Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[kj6723]

who needs hair at that point. I can walk around gym washrooms naked, with my balls hanging to the floor to the floor while blow drying them in otherwise non conventional positions

I have the privilege of witnessing this from the 65+'s at my gym at least a few times a week

 

[shookwun]

I have the privilege of witnessing this from the 65+'s at my gym at least a few times a week

Once you reach that point in your life, you stopped caring a long time ago. while us young bucks apply minioxidil secretly, and expose ourselves in ethical manners, these men are at a stage in there life where aesthetics dont matter anymore.


they have imprinted there legacy long ago.

 

[Royaume]

Doesn't make sense. Why did they (beps and fb woman) stop posting...

I couldnt believe it... I was very sure that this lotion will be released in April at the latest... Then boooooom. I think they signed a general contract xD. No fkcing company is allowed to release it's product before 2018.. 2018 2018 2018 cant hear it. Follica fkcking tight lipped as always, fidia tight lipped 2018... Histogen 2018, Replicel 2018... I want that cure in 2018!!!!!!

@beps63 come back, I need a hype train again

Whats the update on italien forum? I was on their website but its really hard to translate every post cause the translation is sh*t....

 

[hairblues]

Doesn't make sense. Why did they (beps and fb woman) stop posting...

I couldnt believe it... I was very sure that this lotion will be released in April at the latest... Then boooooom. I think they signed a general contract xD. No fkcing company is allowed to release it's product before 2018.. 2018 2018 2018 cant hear it. Follica fkcking tight lipped as always, fidia tight lipped 2018... Histogen 2018, Replicel 2018... I want that cure in 2018!!!!!!

@beps63 come back, I need a hype train again

Whats the update on italien forum? I was on their website but its really hard to translate every post cause the translation is sh*t....

i think why the Italian woman stopped sharing information is people were harassing her. Keep in mind she is an artist who was easily 'found' if wanted too she was always posting her shows exhibits etc.

people (many balding men in 50s she had said on FB post) were harassing her on social media and being vicious to her accusing her of lying etc.

I think her focus was more on young people losing hair--i don't think most people realize its is harmful to older men so i think she probably felt like 'f*** off' if people were being mean or demanding information, challenging her or misrepresenting her on forums.

I am going by her angry post on FB which i think someone shared here a while back--i may have even reposted it here i cant remember. She was definitely a bit 'dramatic' but she was a good link of information.

 

[MrJolly16]

Well people harass her, but as someone also wrote they signed a contract. So maybe now that things have changed (or about to change) they can´t say what Fidia is up to. I don´t know, but I hope at least beps comes back because we need him more than ever.

But March/April is not that far, maybe they will release results then. It´s quite difficult to bare this situation, but I remembered I watched Brotzu´s videos and the results were amazing. So, yes, I still believe in the lotion! Am I wrong? Time will tell...

 

[MrJolly16]

I´ve been rewatching the video and Brotzu showed a table describing some facts like number of individuals that were part of the "trial" (16: most of them were kids, but there were also 6 adults), the kind of hairloss they suffer (areata or totalis, does this one mean Androgenetic Alopecia or is it a different pathology?) and the results are really impressive as I said before.

Can´t believe this thing doesn´t work, so I think Fidia is taking care of how to keep the lotion stored for a longer period of time as well as the improvements and possible sides of those were part of the trial. Besides they have to plan the "logistics" (is it grammatically correct to say that? Sorry!) or stuff like that so they can launch the product at the end of the year.

 

[Sanchez1234]

I've been out from this post for few months. What's the situation now?

You missed a lot my friend. Everybody iis a Norwood-1. Hair everywhere

 

[ironix]

I think the stability is the main problem they face. In the patent fidia tested a new stabilizer in addition to brotzus stabilazer and the lotion was stable for 30 days but they don't tested it for longer. And after 30 days it already lost 1/4 of the charge. She was still stable but if the lotion constantly lost the same amount the lotion is unstable after at least 2 months.

