It Is Not Always male pattern baldness. Don Not Fall In The Trap

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Hi,
I think it is important to tell my story hair. I am 24 and I was loosing too many hairs. I thought it is definitely baldness (no one suffers from male pattern baldness in my family) and thus I went to doctor. My first doctor told me that i am suffering from Telogen Effevelium, which is temporary hair loss. I had lost 12 Kgs in 3 months through dieting and i had heavy vitamin D3 deficiency. She gave me Minxodil for stopping my worry and also for making my other hairs better. I was still having more hair loss (i didnt know it can happen due to Minoxidil itself!) So, i went to another doctor for secondary advice. He put me on male pattern baldness regime and gave me propecia. I took it for one day and my thing was very sensitive to this. No erection whole damn day! I stopped it immediately. Still it took 1.5 months to get my same erection and i took it just once in life.
Thankfully, My D3 deficiency went away in 3 months but hair fall still persisted. I was again worried and went to my first doctor itself. She told me not to worry. My hairs are losing but that is high regrowth rate of minoxidil. It gave me very good hairs. She said not to stop it- not because i have male pattern baldness but because some follies are activated and why not have hairs like you are 16 ;)
The main central argument of whole story is- In male pattern baldness, there is a definite region (temple, crown or hairline) which have patches/ or recedes or general hairloss from a particular area. In case of other like Alopecia Areata or Talogen Effoveleum- It is GENERAL HAIR LOSS FROM EVERYWHERE and thinning as a whole. Best test fro this is- put fingers in your hair and comb using fingers. if you loose hair from different parts of scalp- it is probably not male pattern baldness. Why am i saying this?- Because some people take Propecia or fall in hands of wrong capitalist doctors and get trapped in financial and sexual burden. Stay Safe!
 

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Why am i saying this?- Because some people take Propecia or fall in hands of wrong capitalist doctors and get trapped in financial and sexual burden. Stay Safe!

Bruh generic 5 mg finasteride costs like $8 for 3-4 months worth
 

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Yeah and irrespective of medical reports and publications, the number of side effects and no of people suffering from them are too high. Its never the same erection no matter who takes finasteride. If it blocks DHT, erection will get lower though some get lesser effect some more, some temporary some permanent. But it is not worth it. and Testosterone is not just for sex- it is a very important hormone for neurological processes. It is also important for autoimmune processes. It also safeguards male from stress, anxiety and psychological problems. All in all, those testicles have too much work to do than just throwing away the hairs.
Anyway, its is not the point. The point is when you dont have the disorder and still take the medicine- for pharmacies and doctor to make money- is extremely stupid
 
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Yeah and irrespective of medical reports and publications, the number of side effects and no of people suffering from them are too high. Its never the same erection no matter who takes finasteride. If it blocks DHT, erection will get lower though some get lesser effect some more, some temporary some permanent. But it is not worth it. and Testosterone is not just for sex- it is a very important hormone for neurological processes. It is also important for autoimmune processes. It also safeguards male from stress, anxiety and psychological problems. All in all, those testicles have too much work to do than just throwing away the hairs.
Anyway, its is not the point. The point is when you dont have the disorder and still take the medicine- for pharmacies and doctor to make money- is extremely stupid

Did finasteride give you brain damage too?
 

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Stick with topical minoxidil then. Have you gotten good results or improved hair resistance? You can also try topical finasteride but I doubt it's nearly as effective as oral finasteride.
 

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Did you grew your hair back yet? Waiting for the result, because my story is very similar to yours(Diffuse thinning all over the scalp + No family history of balding in 3 generations), Propecia didn't seems to do anything for me(But still taking it because it actually reversed my mature hairline I got since high school), but reduced anxiety and depression also reduced my hairloss, anxiety also causing extreme scalp itching for me... My dermatologist diagnosed me as MBP just because there are miniaturization, but from what I heard from another Dr, miniaturization could happen any time when you loss hair, it's just part of hair regrowth process, and we all have 20% miniaturized hair, no matter if you are balding or not.
 
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Hey wintop. I have gotten full regrowth in first 3 months on my using minoxidil and vitamin D3 pills itself. honestly i never had any bald patch so can't say much on that but there is definite increase in density and i have no hairfall now. Miniature growth is usually associated with male pattern baldness but it is not always so. My doctor told this- I suffered from chronic depression in past and have taken heavy medicine. Then i went for crash diet for 3 months to loose weight. This way i was already weak. and add acute vitamin D3 deficiency to that. In this case or any other external stress related factor, hairs definitely get week. The reason for hairfall in case of telogen effevelium is weakness itself. that is cycle of hair fall gets shorter, hair gets week etc. So,hair thinning is obvious in these cases. But if hair thinning is in specific area such as crown or top etc or receding hairline, only then it can be male pattern baldness. male pattern baldness is mostly hereditary. In other cases, alopecia arreata is more common

I really suggest you go for some more experienced doctor for advice. It is not worth to take medicine when you dont have the disease especially such medicines! Take care!
 

