Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

sangan89

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I am also on the BelliCapelli Italian forum, where this Spiga92 wrote... I haven't spoken with him personally, he has suddenly appeared on the Brotzu Lotion thread saying it was a scam etc, and then, after few days, he started saying "oh sorry guys I have seen amazing pictures from Brotzu patients which went from NW4 to NW1 in like 30 days it's a miracle I have to admit I was wrong blablabla", sounds really like a troll which made up the "I absolutely don't believe this crap" to "OMG I was wrong it's a miracle" to get some attention...

I mean he registers to a forum to say Brotzu lotion is bullshit, and, CASUALLY, after few days he becomes the only one seeing super secrets pictures which he cannot even post and nobody has ever seen? C'mon, who can believe this crap?
 

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Welcome to the internet sir.

I've been posting in baseball, boxing, MMA, basketball, video games, beer, wine, computer building, music forums since about 2006 and this is the internet as a whole. This is the behavior of people, you can't stop it. But there's always going to be 2-3 people complaining about content posted in a thread, every where I go, but this is actually NORMAL behavior and you just have to deal with it. If Brotzu lotion comes out and works, YOU'LL KNOW.

I'm sick and tired of people bitching about what others post. What everyone has been talking about, that you're complaining about, is actually ON TOPIC, nobody in this thread is actually saying anything OFF TOPIC. So just stop it. If you don't like it, just leave and you'll hear if Brotzu lotion works or not when it comes out, guaranteed. People discussing and speculating for pages and pages on here doesn't actually affect anything AT ALL. In fact all it does is spread awareness of this lotion and keeps interest as one of the priorities of this section of the forum.

It affects my f*****g time, and everybodys f*****g time. So f*** you, and stop writting sh*t in this topic.
 

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When people say there is no proof that Brotzu works I wonder what they think about the pictures of those little kids with areata that got a lot of hair back. That is a proof that it at least works very well for areata right?
 

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When people say there is no proof that Brotzu works I wonder what they think about the pictures of those little kids with areata that got a lot of hair back. That is a proof that it at least works very well for areata right?

Just because it works for one condition that has hairloss as a symptom does not mean it works for another condition that has hairloss as a symptom.
 

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we have picture of a kid with areate and two pictures of women in menopause... LOL... No pictures of men at all... why? do you thinks that's random? Maybe the lotion works only for areata or only on women, as they obviously have a different ormonal system and we know how much hormons are important in hair loss...
 

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we have picture of a kid with areate and two pictures of women in menopause... LOL... No pictures of men at all... why? do you thinks that's random? Maybe the lotion works only for areata or only on women, as they obviously have a different ormonal system and we know how much hormons are important in hair loss...
Do you know if it works? No...
Do you know if it doesn't work? No...
Have you found a cure or are you totally sure nothing will ever come out ? No...

So why are you trying so hard to convince us that nearly anything that will come out is just scam? Nothing to do?
 

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Wow it's so goddamn boring to check this thread these days. I mean I'm all for discussion but like, people appear to just be talking past each other.

"I think the lotion/Fidia/Brotzu/Italian forum is full of sh*t because there are no pictures!"
Yep, you're right. There ARE no pictures. But what that means is that the evidence (or lack thereof) tells us is that the efficacy of the lotion remains yet to be determined. Not that it works, or that it doesn't work.

"Brotzu wouldn't lie to us! So and so wouldn't lie! It can't be a scam!"
Yeah, he probably wouldn't lie. Actually, that anyone is lying or making things up maliciously is so obviously a minority opinion in this thread. Most people aren't suggesting that anything unethical is going on! Additionally, the lotion still might not be working despite the best intentions of Fidia and Brotzu!!!! This is research and development!! Everyone, especially the people trying to make and sell the lotion, definitely want it to work! To reiterate, just because Fidia and Brotzu are trying to make this lotion, it doesn't tell you anything about whether or not they have succeeded or failed. The evidence will tell you that. Not some guy's word. Not even Brotzu's words. At the end of the day, nobody is going to stop balding because of a statement some guy made. Just have to wait for the evidence. Tough nubs.

