Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

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su hair transplant un utente ha trovato che il 9 agosto la richiesta di validazione e estensione del brevetto ai paesi europei è stata eliminata. Qualcuno che possa spiegare?
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Some user in "Hair Transplant"(?) has found out that on the 9th of August the request for the patent's validation and extension to (other) European countries was cancelled. Is there anyone who could explain this?
 
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MrJolly16

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Thanks @Rolandconil! I´ve found this in the patent you posted:

Status Request for examination was made

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Designated contracting states: AL, AT, BE, BG, CH, CY, CZ, DE, DK, EE, ES, FI, FR, GB, GR, HR, HU, IE, IS, IT, LI, LT, LU, LV, MC, MK, MT, NL, NO, PL, PT, RO, RS, SE, SI, SK, SM, TR [2017/13]
 
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At me a question: in what year the connection between DHT and abaissement of hair was found out?
 

MrJolly16

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http://bellicapelli.forumfree.it/?t=72095959&st=4650

C'è un aggiornamento ufficiale sullo status del brevetto che aggiunge i codici DAX e DAV alla lista. La descrizione dei codici è LETTERALMENTE: "Richiesta di espansione e di applicazione del brevetto in tutti gli altri stati dell'Unione Europea cancellata"

Che cosa questo voglia, nella pratica, in soldoni, effettivamente dire, non ne jo idea perché non me ne intendo. Ho cercato qualcosa su internet e ho trovato poco. Potrebbe anche essere che è scaduto il termine per effettuare la conferma di applicazione del brevetto e quindi è stata attualmente declinata, ma.ripeto che non sono manco sicuro su cosa voglia effettivamente, all'atto pratico, dire. Numerosi altri brevetti presenti nel database hanno questi codici, a cui però sono seguite altre azioni e altri codici. È difficile rintracciare poi la realizzazione fisica di un'invenzione, quindi non riesco a sapere se tali brevetti siano poi stati realizzati e commercializzati.

Serve qualcuno che se ne intenda nello specifico, altrimenti si sotterra tutto e si aspetta come si faceva fino ad oggi un comunicato FIDIA.

CITAZIONE (Spiga92 @ 27/8/2017, 14:01)
Se non dovessero commercializzare spererò che parta una pesantissima campagna di boicottaggio contro fidia e i suoi prodotti. Devono fallire male, perché davvero non se ne può più.

Purtroppo se non argomenti o provi ciò che dici, non hai molta voce in capitolo.



There is an official status update of the patent that adds the DAX and DAV codes to the list. The description of the codes is LETTERALLY: "Request for expansion and application of the patent in all other states of the European Union deleted"

What this desire, in practice, in soldiers, actually say, does not know why I do not mean it. I searched for something on the internet and found little. It may also be that the deadline for enforcing the patent application has expired and so it has now been declined, but I am not sure what I really want, in practical terms, to say. Numerous other patents in the database have these codes, but other actions and codes are followed. It is difficult to trace the physical realization of an invention, so I can not find out whether these patents have been made and marketed.

Someone who understands this is something they want, otherwise they are submerging everything and expecting a FIDIA statement so far.

QUOTE (Spiga92 @ 27/8/2017, 2:01 pm)
If they do not sell it, I will hope that a heavy boycott of fury and its products will start. They have to go wrong, because they really can not do it anymore.

Unfortunately, if you do not argue or try what you say, you do not have a lot of headlines.
 

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Well, I was banned, but somebody who wishes cancer upon others is not.
Yay, that's some objectivity and there is NO f-ing bias. NONE.
Yeah but you were probably banned because you don't seem to be able to appreciate the difference between "dislike" and "disagree." It's pretty f*****g annoying, actually.

And before you just go ahead and dislike my post, think about it for a second. You arguably dislike posts more than 99% of this board. I see your dislikes in every thread, yet I don't see the same from anyone else but a few other people who are basically acting childish and fighting. You dislike posts whether you are fighting, having a discussion, or really whatever!

What I stated above, even if it isn't to your liking, is just true. It's just observation. And it is considered very rude and frustrating when you dislike posts that provide information, opinion, or analysis, just because you don't agree. Of course we aren't all going to agree on everything. This is the cutting edge. But permanently attacking someone's reputation because your idea is different seems pretty extreme and retarded, wouldn't you agree?
 
