Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[Armando Jose]

He posted photos of his test lotion in the Italian forum. I think they are also in this thread. Happy searching.

https://postimg.org/image/ms4v3c97f/

 

[Drogedagh]

Jole posted something on fb. Sadly my Italian is not good enough and google translate makes no sense neither in French, English or German. Is it good news?

Could you post a screenshot?

 

[Grasshüpfer]

I obscured the name so I guess it's ok.

 

[Headdy]

Google translate:

Not só if it will be the last time But I can assure you that after 6 months ago pretty bad. These maybe my shares, to some, may annoy! But I can assure you that for others like me, however, I can give comfort Because we are not alone, we are not "the US!" Then there is hope ... We hope it will soon be on the market a good day! Ps. Jole and his Alopecia have much to tell Maybe become a story to write

 

[IggyPop]

Hard to say, but looks like her hair got pretty bad in the last 6 months (look the picture).......Did she use the lotion?

 

[Headdy]

It says "after 6 months ago", so I guess it means before she started using the lotion?
Or maybe not...

 

[Xenithrising]

Is she saying that this was from 6 months ago?
Hard to understand

 

[That Guy]

Here's what I get from creeping her page, reading that post and ones back a couple of months:

She shaves her head. One picture from October is labeled "2 months without shaving". In the comments of that picture, someone asked if that photo was from a year ago. She said no and showed a picture from a year before, which showed significantly less hair. She also commented on how well children in Brotzu's trial respond to the lotion and fast. Right after that picture Headdy shared, there is one of her with shaving cream on her head. At one point, she says she does not care if her hair grows back, but that she does this for her son because he is in danger of getting AA.

My deduction is that after at least a year of use, she does not have enough hair to grow it all out and have it look aesthetically pleasing, so she shaves it. I'm not sure whether it's still consistently getting better or if it has reached peak efficacy for her. Either way, she speaks positively of the lotion and says that she hopes it will be out on the market soon instead of being "under the seat of the company"

 

[hairblues]

Here's what I get from creeping her page, reading that post and ones back a couple of months:

She shaves her head. One picture from October is labeled "2 months without shaving". In the comments of that picture, someone asked if that photo was from a year ago. She said no and showed a picture from a year before, which showed significantly less hair. She also commented on how well children in Brotzu's trial respond to the lotion and fast. Right after that picture Headdy shared, there is one of her with shaving cream on her head. At one point, she says she does not care if her hair grows back, but that she does this for her son because he is in danger of getting AA.

My deduction is that after at least a year of use, she does not have enough hair to grow it all out and have it look aesthetically pleasing, so she shaves it. I'm not sure whether it's still consistently getting better or if it has reached peak efficacy for her. Either way, she speaks positively of the lotion and says that she hopes it will be out on the market soon instead of being "under the seat of the company"

wait are you talking about the Italian Woman?

I saw those pics from a while ago...she like most AA people shaves her head she was not slick bald probably huge patches.

 

[That Guy]

wait are you talking about the Italian Woman?

I saw those pics from a while ago...she like most AA people shaves her head she was not slick bald probably huge patches.

Yeah and it seems they've gotten better over the last year, but still a far cry from a full recovery.

Really tough to say what she means by "I just don't know if it will be for the last time." I would think she means "last time I shave my head", but who knows. Kinda sounds like it could be hope or could be giving up.

Need native Italian speakers lol

 

[hairblues]

Yeah and it seems they've gotten better over the last year, but still a far cry from a full recovery.

Really tough to say what she means by "I just don't know if it will be for the last time." I would think she means "last time I shave my head", but who knows. Kinda sounds like it could be hope or could be giving up.

Need native Italian speakers lol

that pic the hair is jet black--thought she was more blondish. I don't know i can not find the pics on her page just her obviously shaved bald and all art work--pages and pages of art work.

 

[Joxy]

It's a lot easier said than done for me to accept my hair loss. I understand that there are millions below me on whatever metaphorical ladder you wanna think of but how does their pain lessen mine? A single mother losing her job has every right to hate her situation even if she's never had to hide from a fascist regime that was trying to exterminate her people. Or if she didn't have to survive in a pre historic nomadic tribe running from predators. **Suffering is suffering, there is no objective scale to quantify it.**

Now on top of that, people on this forums come from all walks of life. You simply don't know what everyone here is going through. There is more at play than just hair loss. This includes self image issues, self worth, confidence, and so much more. And those are only things that hair loss directly affects. I imagine that others on this thread have other problems not related to their hair loss, but their suffering is now multiplied due to Alopecia.

I know people who go to therapy about this stuff. And you know what therapists say? Do you know what educated professionals say when they help someone struggling with accepting Alopecia? Here'a a clue, it's not at all anything what you say. Your advice is absolutely terrible and that's because you have no clue how subjective struggles work. Therapists will work with their patients and understand why this is painful for them. What specifically they do, is specific to the patient. However, No qualified therapist will tell anyone that "look at least you don't have heart disease" because that's literally the worst advice you can give to a human being when they are struggling. STOP UNDERMINING PEOPLE'S PERSONAL STRUGGLES.

So to conclude:

1) Suffering is suffering. There is no objective scale to quantify it.

2) People on this forumn are guess what PEOPLE. They have so much going on in their life that you don't know about.

3) Educated professionals in therapy will never apply your terrible advice of "look on the bright side", because your advice stems from ignorance of how to help people with struggles. I don't blame you for being ignorant, I blame you for thinking you are credible and have authority when it comes to this.

Now instead of turning this into a thread where we undermine other people's struggles, let's get back on the discussion of a potential hair loss solution.

