to make me go through your posts again?

Well yea you're right in the sense i'm depressed because i;m ugly and no women like me despite trying my best (genetics)
but other than that i feel fine

 

[INT]

Well yea you're right in the sense i'm depressed because i;m ugly and no women like me despite trying my best (genetics)
but other than that i feel fine

Well, since that is a huge part of your life and you open threads about how much you are suffering from it I find it hard to believe that you are otherwise totally fine.

 

[disfiguredyoungman]

Yeah, let’s base your entire opinion on therapy on the report of one guy who claims finasteride made him shorter.

Who says that is my only frame of reference.

no but this is how it goes
i say how im ugly and bald.
and they say theres nothing wrong with me
ofc a therapist wont say youre ugly
then they tell me i need to talk to women and to try dating apps
i tell them i still miss my ex gf after years then they go.through all the bad things about her
then i realise she was a bad women
then i get.charged $150 and im supposed to feel better

Get a new therapist asap. She is utterly out of touch if she thought that was good advice. Even average looking men perform miserably on these shitty apps. It's definetely not a way to build up confidence in a guy who struggles with dating. The polar opposite actually.

 

[Oknow]

Who says that is my only frame of reference.


Get a new therapist asap. She is utterly out of touch if she thought that was good advice. Even average looking men perform miserably on these shitty apps. It's definetely not a way to build up confidence in a guy who struggles with dating. The polar opposite actually.

bit of a catch 22
Not going on any dates, without any hope of going on one is going to impact confidence

 

[disfiguredyoungman]

bit of a catch 22
Not going on any dates, without any hope of going on one is going to impact confidence

Not as much as getting rejected a million times or getting tangled up in stupid, abusive and short-term 'relationships'. There are other and more effective ways of dating, or at least getting into contact with women. In online marketing we have a metric called visibility and a metric called conversion rate. Your visibility in dating apps is sky high but your conversion rate is abysmall.
Combine that with the inclinations of a guy who feels unloved and you have a recipe for desaster.

 

[Oknow]

Not as much as getting rejected a million times or getting tangled up in stupid, abusive and short-term 'relationships'. There are other and more effective ways of dating, or at least getting into contact with women. In online marketing we have a metric called visibility and a metric called conversion rate. Your visibility in dating apps is sky high but your conversion rate is abysmall.
Combine that with the inclinations of a guy who feels unloved and you have a recipe for desaster.

See your point, that happens too.
But I do know from experience having no dates is depressing as f***,once went through a 4 year drought where I didn't go on a single date.

 

[disfiguredyoungman]

See your point, that happens too.
But I do know from experience having no dates is depressing as f***,once went through a 4 year drought where I didn't go on a single date.

It depends on the situation, but there are other ways of meeting/dating women, too. Not using a dating app doesn't mean that you can't see a woman for 4 years. It's just obvious that this whole dating app thing is not working out AT ALL for feelsbadman.

 

[Oknow]

It depends on the situation, but there are other ways of meeting/dating women, too. Not using a dating app doesn't mean that you can't see a woman for 4 years. It's just obvious that this whole dating app thing is not working out AT ALL for feelsbadman.

I was totally against dating apps before that drought, tried cold approach, bars , clubs, speed dating , got a dating coach

none of it worked until I got myself on the apps

 

[Butterbean Head]

See your point, that happens too.
But I do know from experience having no dates is depressing as f***,once went through a 4 year drought where I didn't go on a single date.

Arranged marriage?

 

[doubleindemnity]

I was totally against dating apps before that drought, tried cold approach, bars , clubs, speed dating , got a dating coach

none of it worked until I got myself on the apps

This story here is kind of why I dislike apps and their effect on society. They are so efficient. In the past, around 90s, it seems to me like a guy could actually work and improve his prospects. All of that nonsense like getting in shape, working on social skills, dressing well etc. would actually yield a result. Now, as this story illustrates, you use apps and fall or rise to the level of the way that you look, which comes mostly down to your Norwood level. Industrious bald guys lose out and guys who have hair but are otherwise not really serious about it can do very well (not saying that you are not serious about it but that your story illustrates my point). Myself I had two pro photoshoots with both photographers claiming to have very happy customers who saw an improvement. I ran out of people to swipe in a huge city. I recently went for a third photoshoot and am about to relaunch but I already know what the result will be. The purpose of your photo is to show you clearly; beyond that you can't influence with a good photograph or dissuade somebody with a bad one. The photo shows you and your Norwood level and then you get the corresponding results. Bald guys should give up... I don't know what has kept me going for 5+ years.

