Is There Any Hope For Future Hair Loss Treatments?

[Roberto_72]

The way I see it, in ascending order of likelihood and proximity:

1 - there will never be a drug that allows you to recover lost hair after the follicle has been inactive for some years (meaning it has produced no vellus whatsoever). If the follicle has been dead for some hair cycles, it's dead for good, all researchers seem to show (even Brotzu puts a five years limit to his apparently miraculous potion...)

2 - there might someday be a drug that allows you to recover lost hair (i.e.: re-activate follicles) if the follicle has been recently producing vellus. But this will probably come later than (3) and (4), so it is possible that if (3) and (4) are true, there is no need to spend research money on this topic.

3 - there will probably be some day a drug that works like propecia and avodart, but with fewer side effects, and able to stop hairloss in a bigger share of the balding of the population. This seems to me like the gold mine for researchers.

4 - there will surely be one day a method that allows for in-vitro replication of your own hair (Dutch scientists have created an artificial hamburger based on a single meat molecule. How far away can hair be?). That day, the problem of hair transplant (the donor - recipient ratio) is solved and baldness is practically solved via massive hair transplants (think of 20.000 grafts per expensive but definitive session).

I have a feeling that if (3) (i.e.: a good drug to prevent hairloss) comes before (4), then (4) becomes useless to spend research time and money on because bald men will be fewer and fewer.

 

[hellouser]

4 - there will surely be one day a method that allows for in-vitro replication of your own hair (Dutch scientists have created an artificial hamburger based on a single meat molecule. How far away can hair be?). That day, the problem of hair transplant (the donor - recipient ratio) is solved and baldness is practically solved via massive hair transplants (think of 20.000 grafts per expensive but definitive session).

Dr. Lauster's team is able to create microfollicles. It's only a matter of time before they're able to create full sized terminal hair growing follicles.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

Dr. Lauster's team is able to create microfollicles. It's only a matter of time before they're able to create full sized terminal hair growing follicles.

RIKEN is probably going to have a commercialized product before he even gets to trials with anything.

 

[hellouser]

RIKEN is probably going to have a commercialized product before he even gets to trials with anything.

RIKEN is going to take 3+ years to go to trial (gut feeling).

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

RIKEN is going to take 3+ years to go to trial (gut feeling).

2020 at most.

 

[Breaking Bald]

Uhhh I don't even know why I started this thread it just makes me depressed. I'm so tired of this sh*t, always waiting, nothing ever comes to fruition...delays, set backs, bullshit, lies, snake oil. It's really hitting me hard at the moment and there is absolutely f*** all I can do about it. I hate the way I look, I wish I could just shave it off and be done with it. No one even understands the pain that we go through! My twenties have been destroyed by this bullshit. I can't bring myself to get a hairpiece, there's just too much stigma behind it. I can't stand to see photos of what my hair used to look like, I had such a big mane!

 

[buckthorn]

Walter... Mike...

 

[hellouser]

Walter... Mike...

Yeah b**ch, MAGNETS!

 

[distracted]

The research is all there. Between Tsuji, Malcom Xing, etc. the cure for hair loss exists, but these guys are taking forever to start trials. Why can't they just go to the Bahamas and start giving me hair! So frustrating. I do think that we are one of the last people to have to suffer through this. I imagine that is what everyone has told themselves though.

 

[paxis]

The research is all there. Between Tsuji, Malcom Xing, etc. the cure for hair loss exists, but these guys are taking forever to start trials. Why can't they just go to the Bahamas and start giving me hair! So frustrating. I do think that we are one of the last people to have to suffer through this. I imagine that is what everyone has told themselves though.

My thoughts exactly!

 

[buckthorn]

Yeah b**ch, MAGNETS!

perhaps this has been the answer all along Mike.. if large enough, perhaps they can reawaken dormant follicles. Who's up for it. :O

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Why does a new treatment need to be better than minoxidil if it uses a different pathway? They should just package it with minoxidil. Plus, minoxidil has a mediocre response rate.

 

[Roberto_72]

. I do think that we are one of the last people to have to suffer through this. I imagine that is what everyone has told themselves though.

