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ironix

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Did fidia ever say that they will make an 6 month trial?

I can imagine that they planed a shorter trial and therefore wanted to give us informations after summer holidays but then the results where eighter not as good as they thought and therefore they expanded the trials to see what they have after 6 months or they where so good that they want to keep them a secret until they finish the paper work and are ready to sell the lotion.
 

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January 2nd is nothing - it's just another arbitrary date (er "after the new year") people made up for when Fidia might announce something since their rep said "after the holidays", which was initially thought to be summer, but keeps getting pushed back.

What rep said it would be after the summer holidays? Can you provide a link to this statement and back up your claim?
 

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Why you reported him? He is right in many things. My father died from heart failure one month ago just like many others, so stop crying how is the end of the world if you don’t have hair. There are far more important things in life. What should say people with heart failure, liver failure, cancer? Yes, it is very good to have nice hair, but I will not kill myself or be in depresion just because I don’t have a hair. It is pathetic.

Because he's being a dick. You, whose father died, knows there is no point in coming here harassing a user we all like and sh*t on everyone's widely held understanding of the facts. He's not adding anything good, that's why he was reported.

Please pay a little more attention before you come to the defence of an a**h**.
 

worm

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What rep said it would be after the summer holidays? Can you provide a link to this statement and back up your claim?

I remember that, however I seem to recall it was heresay, nothing official. I do believe the trial/study did in fact finish at the end of the summer, since then I believe they dessiminated the results and waited until this company conference to issue the results. Whatever time they chose to do that, I'm sure has no impact on when they plan to release the lotion. I'm sure there is lots going on in the background we have no clue about and is none of our business.
 

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Because you haven’t experienced something worst in your life. That’s why most of you are pathetic. Find a nice job or start business and make a lot of money and all chicks will love you then. Nobody will care about your hair then.

World have far worst things to handle than our hairs. If you go in hospital and live with young people with heart failure who can’t walk even 100 meters how much often you will think about your hair? I see daily young dudes who have hairloss to some degree and most of them have jobs, chicks, social life. So, probably it is not everything about hair. It is probably most of you don’t know how to live properly.

It's a lot easier said than done for me to accept my hair loss. I understand that there are millions below me on whatever metaphorical ladder you wanna think of but how does their pain lessen mine? A single mother losing her job has every right to hate her situation even if she's never had to hide from a fascist regime that was trying to exterminate her people. Or if she didn't have to survive in a pre historic nomadic tribe running from predators. **Suffering is suffering, there is no objective scale to quantify it.**

Now on top of that, people on this forums come from all walks of life. You simply don't know what everyone here is going through. There is more at play than just hair loss. This includes self image issues, self worth, confidence, and so much more. And those are only things that hair loss directly affects. I imagine that others on this thread have other problems not related to their hair loss, but their suffering is now multiplied due to Alopecia.

I know people who go to therapy about this stuff. And you know what therapists say? Do you know what educated professionals say when they help someone struggling with accepting Alopecia? Here'a a clue, it's not at all anything what you say. Your advice is absolutely terrible and that's because you have no clue how subjective struggles work. Therapists will work with their patients and understand why this is painful for them. What specifically they do, is specific to the patient. However, No qualified therapist will tell anyone that "look at least you don't have heart disease" because that's literally the worst advice you can give to a human being when they are struggling. STOP UNDERMINING PEOPLE'S PERSONAL STRUGGLES.

So to conclude:

1) Suffering is suffering. There is no objective scale to quantify it.

2) People on this forumn are guess what PEOPLE. They have so much going on in their life that you don't know about.

3) Educated professionals in therapy will never apply your terrible advice of "look on the bright side", because your advice stems from ignorance of how to help people with struggles. I don't blame you for being ignorant, I blame you for thinking you are credible and have authority when it comes to this.

Now instead of turning this into a thread where we undermine other people's struggles, let's get back on the discussion of a potential hair loss solution.

To all my balding brothers and sisters,

You do not need to feel shame for your suffering. There is no concrete list of things you are "allowed to suffer from" as the assholes who are brigading this thread want you to believe. If you are suffering, you are suffering. That's all that matters. Be strong. Be brave. And never listen to people who put you down for suffering.

Hang in there, guys. Like I said before, whether this product works or not, you guys had solid reason to have faith in this. There's good reason to be at least a little optimistic.
 

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I remember that, however I seem to recall it was heresay, nothing official. I do believe the trial/study did in fact finish at the end of the summer, since then I believe they dessiminated the results and waited until this company conference to issue the results. Whatever time they chose to do that, I'm sure has no impact on when they plan to release the lotion. I'm sure there is lots going on in the background we have no clue about and is none of our business.

So you don't believe the trials are still going like beps23 claimed? and what company conference are you referring to?

And I like that last line of yours. There is probably so much going on in the background that we simply don't know about.
 

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So you don't believe the trials are still going like beps23 claimed? and what company conference are you referring to?

And I like that last line of yours. There is probably so much going on in the background that we simply don't know about.