 

[DyingOfTheLight]

This story here is kind of why I dislike apps and their effect on society. They are so efficient. In the past, around 90s, it seems to me like a guy could actually work and improve his prospects. All of that nonsense like getting in shape, working on social skills, dressing well etc. would actually yield a result. Now, as this story illustrates, you use apps and fall or rise to the level of the way that you look, which comes mostly down to your Norwood level. Industrious bald guys lose out and guys who have hair but are otherwise not really serious about it can do very well (not saying that you are not serious about it but that your story illustrates my point). Myself I had two pro photoshoots with both photographers claiming to have very happy customers who saw an improvement. I ran out of people to swipe in a huge city. I recently went for a third photoshoot and am about to relaunch but I already know what the result will be. The purpose of your photo is to show you clearly; beyond that you can't influence with a good photograph or dissuade somebody with a bad one. The photo shows you and your Norwood level and then you get the corresponding results. Bald guys should give up... I don't know what has kept me going for 5+ years.

it's marvelous how rigid your mind works, like clockwork you spew out these paragraphs of concentrated anxiety
you're an articulate and intelligent fella but god damn do something. move a muscle, stop letting fear force your thoughts into the same old patterns that end up nowhere only nipping at their own tail like some baldness ouroboros
your problem isn't baldness boyo, it's fear

 

[doubleindemnity]

it's marvelous how rigid your mind works, like clockwork you spew out these paragraphs of concentrated anxiety
you're an articulate and intelligent fella but god damn do something. move a muscle, stop letting fear force your thoughts into the same old patterns that end up nowhere only nipping at their own tail like some baldness ouroboros
your problem isn't baldness boyo, it's fear

Do what exactly? Fear of what exactly? I'm bald and most of the parts of life that I care about are already decided based on that.

 

[UnLuckyLuciano]

Recent story involving a woman:

A good friend has this cute curly woman friend that was complaining to him that she lacks dick. We've met at a party and I tried my shot, but I got rejected. Then she kept complaining to him about the same problem and he asked her why didn't she gave me a chance if she wanted dick. She didn't answer that question, but, now, he updated me on her dick status and she happily has a nw1 fuckfriend.
And this is literally 90% of young women.
I don't blame them, I understand them perfectly, but f*** you life.

 

[Feelsbadman]

Recent story involving a woman:

A good friend has this cute curly woman friend that was complaining to him that she lacks dick. We've met at a party and I tried my shot, but I got rejected. Then she kept complaining to him about the same problem and he asked her why didn't she gave me a chance if she wanted dick. She didn't answer that question, but, now, he updated me on her dick status and she happily has a nw1 fuckfriend.
And this is literally 90% of young women.
I don't blame them, I understand them perfectly, but f*** you life.

next time you just got to be confident and have a positive mind set bro!
works every time bro!

 

[UnLuckyLuciano]

See your point, that happens too.
But I do know from experience having no dates is depressing as f***,once went through a 4 year drought where I didn't go on a single date.

Would you prefer having a wonderful streak of 10 rejections in a row in 3 years of being bald getting rejected by women that you wouldnt even date when you had hair ?

 

[Derelict]

Recent story involving a woman:

A good friend has this cute curly woman friend that was complaining to him that she lacks dick. We've met at a party and I tried my shot, but I got rejected. Then she kept complaining to him about the same problem and he asked her why didn't she gave me a chance if she wanted dick. She didn't answer that question, but, now, he updated me on her dick status and she happily has a nw1 fuckfriend.
And this is literally 90% of young women.
I don't blame them, I understand them perfectly, but f*** you life.

Yeah, i would avoid a woman like that like the plague anyway, not exactly losing much.