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i have found a possible answer but i cant post lol bcse im new member.
if someone could just message me his facebook page so i can sent him the link i've found to post it here
 

Christian Miller

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Yeah but you were probably banned because you don't seem to be able to appreciate the difference between "dislike" and "disagree." It's pretty f*****g annoying, actually.

And before you just go ahead and dislike my post, think about it for a second. You arguably dislike posts more than 99% of this board. I see your dislikes in every thread, yet I don't see the same from anyone else but a few other people who are basically acting childish and fighting. You dislike posts whether you are fighting, having a discussion, or really whatever!

What I stated above, even if it isn't to your liking, is just true. It's just observation. And it is considered very rude and frustrating when you dislike posts that provide information, opinion, or analysis, just because you don't agree. Of course we aren't all going to agree on everything. This is the cutting edge. But permanently attacking someone's reputation because your idea is different seems pretty extreme and retarded, wouldn't you agree?
Actually, I wasn't banned for disliking posts.
We have a different perspective. And you clearly, 100% correctly have realized that.
Whenever I dislike a post, it's either me genuinely disliking it or disagreeing with its content.
What you or anybody else think about my perspective mean really nothing to me.
I would have given you some merit if the only thing I did was disliking comments, but I have liked lots of comments, it's just that it ain't yours.
Sorry, not sorry.
 

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Easy, we have good news from the IESON forum!

Fagiolo92

Tranquilli non è successo nulla. La società aveva proposto istanza di estensione in Bosnia ed Erzegovina, Marocco e Montenegro, del brevetto comunitario e successivamente l'ha ritirata rinunciando (almeno per ora) a conseguire la tutela brevettuale in questi paesi. Per il resto tutto come prima.

P.s.) Se ho capito bene questo hair transplant è un forum pressoché omologo. Se sono americani non dategli troppo retta su queste cose.

Saluti.
http://www.ieson.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=66178&whichpage=239

Quiet did not happen. The company had proposed an extension of the Community patent in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Morocco and Montenegro, and later withdrew it (at least for now) for patent protection in these countries. For the rest everything like before.

P.s.) If I understand this hair transplant is a nearly homologous forum. If you are American do not give it too straightforward about these things.

Greetings.
 

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That's why i am so f*****g angry with al the snake oils industry. They sell hope to sensitive people and they make them feel miserable.
Don't expect something from this lotion. If you want to try silly dgla theory use some borage oil. It won't cost so much.
There will be better treatments. Just hang on and stay away from this forum and all those c**** in here.
Im srsly considering to quit finasteride and wear a hat till a cure comes fuk it.

I'll find a 3/10 gf in the meantime to cope with.
 

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That's why i am so f*****g angry with al the snake oils industry. They sell hope to sensitive people and they make them feel miserable.
Don't expect something from this lotion. If you want to try silly dgla theory use some borage oil. It won't cost so much.
There will be better treatments. Just hang on and stay away from this forum and all those c**** in here.

Fidia never did anything to sell you hope, the people in this topic did. But overall, yes the snake oil industry is terrible to the hopeful. Only thing we can do is become less hopeful untill we have an actual reason to be hopeful.
 
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meanwhile......
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Actually, I wasn't banned for disliking posts.

I wasn't saying that you were banned because you aren't allowed to dislike posts and you did. I am saying your trigger-happiness with dislikes is the biggest reason as to why you have friction with so many people, which is likely what leads to the ban. Bans happen when a group of people get together and complain about the unpleasantness of a user, or if that user does something illegal like damage the website or do NSFW\inappropriate stuff like posting pornography. You are clearly not doing the last two things at all, so it must be the first, unpleasantness, that leads to the ban. The mods aren't shilling for Brotzu or any other tech in particular. If they shilled for anything, it would be S5 or some product that is actually out and that they make money on. They don't just ban people for no reason. In fact, most people who get banned have a very high dislike to message ratio - this means that users were actively letting them know, "Hey, we don't like this behavior" but the person continued.


We have a different perspective. And you clearly, 100% correctly have realized that.

Agreed.

