Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

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Thank you very much @The 7TH Sense, can you please translate Max Power´s posts in the Italian forum?

In realtà ci sarebbero delle info abbastanza "pesanti" ma, mi è stato chiesto dalla persona che me le ha date (che io personalmente ritengo attendibile al 70/80%) di non dire nulla. Posso dire solo questo; sono in contatto con un tale che a sua volta è in contatto con una o più persone vicine a Fidia. Le info che mi ha dato sono molto buone, probabilmente, più di quanto possiate immaginare. Detto ciò (già non avrei dovuto) non chiedetemi nulla, nemmeno in privato. Non posso dire nulla!!!
Ho scritto solo per non far perdere la speranza, a chi aspetta veramente.

Se faccio riferimenti, la persona interessata capisce subito chi sono, se mi sono esposto in questo modo è perchè so per certo che queste notizie non le ha date solo a me.

Mi è stato chiesto in privato se mi riferivo all'efficacia o all'uscita del prodotto, prima mi sono dimenticato. Comunque la data non la conosco, mi riferivo solo all'efficacia.

Regards from Madrid ;)

- "Speaking the truth, there would be some very "heavy" infos, but I was asked from the person who gave me them (that I personally trust in a scale from 70% to 80%) to do not tell anyone. I can only say: I am in contact with a guy who is in contact with one or more people associated with FIDIA. Those infos are very good, and probably, even more than you can imagine. Said this, (I didn't had to), do not ask me for more. I just wrote to keep up the hope for those who really believe in this lotion."

- "If I made references, the guy would immediately notice. If I exposed myself that way, it was just because I am not the only one who knows."

- "I was privately asked if [in the first message] I was referring to the effects of the lotion or to the marketing of it. I do not know the commercial details, I was referring to the effects."

Hope I provided a better translation than Google.
 

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But what does he mean with "Those infos are very good, and probably, even more than you can imagine."?
 

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But what does he mean with "Those infos are very good, and probably, even more than you can imagine."?

Nobody knows. That user was active since the first page of the thread one year ago, but didn't mention he knew anybody from Fidia. Then yesterday night he came out with those messages and at first nobody believed him. Then, many trolls decided to pop up and ruin the thread faking everybody. So the admin came (BOLA) to calm down and moderate, and he said that MaxPower was NOT a troll.
I personally didn't understand if was not a troll in the sense that BOLA knew from him the "infos" and checked, or if he was just remembering that he is an active forum member and not a troll.
 

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Thank you very much for everything @The 7TH Sense, but it seems it´s going to be difficult to know if that is true! Time will tell...

I can feel your desperation and lack of informations, I want to help because I myself am struggling in the waiting for this lotion.
Tag me when you need me (please do not use me only as a translator, it's a little bit long to do thate everytime :) )
 

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If you know nothing. Why you are necessary to us ?

Because italian is not a well known language, because I made a very solid 'luggage of informations' by even studying the matter, and because I am convinced that if we cooperate we can jump to more solid conclusions.

Now I ask you: if you think that balding is not that big deal we made, why do you keep posting here?
Just shave it, bro.
 

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@The 7TH Sense, Could you please translate this post made by Mary7876 on ieson:

"ho solo detto che esiste una certa soggettività nelle cure : purtroppo ho visto tanti ragazzi che con fina e minoxidil non hanno risolto nulla hanno solo mantenuto i capelli per 3-4 anni e poi i capelli li hanno salutati. Avevo tanti colleghi che purtroppo si sono rassegnati (con uno sconforto non indifferente). Non so come sarà la lozione di Brodtzu ma dall'articolo che mi ha posto 7th sense si evince che 2 donne hanno avuto solo blocco della caduta con una votazione sufficiente per quanto concerne la ricrescita. Quindi anche in questo caso ( pure vero che i soggetti erano donne in menopausa) devo vedere come reagisco al prodotto.
nuove new: una certa Claudia del sito di alopecia and friends ha dichiarato che la lozione sarà disponibile all inizio del 2017 se le licenze sui farmaci fossero state ok . Un altro utente nel forum americano che dice di essere vicino a brotzu ha asserito che i trial fidia erano già terminati.

Voi sapete se sono info vere?"

The first half of it just doesn't make sense when using Google translate.

Thanks!
 

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@The 7TH Sense, Could you please translate this post made by Mary7876 on ieson:

"ho solo detto che esiste una certa soggettività nelle cure : purtroppo ho visto tanti ragazzi che con fina e minoxidil non hanno risolto nulla hanno solo mantenuto i capelli per 3-4 anni e poi i capelli li hanno salutati. Avevo tanti colleghi che purtroppo si sono rassegnati (con uno sconforto non indifferente). Non so come sarà la lozione di Brodtzu ma dall'articolo che mi ha posto 7th sense si evince che 2 donne hanno avuto solo blocco della caduta con una votazione sufficiente per quanto concerne la ricrescita. Quindi anche in questo caso ( pure vero che i soggetti erano donne in menopausa) devo vedere come reagisco al prodotto.
nuove new: una certa Claudia del sito di alopecia and friends ha dichiarato che la lozione sarà disponibile all inizio del 2017 se le licenze sui farmaci fossero state ok . Un altro utente nel forum americano che dice di essere vicino a brotzu ha asserito che i trial fidia erano già terminati.

Voi sapete se sono info vere?"

The first half of it just doesn't make sense when using Google translate.

Thanks!

