Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[ironix]

Wow that was a rollercoaster now. Checking back after a day and there were 5 new pages since yesterday and i was like: "holy sh*t the results are out" just to realise okey no just 5 new pages of useless informations -.^

 

[Janks16]

Yep, we're still at the point where nothing has been fact-checked. Nobody knows anything. We just have to wait.

 

[Stupidon]

Except that's how it often does.

Bring me 3 comparable cases and then we can talk. And I'm in a better position than you to judge this.

and this will change that 80% because...? Buddy, it took 3 doctors before one told me about Propecia and when I googled "Losing hair, what to do" there was never any mention of finasteride. Just "lift weights!" and "just shave it bro!" and "baldness isn't a disease and doesn't need a cure."

Exaggeration is always good to read.

I've never in my life seen an ad for Propecia and I've only heard of Rogaine by word of mouth and seeing it on shelves. I've never heard of FIDIA before this forum and they don't seem to pour anything into the advertising budget of any of their other products. I'd be shocked if this product is marketed outside of Europe in any form other than people telling each other about it.

Basically, Fidia has some sales who will reach out to the Derm and pharma, that's how it works. You can't advertise medecine like propecia and it doesn't make any sense to do so. Since Fidia has an US branch, you can expect this to be marketed outside of Europe.
You can't hear about such companies if you don't have a deep interest in a certain area.

I have seen only a handful of media even mention the Kyocera/Riken deal.

You didn't check the Japanese news. And at this development point, what else would you expect?

No idea what you're talking about given that I wasn't talking about Androgenetic Alopecia in the part you quoted

They won't be real competitors, not same price, clients, cosmetic vs. drug, and Jak will be only marketed in the US for a while I guess.

Yeah, but none of them are for re-growing it.

Sure

Which supports my case

I never said we are not on the same page on this point.

I wasn't talking about their trials.

This policy covers everything.

Look, I'm optimistic about this lotion too, but people need to stay grounded in reality about it. Just because it works doesn't guarantee it goes to market, I doubt Oprah will talk about it, the news probably won't report on it, you probably won't see ads for it and it probably isn't going to spark a revolution.

That's usually the contrary. You don't know whether it will work or not and this is being realistic. This product won't need much to be profitable.

 

[That Guy]

Bring me 3 comparable cases and then we can talk. And I'm in a better position than you to judge this.

You're in such a good position to judge this, you're actually saying that companies don't not follow through on patents.

I can give you more than 3 cases, just look up the patent filings for any major company developing anything ever

As I've pointed out on these forums many times, Aderan's treatment did not achieve the result they wanted, but it did stop further loss. They could have profited from that alone, but they stopped funding it and just make wigs now...

Exaggeration is always good to read.

There is not a f*****g iota of exaggeration there. It's insulting you'd claim that.

Basically, Fidia has some sales who will reach out to the Derm and pharma, that's how it works. You can't advertise medecine like propecia and it doesn't make any sense to do so. Since Fidia has an US branch, you can expect this to be marketed outside of Europe.
You can't hear about such companies if you don't have a deep interest in a certain area.

Yeah, see...explain to me how this is supposed to spark the hair loss revolution like some posters feel it will?

You didn't check the Japanese news. And at this development point, what else would you expect?

I would expect to hear more because the technology behind it is easily the most significant advancement in hairloss ever. L'Oreal got way more coverage from a procedure that haven't even done in so much as a mouse yet.

They won't be real competitors, not same price, clients, cosmetic vs. drug, and Jak will be only marketed in the US for a while I guess.

The point is that FIDIA is not peerless

Sure

Yeah, I went through this at the request of another user a few weeks back. All of that sh*t is amino acid and vitamins and I've never seen any of it on shelves. It's useless and you find it only if you go looking for it.

I never said we are not on the same page on this point.

More on this in a second

This policy covers everything.

Wut? I'm saying that if their is no announcement regarding the product in a few months, it's likely we won't hear anything at all.

