Inflammation/Diet; cause of M.P.B.?

[bunchies]

mmm the milk theory could be true , i drink about 1.5-2 liters milk every 2 days and everyone on this forums says i still have a NW1 (when my hair is wet)

And yes diet is prolly very important for youre hair , just look at the people in the UK , ive read that they lose there hair very fast and they usually eat allot of greasy things too like bacon , saucages , etc as breakfast .

greetz

 

[follicle84]

Inflammation can make it difficult for hair to grow. Dealing with this can help hairloss treatments to work better. True inflammation is a contibuting factor to hairloss but i dont think preventing this alone will stop hairloss, just maybe slow it down. Inflammation can be caused by dietry problems as well as your own bodies immune system not too mention external factors. Beta systerol is an intresting supplement to take im hearing more and more good things about this supplement. Its apparently a dht inhibitor thats good for your prostate. Its has anti estrogenic properties too i hear which means ther's less chance of developing Gyno unlike most dht inhibitors. I think i might try it.

 

[Boondock]

If you're experiencing male pattern baldness, you won't be able to stem it from drinking milk or eating healthy foods. It just isn't going to happen.

You should eat healthy anyway, for the general health benefits. Will it help your hair as well? Maybe to some extent. But unless you get on some proper treatment - whether through lasers, androgen blockers, a cocktail of naturals, or whatever - it's really unlikely that you'll make any gains. Show me just one story of someone in the 'Success' section halting their loss through healthy diet alone.

 

[barcafan]

Dairy, soda, candy, sweets, pastries, are absolutly devestating to the health of your body and hair.

Here are some statements from the great biochemist Roger Williams in his outstanding book Nutrition Against Disease (Williams is the scientist who actually discovered pantothenic acid, and gave folic acid its name). It's from the chapter titled "Food Fads" (the emphasis added to that one sentence in the middle is my own):

"Those who know and care about the chemical composition of milk--what food qualities it possesses--realize that it contains a most unusually well balanced assortment of minerals (except iron, which is a notable lack), amino acids, and vitamins, and that its chemical composition makes it an extraordinarily good food for old or young... Those who have experimented with feeding laboratory animals milk and milk products know that its value as a well-rounded food is outstanding and difficult to match with any other common food. Almost any animal consuming a diet free from milk will have its condition improved if some milk is added to its diet. This effect is brought about not only by the minerals and vitamins, which are extraordinarily well balanced, but also by the excellent balance of the amino acids in milk proteins... Any extreme position with respect to milk--either that it should be used universally or that its use should be restricted to small children--is a faddist notion which cannot be defended scientifically... Milk is such a marvelously complete food in so many respects that it seems a shame if its nutritional value has to be lost to any substantial part of the population."

Well maybe he means Organic unpasteurized milk. Not this processed sh*t that you buy in grocery stores.

 

[Jokerman]

It's funny how no one has ever shown proof with pictures that they've reversed their male pattern baldness through a change in diet or by using other natural remedies.

Not once. Ever.

 

[zephyr31]

having your scalp in good condition is a must for hair regrowth, thats why nizoral works so well.

 

[OverMachoGrande]

Dairy, soda, candy, sweets, pastries, are absolutly devestating to the health of your body and hair.

Here are some statements from the great biochemist Roger Williams in his outstanding book Nutrition Against Disease (Williams is the scientist who actually discovered pantothenic acid, and gave folic acid its name). It's from the chapter titled "Food Fads" (the emphasis added to that one sentence in the middle is my own):

"Those who know and care about the chemical composition of milk--what food qualities it possesses--realize that it contains a most unusually well balanced assortment of minerals (except iron, which is a notable lack), amino acids, and vitamins, and that its chemical composition makes it an extraordinarily good food for old or young... Those who have experimented with feeding laboratory animals milk and milk products know that its value as a well-rounded food is outstanding and difficult to match with any other common food. Almost any animal consuming a diet free from milk will have its condition improved if some milk is added to its diet. This effect is brought about not only by the minerals and vitamins, which are extraordinarily well balanced, but also by the excellent balance of the amino acids in milk proteins... Any extreme position with respect to milk--either that it should be used universally or that its use should be restricted to small children--is a faddist notion which cannot be defended scientifically... Milk is such a marvelously complete food in so many respects that it seems a shame if its nutritional value has to be lost to any substantial part of the population."

Well maybe he means Organic unpasteurized milk. Not this processed sh*t that you buy in grocery stores.

No. Organic unpasteurized milk is the much lesser of the two evils...Plus milk is not what it used to be; not the "healthy" stuff our grandparents use to drink. Now days it is, like Barcafan said: Processed; plently of chemicals, anti-biotics, pus, blood, estrogens, and not to mention high levels of IGF-1; high levels of IGF-1 are shown to cause balding. Humans are suppose to drink human-breast-milk until they grow, then they are suppose to take on another diet. Do you see other animals drinking other animals milk? Do you see a full grown animal still drinking milk?

 

[OverMachoGrande]

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[OverMachoGrande]

I have seen way too many fat, stinky lard-asses that pig out every night at all-you-can-eat buffets at Ponderosa and tip the scales at 425 lbs and have ALLLLLL their hair with great hairlines. Diet doesnt mean crap. It might not hurt to eat healthy but that along with smoking have been proven not to factor in in male pattern baldness.

They must have high levels of S.H.B.G. which increases as you age, but decreases with high insulin levels.