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Hey wintop. I have gotten full regrowth in first 3 months on my using minoxidil and vitamin D3 pills itself. honestly i never had any bald patch so can't say much on that but there is definite increase in density and i have no hairfall now. Miniature growth is usually associated with male pattern baldness but it is not always so. My doctor told this- I suffered from chronic depression in past and have taken heavy medicine. Then i went for crash diet for 3 months to loose weight. This way i was already weak. and add acute vitamin D3 deficiency to that. In this case or any other external stress related factor, hairs definitely get week. The reason for hairfall in case of telogen effevelium is weakness itself. that is cycle of hair fall gets shorter, hair gets week etc. So,hair thinning is obvious in these cases. But if hair thinning is in specific area such as crown or top etc or receding hairline, only then it can be male pattern baldness. male pattern baldness is mostly hereditary. In other cases, alopecia arreata is more common

I really suggest you go for some more experienced doctor for advice. It is not worth to take medicine when you dont have the disease especially such medicines! Take care!

I managed to regrow my hair in around 1.5 month after I took my lifestyle and mental health seriously, even my hair dresser surprised by how much my hair grew, it's really rare that Finasteride will regrow hair in this short of time right? Maybe minoxidil is accelerating this process. Thanks for your reply, I will definitely consult with another doctor, wish you the best luck.
 
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minoxidil and/or finas is not suitable for telogen effluvium, and neither as a preventive method of common baldness.

Before any treatment is advisable konw very well what is our problem? Hairloss due stress is temporary and reversible.
 

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minoxidil and/or finas is not suitable for telogen effluvium, and neither as a preventive method of common baldness.

Before any treatment is advisable konw very well what is our problem? Hairloss due stress is temporary and reversible.

Minoxidil in theory can treat any type of alopecia, I've seen plastic surgeon recommend minoxidil on hairline after browlift. But finasteride must take with caution.
 

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I managed to regrow my hair in around 1.5 month after I took my lifestyle and mental health seriously, even my hair dresser surprised by how much my hair grew, it's really rare that Finasteride will regrow hair in this short of time right? Maybe minoxidil is accelerating this process. Thanks for your reply, I will definitely consult with another doctor, wish you the best luck.
Minoxidil is usually given to anyone who suffers from any rapid Hair loss. There are multiple reasons. One is Telogen+male pattern baldness which means you are bald within very short time. Other is the weakness which has made hairs thin, and many hair follicles dormant. There are other reasons too. Other is to give them instant strength so that you dont live in anxiety of losing them (and thus losing them more). Take Minoxidil for 6 months twice a day and then once a day for next 6 months. After that you can keep using or stop. I stopped, it didn't effect much. i went back to may normal hairs ie. lost all artificial minoxidil induced ones in 3-4 months. But nothing baldness, just my natural hairs. But i restarted using it to have same density and also its worth cost with no side effects. Again, meet doctors. No one knows better. I still go once in 6 months. That trauma of loosing hair never went away from me :D Finastride doesn't work so fast on regrowth. Minoxidil can but mostly it also doesnt work so fast among male pattern baldness people. Others on forum will be more helpful on this. If i look back though, i would have preffered using some natural or some Indian Ayurvedic Hair Oils but i didn't know what i had at that time. So, it was still i guess the right decision to take minoxidil
 
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mirin retardness
 

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Minoxidil in theory can treat any type of alopecia, I've seen plastic surgeon recommend minoxidil on hairline after browlift. But finasteride must take with caution.

maybe for eyebrows, but don't for telogen effluvium.

minoxidil must be used forlife, acording to the manufacturers
 
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Minoxidil definitely must be used for life. Thing is even if you don't have male pattern baldness or for that matter any hair loss disease, you still will never see the same person having same density at age of 35 compared to say 17. Once I used minoxidil I felt like I have 17 yo hair and then once you stop you don't want the 17 yo ones to end never ever.
Honestly speaking, I am getting married 2 years from now at age of 27 and after that I personally do not give a f*** about hairs. I have a 8 years long relationship. My fiance cannot care less
 

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Minoxidil definitely must be used for life. Thing is even if you don't have male pattern baldness or for that matter any hair loss disease, you still will never see the same person having same density at age of 35 compared to say 17. Once I used minoxidil I felt like I have 17 yo hair and then once you stop you don't want the 17 yo ones to end never ever.
Honestly speaking, I am getting married 2 years from now at age of 27 and after that I personally do not give a f*** about hairs. I have a 8 years long relationship. My fiance cannot care less

Stop using minoxidil, let yourself go bald and see how long it takes your fiance to f*** one of your norwood 1 friends and leave you. My bet is 8 months.
 

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Stop using minoxidil, let yourself go bald and see how long it takes your fiance to f*** one of your norwood 1 friends and leave you. My bet is 8 months.
Lol! According to you, all guys who get bald are either divorced or single or dead. male pattern baldness is genetic. I wonder how you got born then
 

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Lol! According to you, all guys who get bald are either divorced or single or dead. male pattern baldness is genetic. I wonder how you got born then

The very fact that MBP is genetic is contradicting with his argument. Or maybe we mate before we go bald?
 
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