She was arguing with me on IESON on that post about finasteride and minoxidil, so from the beginning to "reagisco al prodotto" is clueless.
Then, the translation is: "new news: Claudia from the site of Alopecia&Friends said that the lotion will be available at the beginning of 2017 if the patents would have been ok. Another user from tje american forum near to Brotzu [obv referring to Beps] said trials had just ended [but it's false]. What do you say?"

Also, I take the occasion to say that Claudia who she refers to, is the admin of a site called alopecia&friends (but which is NOT the FB group in which Giuseppe Brotzu posted) who was at Turin's SITRI last month and spoke directly to the doctor, and she managed to obtain a "direct line" with him. Through her site, users should be able to ask their questions to the doctor. I tried, and she said she was collecting the kther users' questions. I've never had answers since 3 weeks ago. I guess the doctor is preparing his answers but I don't know for sure, maybe not.
Please do not contact her...
 

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And he got laid with a wonderful (and wild!) redhair woman! So, yep, we need @The 7TH Sense here...

Didn´t Claudia say anything else about the release date?

Cause the beginning of 2017 is not really a specific date.

I do not know, probably the user contacted her privately. But she said "if the patents are ok", which means nothing because we already have a patent, and she mentioned "drugs" while we will have a cosmetic.
There's a lot of misinformation ameven around us italians, I'm trying to collect all the pieces of the puzzle and I'm succeeding, but I do not know anything more about that Claudia. She's not the key for now, only Beps can reveal something before the official announcement of FIDIA.
 

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@The 7TH Sense Do you have access to the private facebook group in which Giuseppe Brotzu posted in? I know Giueseppe Brotzu mentioned that he believes the lotion would cost a lot less than a 100 euro a month, but do you know what more questions he answered?
 

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But what does he mean with "Those infos are very good, and probably, even more than you can imagine."?
In a year, we will all be NW1? Nobody knows, I just have to say again, that it sounds to be good to be true even though I want it so much.
 

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Omg stfu!!!! I am almost crying, I feel like a 10 year old spoiled girl that gets promised to get the newest iphone 10 with a pink fluffy cover.. If I dont get the iphone now at the end, I will be pissed as f***.. Holy sh*t.. My hands are shaking, someone hold my hand *b**ch face look*

No srsly @Axel1der aren't you italian? Can you confirm this?
Yes, he said that, but I continue to wait Official news by Fidia
 

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Hey @The 7TH Sense could u maybe give us a short summary what the italian forum knows and thinks about the lotion? So we can compare things and see, if we have the same info and thoughts about the lotion.

Thanks for joining the forum!

It's nearly impossible to answer this question. I could write for days and days without giving a proper answer.
In general, on IESON at least, people are very hopeful for the majority: recently 2 users posted their photos while using spato lotion and results were impressive; then a lot of other fake lotion's users came and said the group buy were scams and it worked only for those 2... Then other group buy members came and said it worked for more people... It's pure chaos.
But I can say a lot of users are very happy: science behind this lotion is extremely solid, this time.
The only neutral seems to be Marlin, the admin of the forum. He is VERY concerned with these things, when he speaks in the threads there's always something to quote and share for everybody. He goes against the "wishful thinking" of many of us. He recognizes the science explanations and he even knows more, but he is skeptical, basing on the previous treatments proposed and published everywhere. He thinks we are still going in circles, but he is always ready to clarify everything the users say or post, he tries to correct everything that's wrong and there's always big discussion when there is him. He believes firmly that Beps is not a troll, by the way. Marlin is the man, he thinks probably this lotion will work but it won't be this big deal we are pretending to make.
The others, exception made for 2-3 randoms, are very hopeful, myself included.
 

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It's nearly impossible to answer this question. I could write for days and days without giving a proper answer.
In general, on IESON at least, people are very hopeful for the majority: recently 2 users posted their photos while using spato lotion and results were impressive; then a lot of other fake lotion's users came and said the group buy were scams and it worked only for those 2... Then other group buy members came and said it worked for more people... It's pure chaos.
But I can say a lot of users are very happy: science behind this lotion is extremely solid, this time.
The only neutral seems to be Marlin, the admin of the forum. He is VERY concerned with these things, when he speaks in the threads there's always something to quote and share for everybody. He goes against the "wishful thinking" of many of us. He recognizes the science explanations and he even knows more, but he is skeptical, basing on the previous treatments proposed and published everywhere. He thinks we are still going in circles, but he is always ready to clarify everything the users say or post, he tries to correct everything that's wrong and there's always big discussion when there is him. He believes firmly that Beps is not a troll, by the way. Marlin is the man, he thinks probably this lotion will work but it won't be this big deal we are pretending to make.
The others, exception made for 2-3 randoms, are very hopeful, myself included.
This is what really worries me. All the veterans in the hair loss forums do not seem to be excited for this lotion. Marlin from IESON, @Swoop, or @hellouser don't seem to be convinced one bit in these hype threads
 

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This is what really worries me. All the veterans in the hair loss forums do not seem to be excited for this lotion. Marlin from IESON, @Swoop, or @hellouser don't seem to be convinced one bit in these hype threads
Well, if you go back a few dozen pages in this section you will see why: Many, many "cures" have been hyped like crazy and it all turned out to be (more or less) nothing. It could be different this time, but maybe not. Actually, all kind of dreaming or speculation we are doing here is a waste of time (yes, including my own posts). Just wait until it is there and works .....or not.
 
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