To all my balding brothers and sisters,

You do not need to feel shame for your suffering. There is no concrete list of things you are "allowed to suffer from" as the assholes who are brigading this thread want you to believe. If you are suffering, you are suffering. That's all that matters. Be strong. Be brave. And never listen to people who put you down for suffering.

Hang in there, guys. Like I said before, whether this product works or not, you guys had solid reason to have faith in this. There's good reason to be at least a little optimistic.

Bla, bla, bla...

It is pathetic my friend. I already told you. Come on one day with me in some clinical to see young people, children, older people with heart failure who can’t even walk 15 meters, or people with cancer, liver failure and other very serious conditions. Everyone wants nice hairstyle. Yes, its improve your social life, girls like people with nice hair and bla, bla, bla, but most of you guys will still have pathetic life even with nice hair. I see daily people with bad hairloss and they have nice social life, good girlfriends, nice jobs, money. Hair not stop you to be successful.

I like to have nice hair, but I am not gonna cry like b**ch all day or be pathetic. There are far more important things in life than hair. I will do anything to back my father and hug him again. Hair is last thing in my mind right now.

 

[hairblues]

here is post from Italian womans page

Nov 29th
Well I also write here:
" return from the visit.. the kids hair and the hair follicles are constantly on the rise! Now I really hope the fidia to put on the lotion asap! Otherwise organize sit-in under the seat of the company... maybe port with me about 3000 people-to-head barefoot... I swear!! and who knows me knows that I do!" night
PS: in the photos, one click fresh... and one of a year ago... without ever razor! Notice the difference?

she showed a photo of i would say completely bald from 1 year earlier and the present photo about 30% of her hair growing in hard to tell..I think she shaved it within past week or so..Im going to assume because her art work was being exhibited a lot that she shaved it to have a 'clean' head as opposed to wearing wigs...She was in a lot of press coverage for her art work..She made a comment about not wanting to wear wig in the comments to someone.

someone commented Nov 29th photo
"This morning, such a beautiful gift, I sn excited and I cried you know why. Come on
and Italian woman replied
Soon it will be in the drug trade

❤ luv

 

[hairblues]

Well f*** if she wants to do a sit in at Fidia i am in LOL Trip to Italy!!

 

[Grasshüpfer]

How I understood it, she regularly shaves her head. She evaluates how well the lotion works on how much hair she has in the sink after shaving. So more hair in the sink = good.

Then she basically apologises for posting the photo to her full head friends. She sais it might be the last time she posts news about her hair. => Because the lotion is immanent maybe? Because she further goes on how the posts about her hair give hope to so many people (oh yes! ..) and that we are not alone in this.

That's what I understand. French google translate made the most sense. Doesn't Pas speak Italian? (@Pasbrillantebrunette )

 

[hairblues]

How I understood it, she regularly shaves her head. She evaluates how well the lotion works on how much hair she has in the sink after shaving. So more hair in the sink = good.

Then she basically apologises for posting the photo to her full head friends. She sais it might be the last time she posts news about her hair. => Because the lotion is immanent maybe? Because she further goes on how the posts about her hair give hope to so many people (oh yes! ..) and that we are not alone in this.

That's what I understand. French google translate made the most sense. Doesn't Pas speak Italian? (@Pasbrillantebrunette )

It seems from what i read and saw in photos and the chronological order of her posts that the lotion for her is working very slow but steady compared to the children who are having quick results.

I think from her postings its hard to grow out the hair because it does not look good until fully grown so she shaves but it think shes sticking with the lotion as a 'guinea pig' to help others including children sounds like she is even concnered if this happened to her son one day.

I think shaving the hair is emotional so she expressed her emotions.

Her hair comes in but it's not enough for her to wear without a wig. It looks better shaved and probably feels better to shave for now.

She is in public eye to some extent due to her art work she is in press a lot with her art work so she is probably more comfortable to wear her hair shaved for now.

 

[hairblues]

So now I understand why Fidia don't want to show results of trials, because results are very bad. If lotion don't help for as, how this lotion will help to us? Our alopecia is much aggressive

Its not more aggressive they both work very differently.

Apples and oranges.

And its actually working as he said it does in Areata IF you actually READ his articles he said for AA that for children it works the best, for people under 25 it works very good--older than that not as well.

this woman we are talking about is about 40-45.

That it works at all for her is impressive to be honest.

The children grew back full heads of hair

Don't be lazy there are plenty of photos of the kids go dig around this thread instead of just barking bullshit.

 

[hairblues]

@alexfighter its kind of odd that your only posts so far are in this thread yet you believe its utter sh*t.

Do you often pay so much attention to things you consider to be sh*t?

 

[hairblues]

I hope that this will work good. because I only start balding so I have chance to have good hair for long time. Problem is that we don't have any news besides bad news.. and a troll beps. So we have nothing. We don't know that trials of fidia will end on January.. this is only words of beps.. So we have nothing.

Correct we don know anything other than the facts that are in the thread buried.

I would not wait on this if that is what you are doing.


As for AA no the follicle does not die--but it does not matter some people lose all their hair for many years some whole life without regrowth.
Some lose eyebrows and eye lashes as well as hair even body hair.
And it can go super fast like months weeks even days. At any age.

Its not a good disease it also can f*** up their nails awful, some have vitiligo. many have other illnesses due to autoimmune.

Nothing works well for them except temporary very toxic drugs.

we at least have minoxidil and anti androgen.

 

[Grasshüpfer]

I hope that this will work good. because I only start balding so I have chance to have good hair for long time.

If you just started balding, get on some kind of anti androgen treatment NOW. With your positive attitude you don't want to realize you waited too long.