It is funny because if you read posts from ten years ago, they all went "well of course in ten years this and this will be available..." Ten years sound like a looooong time but for the pharmaceutical industry, thanks to regulations that are a bit strict in the West (with these protocols, the smallpox vaccine would have never been invented), it is not.

So I do dig the new research but I really wonder if, based on past experience, we can hope in the "2020" mantra (there even is a site called hairlosscure2020 or something - I wonder what happens if on Dec 31 2020 people are still bald LOL).

I'll be honest: if I could sign for hair replication and restoration (at a reasonable price, as in 20,000 grafts replicated and implanted at $/€ 15,000/ 20,000) and the year was 2030, I would sign NOW. A good retirement package for me...

 

[hellouser]

It is funny because if you read posts from ten years ago, they all went "well of course in ten years this and this will be available..." Ten years sound like a looooong time but for the pharmaceutical industry, thanks to regulations that are a bit strict in the West (with these protocols, the smallpox vaccine would have never been invented), it is not.

So I do dig the new research but I really wonder if, based on past experience, we can hope in the "2020" mantra (there even is a site called hairlosscure2020 or something - I wonder what happens if on Dec 31 2020 people are still bald LOL).

I'll be honest: if I could sign for hair replication and restoration (at a reasonable price, as in 20,000 grafts replicated and implanted at $/€ 15,000/ 20,000) and the year was 2030, I would sign NOW. A good retirement package for me...

They're insanely strict. They want to check for safety on humans but they restrict the only way of doing so by actually testing on humans.

All the health governing bodies are just holding back progress. FDA is notoriously terrible in USA.

 

[mariagreen]

Closest thing is Histogen's phase III trials starting in Mexico in July. So hopefully by 2018 we can go there and get it. For the US the closest I believe is Follica in 2018 but that is only if the trial with an undisclosed compound they conduct in the second half of 2016 meets the standard they want. The read out for that trial's results will be in sometime 2017, and potential commercialization in 2018.

Can you please refer me to a source where you can read about the Histogen's? 10x

 

[Jeca Tatu]

Can you please refer me to a source where you can read about the Histogen's? 10x

There is plenty of material scattered through the forums, you can use the search and focus on the recent threads. Also, plenty of external links in those.

 

[mariagreen]

There is plenty of material scattered through the forums, you can use the search and focus on the recent threads. Also, plenty of external links in those.

Yes I have seen that there is a lot of information on
Thanks!

 

[BTW]

The only "hope" we have for now is Spironolactone+Tamoxifen. Guaranteed hair regrowth as far as it seems, you only have to risk your manhood for 6-7 months or something to get regrowth and the Tamoxifen will prevent b**ch tits.
Although I saw numerous guys at hospitals that took spironolactone for legit reasons (cirrhosis, ascites), usually doses below 100mg, their hairline was pretty bad, succesful cases from this forum usually had to go at least 100mg to see results

 

[kuba197]

Brotzu lotion.

 

[Dar]

Uhhh I don't even know why I started this thread it just makes me depressed. I'm so tired of this sh*t, always waiting, nothing ever comes to fruition...delays, set backs, bullshit, lies, snake oil. It's really hitting me hard at the moment and there is absolutely f*** all I can do about it. I hate the way I look, I wish I could just shave it off and be done with it. No one even understands the pain that we go through! My twenties have been destroyed by this bullshit. I can't bring myself to get a hairpiece, there's just too much stigma behind it. I can't stand to see photos of what my hair used to look like, I had such a big mane!

Sorry that its effecting your mental well being so much. Just remember almost everyone experiences some type of hairloss eventually..... So most people never have the hair of their youth into old age. I understand your only in your twenties (I had all my hair through my 20's , though it went through many stages of looking great and looking like crap and in my 30's noticed some thinning changes.) Now in my mid 40's sure its thinned but has slowed and I can still pull a full head of hair off.(most days) Plus i have taken care of my health and look much younger for my age.

You know you do get used to it at a point. You begin to realize that the older you get no one really gives a sh*t anymore and you won't care as much anymore as well. I find myself thinking that in ten or twenty years full head of hair or not I'm gonna have aged negatively in looks and internal health in so many other ways hair will probably be the last thing on my mind. Good luck and do your best to keep it in perspective.