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Identical to common hair loss, BTW
Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016
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who the hell is 'Brotzu White' member ?
he Just joined recently the forum on Jan 11, 2017.
and who the hell is father of Gaia he's talking about?
sorry guys i'm using the same logic as you do. you don't believe in any member who came here and talk good things about this lotion, no beps, no 7th sense.... and lot of others.
everybody whom saying a good info about the lotion was Doubtful for you.
so why should i believe in 'Brotzu White' ?
and even so not any lotion in the world should cure 100% of the patient they used it. Are minoxidil and finesteride fake too ? because they didn't work for all of us and you know that!!!
and for people whom asking to close this thread, you can just ignore it , no body is forcing you to check this thread every minutes.
People in this thread are too weak, one bad quote and people start to be so F**** pessimistic and start demanding to close this thread.
Let me remember you that in the beginning people were claiming that this lotion is a SCAM and won't work in either Androgenetic Alopecia and AA. but later in november the opposite was proved and they showed a pictures of AA patient healed. So don't be Desespered by fool people thoughts.
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This thread is still going...
He is the most nihilistic member here who takes every opportunity to complain about something; a textbook example of the bald guy who likes being miserable and will find something else to complain about if he gets his hair back.
Anyway, I don't care what some dad said on the Internet and I doubt you'll ever hear from Beps again. I expect fidia will issue another statement next year if there's anything worth reporting.
He is the most nihilistic member here who takes every opportunity to complain about something; a textbook example of the bald guy who likes being miserable and will find something else to complain about if he gets his hair back.
Anyway, I don't care what some dad said on the Internet and I doubt you'll ever hear from Beps again. I expect fidia will issue another statement next year if there's anything worth reporting.
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I am with tzt. I also don't get it.
For me its totally understandable to not trust beps or anyone. But at least stay consistent and believe no one.
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i thought we pretty much came to a shared assumption on thread that Beps was brotzu son?
I know no way to confirm this...but makes most sense to me for a few reasons.
Let's assume he is his son. Is this good or bad? xD I don't see a reason why he should lie because they sold the patent to fidia or do you think they will profit from the hype?
I know these are all assumptions but it's interesting xD
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I don't think he 'lied' i just found him emotional in his responses.
I don't know what is going on with Brotzu/Fidia.
Only thing i am thinking at this point is
1.did not have as good results as they originally thought (AA is something that is hard to gauge results because it can go into spontaneous remission especially in small children)
2. Its not as effective as Minoxidil and or propecia/dutasteride.--I hope they did a comparison of this within all this time...this would be for me especially if i were a man the important deciding factor of switching to brotzu--Is it as good or better as those two treatments combined over an extended period of time?
I dont know if Beps results were that impressive. I never saw a pic. From what people have written who saw did not sound impressive--i could be mistaken on this.
i personally did not find the Italian woman's results that impressive--I think she had some small improvement but she was essentially still bald and had to keep shaving and or wearing wigs.
I never saw more pics than the menopausal women--(which is good because women don't have option of Propecia or dutasteride, )and the pics of the small child with AA and the Italian woman with AA....If more pics i did not see them or i am getting old or having brain fog from spironolactone and can't remember.
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There's no need for a comparison to propecia/minoxidil as the response functions to those treatments are now well known. All that's needed is some sort of placebo.
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Because i had not originally read it correctly i read it very fast...i'm at work.
if you look at my response it was edited at 222. you posted at 226 and then edited at 236.
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It took me more than 4 minutes to write my post as I was multitasking. The edit was to correct some typos, not to address your edits.
You could just ask me to remove the first line. I think that's what you want. I'll do that now since it's no longer relevant.
Edit: Both posts are gone given the change of content that I was responding to.
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I am a bit confused about the part where you say Beps had subpar results. Last I recall he said his vertex went from 10cm to 4cm in diameter. Souce: https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/posts/1382829/
But at this point his credibility is out the window given that his contradictory statement regarding the early release of the lotion whereas Fidia says it's in development until 2018.
Also speculation that it is not as effective as minoxidil/finasteride is just absurd given that Fidia themselves claim, "the development of a hair loss remedy initiated a few months ago, we announce that the study is still in progress". Had the product not shown any potential than I don't see why the study is till in progress.
Source: http://www.fidiapharma.com/en/news/prof-brotzu-s-hair-loss-remedy,3,115
Best we can do now is just wait for the study's results then comment on it's efficacy. I am not writing off this lotion just yet.
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No i don't care, no worries
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Regarding beps---did anyone actually see good before and after photos of this? Or is it just based on his testimony?
Regarding 'absurdity"
why is it absurd to think that perhaps it is not as effective as minoxidil and an oral Anti Androgen combination?
Its speculation on my part of a possible reason why they are not releasing it, which i think i wrote pretty clearly.
NOW we are going to only stick to proven facts?
Okay, I am down for that... if the moderators edited this thread for proven facts i think it would be less than 5 pages long.
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I don't think anyone saw his photos.
I am saying it is absurd because none of us have any information on the trials, it is equally absurd to speculate that this will be a revolutionary product when there isn't a lot of photographic evidence available. The pictures on that Italian journal are useless I couldn't deduce anything from it.
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its not 'absured to speculate..we are humans who are curious about what happened..i responded to a poster and gave my opinion about possible reasons its not being released.
I mean its like telling people don't have an imagination, curiosity or opinions.
they were supposed to release information on a study--they did not do this.
they started (this is fact) the study in Spring of '16.
They had some results they are choosing not to share with us and they are doing further study or extending this original study.
but for sure they had a solid 6 months of data they could have released YET chose not to.
Of course we are going to speculate on this.
Why did they not share any data? its a natural curiosity for those of us following this thread, the italian woman etc for the past 9 months or so.
It would only be absurd if i was trying to pass off my speculations as facts..something i am pretty careful NOT to do.
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Fair enough I see your point
"They were supposed to release information on a study", where did you get this from? I thought they hadn't released any statement prior to the one in January saying the development will last until 2018.