 

[MrJolly16]

And is that something they can fix or is it going to be a pain in the *** for them (and of course us)?

We need scientists here

 

[ironix]

Liposome stability is a complex issue. There are three types of liposome stability:

1) Physical stability
2) Chemical stability
3) Biological stability

Physical stability indicates the constancy of the size and the ratio of the lipid to the active compound such as drugs, DNA molecules, etc. The cationic liposomes can be stable at 4 degree centigrade (refrigerator) for a long period of time if they are properly sterilized.

Chemical instability primarily indicates hydrolysis and oxidation of lipids. Hydrolysis detaches the hydrophobic chains of ester bonds. Oxidation is more likely due to the presence of unsaturated chains. Adding antioxidants such as BHT to the liposome formulation can usually protect the lipids from oxidation.

Biological stability of liposomes is limited. Cationic liposomes in plasma are prone to aggregation and exhibit leakage. High density lipoproteins (HDLs) are responsible for destabilization of liposomes prior to interaction of liposomes with circulating phagocytic cells such as monocytes. The destabilization of liposomes is due to the lipid exchange between the liposomes and HDLs.

Industrial application of liposomes (e.g commercialization of liposomal drug formulations) requires an extensive shelf life studies. The expiration dating period or shelf-life of a drug product is defined as the time at which the average drug characteristic (e.g., potency) remains within an approved specification after manufacture. The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires that a shelf-life be indicated on the immediate container label of every drug product.

Source: https://www.quora.com/How-stable-are-Liposomes

 

[That Guy]

I dont have time to wait for this cure, by then i will be a bald, old, senile, and impotent.

By the time this particular thing comes out, you'll probably be 1 year older. By the time the other things in the pipeline are out, you might be 3-7 years older, which is not as good but still...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you under age 30? From pics it looks like your transplants have left you mostly a fullhead.What does this even matter to you?

No offense, but it really sounds like all you live for is cocaine and banging dumb club w****s. What will you do when this lifestyle becomes impractical? Probably around age 35, if not sooner. Like, the outlook you and others with similar lifestyles have leads me to believe you guys will off yourselves in less than 10 years. Hell, I would if I was in that position.

I'm fine with finasteride, minoxidil and transplants for the moment, but if something better is out even once I'm in my early 30s, that's still good and there is no harm in looking forward to it

 

[shookwun]

By the time this particular thing comes out, you'll probably be 1 year older. By the time the other things in the pipeline are out, you might be 3-7 years older, which is not as good but still...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you under age 30? From pics it looks like your transplants have left you mostly a fullhead.What does this even matter to you?

No offense, but it really sounds like all you live for is cocaine and banging dumb club w****s. What will you do when this lifestyle becomes impractical? Probably around age 35, if not sooner. Like, the outlook you and others with similar lifestyles have leads me to believe you guys will off yourselves in less than 10 years. Hell, I would if I was in that position.

I'm fine with finasteride, minoxidil and transplants for the moment, but if something better is out even once I'm in my early 30s, that's still good and there is no harm in looking forward to it

i have stories related to that matter, but for the most part all i do is focus on my career, and work out in my spare time.


what else would you do in my position when you live a tiny city where there is nothing to do.


I am 25 at the moment. your perception, and views on me are understandable but i can assure you i rarely party anymore. Given my position, and lack of prospects through friends, and entertainment i am left with the activity i mentioned above, and playing computer games. All though my situation would be different had I lived in my prior city. but id be broke, and bald at that point.


maybe making good money, and restoring my hair is worth it in the long run.


I hope you are right. If we can stop hair loss on a cellular level, then that alone would be a big improvement. I dont expect miracle hair regeneration this time around, but a form of injection, ointment or pill that can fully inhibit hair loss would be great at this point.