Whenever I dislike a post, it's either me genuinely disliking it or disagreeing with its content.

Yes I totally understand that. What I am suggesting to you is that that's not how everyone else uses those buttons. By and large, the likes and dislikes that a user receives represents their contributions to the board. Look around if you don't believe me. Those with a high number of likes are people who usually give new information, present expertise in a field, or just make the board more enjoyable with jokes or memes. All of these add to the quality of the discussion. Dislikes are given to people who post things that bring down the quality of the board. Name calling, trolling, insults, and the like.

When you are discussing cutting edge technology, of course you will genuinely disagree with people. That's because we are speculating. We don't know the answer. Everyone will naturally disagree with everyone else about a variety of topics because it is the frontier of our knowledge.

If "dislike" means "I disagree with this post," we would see many productive posters with high dislikes, but we do not. There is a reason that the likes and dislikes are displayed PERMANENTLY on your profile. They show your quality as a poster, not how much each person agrees with everyone else - that's a useless metric in a discussion about stuff we don't know the answer to.

If someone tries their best to analyze a problem and present new information, regardless of whether you agree with their contribution, you have to admit - they are not bad posters. They are trying. They are adding to the discussion.
On the other hand, when someone just picks fights, calls names, trolls people, and wastes everyone's time, I think it's clear that those people are damaging the quality of this place.

The two types of people mentioned above are clearly not the same. When you hand out dislikes to both types - both when you disagree with a well crafted opinion, and when you dislike a rude poster - you are equating the two. That doesn't seem correct to me. And that is why I believe that you are misusing the dislike button.

What you or anybody else think about my perspective mean really nothing to me.

Fair enough. I'm just giving you feedback. I can't make you pay attention to it. And by the way, this isn't me attacking you personally, which leads me to my next point.

I would have given you some merit if the only thing I did was disliking comments, but I have liked lots of comments, it's just that it ain't yours.

You DO in fact like lots of comments. I fully acknowledge that. In fact, other than your penchant for disliking people, you're not a half bad poster. And for the record, you have liked my comments in the past, and I have liked some of yours as well.

Again, the main point I am trying to convey is that the way you use the dislike button is not how the majority of people use it, it is not how the most respected posters on this board use it, and it is likely not how the system was meant to be used.

To give an extreme example, Noisette has ONE dislike, by Nadia1972. I think we all know that Noisette is an excellent poster and always contributes a lot of useful information. Noisette always digs up information for us and is a very kind poster; he's done nothing wrong. The only reason Nadia1972 punished Noisette with a dislike was that she obviously did not believe in whatever technology he had posted about. That seems pretty unfair. But we also see that Nadia 1972 goes around disliking every other poster and disagrees with them regardless of their logic, or sources, or really anything. She's made up her mind, won't change it, and is willing to fight everyone. That is extremely annoying behavior and it's not surprising to me that she is the only person who has disliked Noisette. I don't think people should behave like that, and it appears that the mods agree. And I don't think you are that kind of person, but the way you use dislikes can be similar. So I'm just showing you another example of abuse of the dislike button.

Sorry, not sorry.

I'm not upset or asking for an apology or anything man. I'm just telling you how it is. Take it or leave it.
 
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Christian Miller

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I wasn't saying that you were banned because you aren't allowed to dislike posts and you did. I am saying your trigger-happiness with dislikes is the biggest reason as to why you have friction with so many people, which is likely what leads to the ban. Bans happen when a group of people get together and complain about the unpleasantness of a user, or if that user does something illegal like damage the website or do NSFW\inappropriate stuff like posting pornography. You are clearly not doing the last two things at all, so it must be the first, unpleasantness, that leads to the ban. The mods aren't shilling for Brotzu or any other tech in particular. If they shilled for anything, it would be S5 or some product that is actually out and that they make money on. They don't just ban people for no reason. In fact, most people who get banned have a very high dislike to message ratio - this means that users were actively letting them know, "Hey, we don't like this behavior" but the person continued.




Agreed.



Yes I totally understand that. What I am suggesting to you is that that's not how everyone else uses those buttons. By and large, the likes and dislikes that a user receives represents their contributions to the board. Look around if you don't believe me. Those with a high number of likes are people who usually give new information, present expertise in a field, or just make the board more enjoyable with jokes or memes. All of these add to the quality of the discussion. Dislikes are given to people who post things that bring down the quality of the board. Name calling, trolling, insults, and the like.