I do believe they are conducting trials. There was the AA trial, which I understood finished after the summer, and the current one ongoing for Androgenetic Alopecia. This wasnt really directed toward you, but my main point was that I just dont think they were in any rush to publish the results the day after they finished the study.

Some people here seem to think because Fidia are slow to report the results, means they are full of crap or arent getting good results, which therefore means this lotion doesnt work. Im no scientist, but I do know that it takes time for researchers to interpret the results properly, afterwards you need to select a venue to present them which also takes time. I also believe that Brotzu is telling the truth that the Androgenetic Alopecia study finishes this month. That said, like the AA results published, I dont think we'll hear anything before at least February. Of course I wish and hope we know more sooner, but until then I'll keep checking this site every 10 mins :)
 

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I do believe they are conducting trials. There was the AA trial, which I understood finished after the summer, and the current one ongoing for Androgenetic Alopecia. This wasnt really directed toward you, but my main point was that I just dont think they were in any rush to publish the results the day after they finished the study.

Some people here seem to think because Fidia are slow to report the results, means they are full of crap or arent getting good results, which therefore means this lotion doesnt work. Im no scientist, but I do know that it takes time for researchers to interpret the results properly, afterwards you need to select a venue to present them which also takes time. I also believe that Brotzu is telling the truth that the Androgenetic Alopecia study finishes this month. That said, like the AA results published, I dont think we'll hear anything before at least February. Of course I wish and hope we know more sooner, but until then I'll keep checking this site every 10 mins :)

Also how often is the DR this vocal about the product...If he was not talking at all this year we would not know anything...They are a self contained company so its not like they are seducing investors as they go along like most of these other treatments.
 

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I'm mildly amused by all the hearsay, speculation, and commiseration, but I don't blame anyone -- I'm as eager as anyone. I check this thread 1-2x a day, but it's generally the same each time... I'd say I'd come back and check in 3 months from now, but we all know that would be a lie : )
 

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I do believe they are conducting trials. There was the AA trial, which I understood finished after the summer, and the current one ongoing for Androgenetic Alopecia. This wasnt really directed toward you, but my main point was that I just dont think they were in any rush to publish the results the day after they finished the study.

Some people here seem to think because Fidia are slow to report the results, means they are full of crap or arent getting good results, which therefore means this lotion doesnt work. Im no scientist, but I do know that it takes time for researchers to interpret the results properly, afterwards you need to select a venue to present them which also takes time. I also believe that Brotzu is telling the truth that the Androgenetic Alopecia study finishes this month. That said, like the AA results published, I dont think we'll hear anything before at least February. Of course I wish and hope we know more sooner, but until then I'll keep checking this site every 10 mins :)

Yeah if I'm being honest, I still don't see an announcement being made soon. January 2nd for an announcement sounds too optimistic. After concluding their study, I'm assuming there's gotta be some other things they have to do.
 

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Yeah if I'm being honest, I still don't see an announcement being made soon. January 2nd for an announcement sounds too optimistic. After concluding their study, I'm assuming there's gotta be some other things they have to do.

i threw out January 2nd as an arbitrary date...Please lets not all latch onto it and make it a 'date' and a rumor.
 

AnArcticTaco

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i threw out January 2nd as an arbitrary date...Please lets not all latch onto it and make it a 'date' and a rumor.

I understand. I brought it up because you said "if we don't hear anything until january 2nd THEN we can panic."

I wanted to point out that I don't believe we should panic if come January 2nd and there is no news.
 

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January 2nd is nothing - it's just another arbitrary date (er "after the new year") people made up for when Fidia might announce something since their rep said "after the holidays", which was initially thought to be summer, but keeps getting pushed back.

I was just a little confused why 2nd and not 1st ;) But ye, I get it now.
 

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You don't see no announcement on 2 January. No announcement on February and all of you know that. You don't have information that fidia will make announcement. All are just your fantasy
No f*****g sh*t son, but an announcement around Jan or Feb would make sense.
Wish I could somehow ban you from receiving the lotion when this comes out
 

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Question regarding Brotzu lotion and future treatments on the horizon. I'm only 22 and very early stages of hairloss. I'm very new to these treatments but have been reading a lot online. My question is with these future treats (brotzu, follica, histogen, and replicel), is it the best time "2016" for hair loss people or is this what has been happening for the last 20-30 years with lots of false hope. I personally am in the medical field and i know technology is advancing so much. I guess to put things short, is this the most promising future for hair loss (2016), or are all these future treatments just what the hair loss community is used to seeing with lots of false hope? Thanks a lot for any responses.

Sadly, the history of cures in common alopecia is lost in time. For thousands of years, a cure has been attempted without success.
 

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Sadly, the history of cures in common alopecia is lost in time. For thousands of years, a cure has been attempted without success.

Ive come to recognize your posts, you should think about changing your screen name to "Mr. Positive". ;)
 

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Now that Donald Trump is president, we should petition him to make having hair on the head a basic human right. I am sure he can relate to us.
In this case, maybe we can make him put pressure on the Italian government to make fidia release the lotion sooner. :p
instead he will say something like that :
if fidia won't produce their lotion in the US we will ban it from our country
 
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