"You should have no hope for this lotion, just give up! I'm trying to protect you from disappointment"
"Why can I not have hope!? It makes me feel good and give me something to wake up to!"
People, whatever you want to err toward is your own f*****g problem. There's literally no point to convincing others to adhere to your subjective view. At the end of the day, most people here only give a f*** about real news about the real lotion. And if their view will crush their little soul, then that's something they have to figure out. We're all adults here. I think we can have the freedom to feel however the f*** we want about the situation without the need to impose those feelings on others (and frankly, that is very obnoxious behavior).

Whatever, in like 2 pages from now the circle jerk will resume regardless of the clearly evident fact that people are just venting at each other and not actually developing anything of substance from the conversations. Beneath the veneer of an argument, the discussion is clearly just a recycling and rehashing of the same few themes from which drawing a conclusion about the lotion is impossible.

Right now, when there do not appear to be any new developments and people are feeling impatient, frustrated and tempted to vent onto others, is the perfect time to take a break and enjoy some memes.
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When people say there is no proof that Brotzu works I wonder what they think about the pictures of those little kids with areata that got a lot of hair back. That is a proof that it at least works very well for areata right?

the areata kids is the least impressive to me because in children with areata is very quick to regrow on its own with no treatments...spontanious full remission is very common...its LESS common in adults and older people who have areata..the Italian woman in my opinion in her photos did NOT have real remission she maybe MAYBE in a photos got back 10-20% of her hair...even that was very hard to tell because she always shaved her head (she always had a few strands/tuffs she keep shaven)

I am NOT saying it did not work, I am just pointing out the facts about Areata after speaking to a lot of women and Mothers/Fathers who have areata and the realities of the disease.

its auto immune and something in children makes it easier for them to go into complete remission....unfortunatly they usually lose hair again at some point in life and are more likely as they get older to have Universal.

its a complicated autoimmune disease Areata

now if I had Areata I would be excited about Jax inhibitor and one day having a topical...the pills are really toxic--but if I had areata I would take the pills. They work. But super expensive they have to try and get into trials.
 

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Our dear member Sangan89 is now active on bellicappeli. Anyway, Spiga, the guy who claims to have seen a guy from a norwood 3/4 who has fully recovered now answered to Sangan89 (the clown) the following:

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Sounds very good :D

He does not sound like a troll. This sounds more like he is really convinced and very sure that this lotion is working as the professor said.

Every time I check back here there's someone belly aching about how it's a scam (a lotion that still doesn't commercially exist), and i proceed to read long copy paste defences for Brotzu. Ultimately nobody's opinion or bro science is going to change sh*t, and if and when this lotion is proven successful and released to us who are desperately optimistic for it to come out (myself included), ONLY THEN WILL WE KNOW.

I love this thread, but as another poster said, let's stick to the facts and bellacapelli updates, and drop the emotional attacks and corresponding defense of Brotzu, as they are totally irrelevant to whether this comes out or not.
 

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Ok, let´s talk again about Brotzu´s last interview.

If I remember correctly it was published the 13th of June and he said he believed the lotion would be released "fairly soon" (well at least he used the word "presto" I think). Am I complaining about it? Not at all!

What I mean is that if he said that and it has been over a month ago since he said that, it won´t take long for Fidia to finally sell the magic potion!
 

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I would only like to add that Brotzu also said "Minoxidil only works for the 30% of Androgenetic Alopecia cases" and that "I would never give FINASTERIDE to cure Androgenetic Alopecia"... so, basicalli, according to him, the only two products that have been scientifically proven to have some sort of effects on Androgenetic Alopecia are kind of bullshit, but he claims to have the REAL solution... fair enough...
 

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I would only like to add that Brotzu also said "Minoxidil only works for the 30% of Androgenetic Alopecia cases" and that "I would never give FINASTERIDE to cure Androgenetic Alopecia"... so, basicalli, according to him, the only two products that have been scientifically proven to have some sort of effects on Androgenetic Alopecia are kind of bullshit, but he claims to have the REAL solution... fair enough...
Finasteride have poor results and terrible side effects. We need a new alternative to "Finasteride"....
 
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