 

[OverMachoGrande]

Inflammation can make it difficult for hair to grow. Dealing with this can help hairloss treatments to work better. True inflammation is a contibuting factor to hairloss but i dont think preventing this alone will stop hairloss, just maybe slow it down. Inflammation can be caused by dietry problems as well as your own bodies immune system not too mention external factors. Beta systerol is an intresting supplement to take im hearing more and more good things about this supplement. Its apparently a dht inhibitor thats good for your prostate. Its has anti estrogenic properties too i hear which means ther's less chance of developing Gyno unlike most dht inhibitors. I think i might try it.

Your right. Microscopic or "silent" inflammation along with a hormonal imbalance together is what I believe causes hair loss. Beta Sitosterol has worked wonders for me, almost no hair fall at all...even after a nizoral wash!

 

[Bryan]

Well maybe he means Organic unpasteurized milk. Not this processed sh*t that you buy in grocery stores.

Williams makes a lot more comments about milk in his book besides just the ones I quoted. Nowhere does he say anything about using organic ubpasteurized milk, instead of the "processed sh*t that you buy in grocery stores".

 

[Bryan]

high levels of IGF-1 are shown to cause balding.

I've seen studies that mention IGF-1 as being a factor necessary or important for hair growth.

Humans are suppose to drink human-breast-milk until they grow, then they are suppose to take on another diet.

How do we really know what humans are "supposed" to eat or drink? Are humans "supposed" to eat something growing in the ground (carrots)? Are they "supposed" to eat something growing on a tree (apples)? Are they "supposed" to eat FISH EGGS (caviar), for god's sake?

Do you see other animals drinking other animals milk? Do you see a full grown animal still drinking milk?

Sure! Put a saucer of cow's milk in front of a fully grown cat or dog, and see what happens.

The only reason that other animals don't usually drink the milk from another species is that they don't normally have it AVAILABLE to them. If they did, they'd lap it up like nobody's business!

 

[OverMachoGrande]

high levels of IGF-1 are shown to cause balding.

I've seen studies that mention IGF-1 as being a factor necessary or important for hair growth.

Humans are suppose to drink human-breast-milk until they grow, then they are suppose to take on another diet.

How do we really know what humans are "supposed" to eat or drink? Are humans "supposed" to eat something growing in the ground (carrots)? Are they "supposed" to eat something growing on a tree (apples)? Are they "supposed" to eat FISH EGGS (caviar), for god's sake?

Do you see other animals drinking other animals milk? Do you see a full grown animal still drinking milk?

Sure! Put a saucer of cow's milk in front of a fully grown cat or dog, and see what happens.

The only reason that other animals don't usually drink the milk from another species is that they don't normally have it AVAILABLE to them. If they did, they'd lap it up like nobody's business!

IGF-1: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10827403
IGF-1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHYFOJBU434
IGF-1/Estrogen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opBJp7jc8wk
IGF-1/Estrogen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J0F9P9e ... re=channel
Milk: http://www.tbkfitness.com/milk.html
Milk: http://www.rense.com/general26/milk.htm

"How do we really know what humans are "supposed" to eat or drink? Are humans "supposed" to eat something growing in the ground (carrots)? Are they "supposed" to eat something growing on a tree (apples)? Are they "supposed" to eat FISH EGGS (caviar), for god's sake?"

Well considering humans stop producing breast milk after a couple of years of their offsprings birth, that might say something.

"The only reason that other animals don't usually drink the milk from another species is that they don't normally have it AVAILABLE to them. If they did, they'd lap it up like nobody's business!"

Same could be said for cupcakes

 

[ryan r]

Oh my god.

Are we supposed to have bloodtransfusions?

Are we supposed to get surgery?

Are we supposed to get other people's organs in our bodies?

What is 'supposed' to anyway, what nature intended?

Maybe we're smarter than mother nature?

Mother nature did such a good job on our brains, that we surpassed her and now we're able to make up our own minds.

And all this controversy about milk, isnt it common knowledge that milk is good? A lot of calcium to begin with...

 

[OverMachoGrande]

Oops...How could I forget this one: http://www.notmilk.com/

 

[Bryan]

"The only reason that other animals don't usually drink the milk from another species is that they don't normally have it AVAILABLE to them. If they did, they'd lap it up like nobody's business!"

Same could be said for cupcakes

EXACTLY. I've made my point.

 

[barcafan]

Well maybe he means Organic unpasteurized milk. Not this processed sh*t that you buy in grocery stores.

Williams makes a lot more comments about milk in his book besides just the ones I quoted. Nowhere does he say anything about using organic ubpasteurized milk, instead of the "processed sh*t that you buy in grocery stores".

Perhaps his conclusions about milk were made before pasteurization was so commonly used (commercially, that is). There is a huge distinction between the milk of now and the milk of the 40's, for example.

 

[Bryan]

Perhaps his conclusions about milk were made before pasteurization was so commonly used (commercially, that is). There is a huge distinction between the milk of now and the milk of the 40's, for example.

His book was originally pulished in 1971. I think it's safe to say that pasteurization was quite common at that point!

 

[ali777]

Perhaps his conclusions about milk were made before pasteurization was so commonly used (commercially, that is). There is a huge distinction between the milk of now and the milk of the 40's, for example.

I somehow don't agree with your comments on pasteurization. I know the history of pasteurization, etc but my "uneducated" grandparents were farmers and they always boiled the milk after milking the cows, I'm talking about the milk for home consumption. I'm pretty certain the need to boil milk was was known long before pasteurization was discovered.

I think you can ignore the effects of pasteurization. If the milk of the 40s was so different, it is more likely as a result of the chemicals in the environment.

 

[OverMachoGrande]

Farmers did not begin using rBGH until 1993 or 1994. Research rBGH!