 

[MrJolly16]

Liposome stability is a complex issue. There are three types of liposome stability:

1) Physical stability
2) Chemical stability
3) Biological stability

Physical stability indicates the constancy of the size and the ratio of the lipid to the active compound such as drugs, DNA molecules, etc. The cationic liposomes can be stable at 4 degree centigrade (refrigerator) for a long period of time if they are properly sterilized.

Chemical instability primarily indicates hydrolysis and oxidation of lipids. Hydrolysis detaches the hydrophobic chains of ester bonds. Oxidation is more likely due to the presence of unsaturated chains. Adding antioxidants such as BHT to the liposome formulation can usually protect the lipids from oxidation.

Biological stability of liposomes is limited. Cationic liposomes in plasma are prone to aggregation and exhibit leakage. High density lipoproteins (HDLs) are responsible for destabilization of liposomes prior to interaction of liposomes with circulating phagocytic cells such as monocytes. The destabilization of liposomes is due to the lipid exchange between the liposomes and HDLs.

Industrial application of liposomes (e.g commercialization of liposomal drug formulations) requires an extensive shelf life studies. The expiration dating period or shelf-life of a drug product is defined as the time at which the average drug characteristic (e.g., potency) remains within an approved specification after manufacture. The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires that a shelf-life be indicated on the immediate container label of every drug product.

Source: https://www.quora.com/How-stable-are-Liposomes

Difficult, but can it be fixed in let´s say less than a year? So they can launch the product in January (2018).

 

[Brotzu White]

Ok, here's some much needed answers:

1) Long time lurker, my registration date is meaningless.
2) I just translated what was posted on the IESON forums, since i'm italian. I don't know if that Gaia's father dude is legit. However, i have no faith in this lotion, so i have no reason to doubt.
3) The "artist" was not harassed. She was a dick who kept mocking Androgenetic Alopecia sufferers. She basically said "you're just old men, you don't need hair, stop pestering me with messages".
She kept ignoring Androgenetic Alopecia sufferers questions and only cared about AA, aka, the condition that's affecting her. Gotta love female empathy.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Ok, here's some much needed answers:

1) Long time lurker, my registration date is meaningless.
2) I just translated what was posted on the IESON forums, since i'm italian. I don't know if that Gaia's father dude is legit. However, i have no faith in this lotion, so i have no reason to doubt.
3) The "artist" was not harassed. She was a dick who kept mocking Androgenetic Alopecia sufferers. She basically said "you're just old men, you don't need hair, stop pestering me with messages".
She kept ignoring Androgenetic Alopecia sufferers questions and only cared about AA, aka, the condition that's affecting her. Gotta love female empathy.

I just lost all sympathy for her.

 

[kiwipilu]

what does she think about women losing hair because of aag? Today typical day, while I was heading to work this morning I saw few women with thinning hair, I saw 2 middle aged women with very advanced diffuse loss, they were not trying to hide it. They were dealing with it, like women. Is it right to say? ... I can't imagine how many women are using stuff to hide it. Not to mention how many women have weird hairlines and have no idea what's going on in their scalp.
And this woman thinks it's a man's business.

 

[Armando Jose]

Also if he talks about microcirculation he just refers to the smallest vessels you have in your head and there is a possibility that those vessels die. But this would not mean that you don't bleed because the bigger vessel still function on your head. If you get a frost bite you first lose your toes and your fingers because they are not the priority for your survival. If your vessels in your head get damaged and the bloodflow on your head decreases the first and logical organ to get rid of are your hairs in order to keep the rest of the skin functional.

toes and fingers are not hair, BTW it is interesting....

 

[ironix]

toes and fingers are not hair, BTW it is interesting....

Well i prefere to lose my hair instead of my fingers and toes, i don't wanna apply minoxidil on my hands and my feets

 

[shookwun]

applies lotion

> days later,

> hair is growing so fast
> hair has stopped falling out

Histogen, and replicel must be in post traumatic shock at this point.

I rest my faith in DrYou, and his highly credible forum post.

 

[Gone]

This thread title is misleading, although it does fit with the rest of the thread in terms of unsubstantiated claims