That's usually the contrary. You don't know whether it will work or not and this is being realistic. This product won't need much to be profitable.

There is no question at this point that the lotion works. Have you bothered to read the original study on it, the patent, Brotzu's presentation, the testimony of a woman actually being a guinea pig for the lotion, etc. The question is how well it works and when or if it will be released.

You keep seeming to disagree with my assertion that even if the lotion is effective, it doesn't guarantee they will produce it, yet you keep arguing with points that agree with exactly this while at once saying "it won't take much for this to be profitable"...There could be any number of reasons behind the scenes that they may decide it's not worth it; we don't know.

Which is why all we can do, is wait and see and follow what little information we have.

 

[That Guy]

@That Guy in fairness, the companies that hold patents do so to prevent competitors from innovating. If this lotion gave you the most hydrated vag in the world, then the argument that they'd hold the patent and not release a product for it is more understandable. But Fidia has no foot in the hair loss door, so it makes no sense for them to do so, unless their entire administration is run by people with scarring alopecia hell-bent on preventing advancements in hair loss treatment.

True

 

[MrJolly16]

Sorry, but what does this expression mean?

fra 10 gg fine trials, fonte beps.

http://www.ieson.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=66178&whichpage=175

 

[Axel1der]

in 10 days the trials will end

 

[IggyPop]

in 10 days the trials will end

Source:Beps

 

[br1]

Source:Beps

 

[Axel1der]

I only translate that, i'm italian. I don't know if this info is good or not

 

[paxis]

10 days?

f*** I am so hyped again

I hope its true..

 

[That Guy]

I wouldn't get too hyped since it is one user, not Beps, but some guy called "lama" who claims it will in end in 10 days and says Beps is the source

 

[AnArcticTaco]

Even if it does end in 10 days, I wouldn't expect an announcement until February. But if I'm being honest, I'm talking out of my *** and have no basis for this! I'm just not sure how long a pharmaceutical company waits between finishing trials and announcing results or the product. I just expect that it takes some time to "process" their findings and then construct a game plan on marketing, but I'd also expect them to have that sh*t figured out already. Sooooo now that I think about it i have no clue at all what the future holds for this lotion haha

But I'm excited to say the least. I hope this lotion works out!

 

[Drogedagh]

It's time to call @beps63. Is it true about trials ending in 10 days?

 

[IggyPop]

One guys results from that Italian community brew of the lotion based on the patent ingredients seem to show some effectiveness if it's legitimate.
He says he's 37 and has been losing for 18 years.
http://imgur.com/a/vy4L0

His frontal area appears thinner (lighter?).

 

[AnArcticTaco]

His frontal area appears thinner (lighter?).

Personally the frontal area doesn't seem any thinner to me. But you can see the improvement in the central area and the crown. I think maybe it's because the frontal area appears even more thinner than the central area, so that's why it looks like its thinner than before?

 

[MrJolly16]

in 10 days the trials will end

Thank you very much for the translation! Hope that guy is telling us the truth, but the only one who can confirm us that is @beps63. Is that true? Will the trials end then? Just ten more days?

 

[IggyPop]

Personally the frontal area doesn't seem any thinner to me. But you can see the improvement in the central area and the crown. I think maybe it's because the frontal area appears even more thinner than the central area, so that's why it looks like its thinner than before?

Sure, I can see thickening of crown and mid area, that´s why I think it is so strange that the frontal area appears lighter.

 

[paxis]

If peope want to really prove something they should really start taking pictures with the same hair length..

I am not sure if there is any regrowth at all. But seems like he regrew at least a bit. His scalp looks weird tho, why is it so reddish and on some spots so white?

 

[Axel1der]

Thank you very much for the translation! Hope that guy is telling us the truth, but the only one who can confirm us that is @beps63. Is that true? Will the trials end then? Just ten more days?

I think so, I hope before christmas we all know something new about the lotion's potential