When you are discussing cutting edge technology, of course you will genuinely disagree with people. That's because we are speculating. We don't know the answer. Everyone will naturally disagree with everyone else about a variety of topics because it is the frontier of our knowledge.

If "dislike" means "I disagree with this post," we would see many productive posters with high dislikes, but we do not. There is a reason that the likes and dislikes are displayed PERMANENTLY on your profile. They show your quality as a poster, not how much each person agrees with everyone else - that's a useless metric in a discussion about stuff we don't know the answer to.

If someone tries their best to analyze a problem and present new information, regardless of whether you agree with their contribution, you have to admit - they are not bad posters. They are trying. They are adding to the discussion.
On the other hand, when someone just picks fights, calls names, trolls people, and wastes everyone's time, I think it's clear that those people are damaging the quality of this place.

The two types of people mentioned above are clearly not the same. When you hand out dislikes to both types - both when you disagree with a well crafted opinion, and when you dislike a rude poster - you are equating the two. That doesn't seem correct to me. And that is why I believe that you are misusing the dislike button.



Fair enough. I'm just giving you feedback. I can't make you pay attention to it. And by the way, this isn't me attacking you personally, which leads me to my next point.



You DO in fact like lots of comments. I fully acknowledge that. In fact, other than your penchant for disliking people, you're not a half bad poster. And for the record, you have liked my comments in the past, and I have liked some of yours as well.

Again, the main point I am trying to convey is that the way you use the dislike button is not how the majority of people use it, it is not how the most respected posters on this board use it, and it is likely not how the system was meant to be used.

To give an extreme example, Noisette has ONE dislike, by Nadia1972. I think we all know that Noisette is an excellent poster and always contributes a lot of useful information. Noisette always digs up information for us and is a very kind poster; he's done nothing wrong. The only reason Nadia1972 punished Noisette with a dislike was that she obviously did not believe in whatever technology he had posted about. That seems pretty unfair. But we also see that Nadia 1972 goes around disliking every other poster and disagrees with them regardless of their logic, or sources, or really anything. She's made up her mind, won't change it, and is willing to fight everyone. That is extremely annoying behavior and it's not surprising to me that she is the only person who has disliked Noisette. I don't think people should behave like that, and it appears that the mods agree. And I don't think you are that kind of person, but the way you use dislikes can be similar. So I'm just showing you another example of abuse of the dislike button.



I'm not upset or asking for an apology or anything man. I'm just telling you how it is. Take it or leave it.
I may leave it.
You are a good conversationist, btw.
 

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No need to ban this piece of sh*t wishing cancer to other people, cos he is promoting brotzu anyhow, right? But yeah, ban me instead 'cos I'm saying brotzu won't work without ever insulting or wishing bad things to anybody. You'll just get a very good image, for this forum.

I do not agree with you continuously repeating that this lotion sucks or it's not going to work, I think you should say what you have to say and move on, it's not that serious. If it's a phony treatment, it's a phony treatment, if it works, it works, what are you gonna about it, convince people?

But wishing cancer on others and the way he said it (worst form of cancer), with such malicious intent in his words, idk, he sounds very evil, and very, very young, and immature and i'm surprised no one here called him out on it. If you do not like this brotzu lotion, or have questions about it, he really takes it personal, like it's an insult to him and something he's worked hard for, or is selling hard. What he said to you about getting cancer sounded like someone who has some real bad problems in their head that go beyond being fucked up due to hair loss. Most of us are a little fucked up from hair loss, but in a different way, he's on another level. He's said some hate-filled, suspect things to me too, and i'm only on the fence on this lotion, not outright insulting it or trolling around, just asked legit questions about it and he went off on me. So of course to you, who are completely against the lotion, he may even kill you if he had the chance to do it and get away with it. The guy sounds borderline schizo with the way he talks to people sometimes.
 

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Stop guys. I received email from fidia.
Lets wait and see

And dont bother fidia with huge e-mail.
All we have to do is waiting until fidia release announcement.
 

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