It's all over now...

[barcafan]

probably because hairloss has alot to do with various hormones, and bald(ing) people are just hormonally inferior to people with hair, for the most part. Shyness, insecurity are also inferior traits. makes sense.

 

[ghg]

probably because hairloss has alot to do with various hormones, and bald(ing) people are just hormonally inferior to people with hair, for the most part. Shyness, insecurity are also inferior traits. makes sense.

I don't know if there's any truth to what I said, just an observation. On the other hand some people like Bill Gates still have hair.

 

[bigentries]

probably because hairloss has alot to do with various hormones, and bald(ing) people are just hormonally inferior to people with hair, for the most part. Shyness, insecurity are also inferior traits. makes sense.

What is hormonally inferior?
Higher Testosterone and DHT levels are actually very good, they are powerful androgenic hormones
Of course it means nothing when the new standard of beauty is looking like a 10 year old skinny boy into your 30's, but we are talking about evolution in a time way before civilization

 

[barcafan]

too bad you dont actually have higher T and dht, pure myth.

it's what you say to comfort yourself.

 

[bigentries]

too bad you dont actually have higher T and dht, pure myth.

it's what you say to comfort yourself.

Yes, because follicle sensitivity is what really matters. I think we all agree

So, if hormones are not outside the normal ranges why are we baldies "hormonally inferior" to the rest of the population?
Or it's what you say to confirm your pessimistic viewpoint of our condition?

 

[Mens Rea]

too bad you dont actually have higher T and dht, pure myth.

it's what you say to comfort yourself.

We're NOT hormonally inferior.

What a dumbass freaking statement.

Funny enough, my T and DHT levels are through the roof.


You guys are pathetic saying that guys with male pattern baldness tend to be weaker in many senses. What a load of toss.

The only thing "inferior" about me is my stupid weakass hair follicles. Little b****s can't handle the androgens that my big melon sized balls are pumping out

 

[elliotramsey]

^

 

[uncomfortable man]

It's not over GHG..... your hairloss will continue to advance.

 

[HatPrisoner91]

Like who is going to make a comment like that at anybodies funeral anyway? I would think that most people would have the common sense and decency to not slander someone at a venue like that..... but outside of that who knows.

Agreed with HP that an NW3v is nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed by but if you think about it neither should an nw7 for that matter since we can't control it.

Anything beyond our control we should feel neither pride or shame about but alas, naturally beautiful people take pride in their genetic superiority while the less fortunate may suffer from low self esteem.

Why do you think this is?

I think it's natural. Being ugly isn't anyone's fault either but that doesn't stop people from looking down at them.

Again, I think it goes back to a simple premise. You want to look somewhat like people around you. If you had three arms, while there isn't anything "wrong" with it, you would look and feel odd. Same reason people can't help but stare at someone with no legs or one leg. But it's a bit different in that usually garners sympathy while you rarely get sympathy for being ugly, fat or bald.

 

[Eureka]

you rarely get sympathy for being ugly, fat or bald.

A. Would you want it?
B. You shouldn't get sympathy for being fat, obesity is generally a decision of laziness, not one of genetics. You can of course be genetically predisposed yet the majority of fat people over eat and don't exercise. Their fault plain and simple.

We're NOT hormonally inferior.

What a dumbass freaking statement.

Funny enough, my T and DHT levels are through the roof.


You guys are pathetic saying that guys with male pattern baldness tend to be weaker in many senses. What a load of toss.

The only thing "inferior" about me is my stupid weakass hair follicles. Little b****s can't handle the androgens that my big melon sized balls are pumping out

It it not true that men with early onset male pattern baldness have lower levels of T but higher levels of Free T? (On avg)

Not sure we're weaker physically, but mentally we do seem to be b****s.

 

[BornIn89]

Not sure we're weaker physically, but mentally we do seem to be b****s.

Hahaha! :woot:

 

[HatPrisoner91]

A. Would you want it?
B. You shouldn't get sympathy for being fat, obesity is generally a decision of laziness, not one of genetics. You can of course be genetically predisposed yet the majority of fat people over eat and don't exercise. Their fault plain and simple.

Was just saying, this is similar to being bald. Maybe weight isn't that comparble for that reason (though some people have far better genetics than others). But being born ugly or disabled is not anyone's fault but people do look down on it.

 

[Ori83]

being born ugly or disabled is not anyone's fault but people do look down on it.

Mmm.. i used to think so aswell, but recently i came back from visiting my step brother in Amsterdam, and he is completely bald (and tall and very pale and skinny).. i noticed something about the people there (or at least the ones that i have encountered) they really dont give a f*** about how you look all that much (could be due to the fact they are all too stoned to noticed) and had a blast, such humble people these dutch men and women, i see people here (Israel) with such huge ego and i think in the US is the same... look when my bro came visit me we hit some clubs here and girls didnt give him a second look, he was very upset about that, (and he had another friend with him who didnt get any aswell) but over there its very easy (talking from *some* experience here) so i guess it all boils down to the society you live in, and western society - as liberal as we like to think ourselves - probably the most superficial (after the Slavics, they are the worse of the worse), im considering moving to Europe after im done with collage (not the UK tho, i think they are just as superficial as the Americans )

 

[ghg]

Fcuk this disease in the *** with a coke bottle!!1!!!

Phew, that's got it.

 

[Mens Rea]

you rarely get sympathy for being ugly, fat or bald.

A. Would you want it?
B. You shouldn't get sympathy for being fat, obesity is generally a decision of laziness, not one of genetics. You can of course be genetically predisposed yet the majority of fat people over eat and don't exercise. Their fault plain and simple.

[quote:2s3tox20]We're NOT hormonally inferior.

What a dumbass freaking statement.

Funny enough, my T and DHT levels are through the roof.


You guys are pathetic saying that guys with male pattern baldness tend to be weaker in many senses. What a load of toss.

The only thing "inferior" about me is my stupid weakass hair follicles. Little b****s can't handle the androgens that my big melon sized balls are pumping out

It it not true that men with early onset male pattern baldness have lower levels of T but higher levels of Free T? (On avg)

Not sure we're weaker physically, but mentally we do seem to be b****s.[/quote:2s3tox20]

Highly doubt it.

It's all about the follicles and their sensitivity. Other factors may compound the problem, ofcourse.

Hypothyroidism, in particular, can promote male pattern baldness's advancement.

 

[ghg]

I'm f*****g done with this disease... my hair has become non-existent during these last 4-5 months. It's getting me down big time, I even feel suicidal from time to time. Now I finally know what Uncomfortable Man and s.a.f. have been telling us about. It's so much different to be balding than to be actually bald. Thank god I have other conditions aswell to make me feel even more freaky.

My hair is frizzy, dry, and looks extremely thin and totally see through on top. It's the same on the sides too but the thickness naturally saves the appearance there. I don't know what the f***'s happening with my skin and hormones but I'm definitely ready to throw in the towel... no one who doesn't have to go through this stuff could never understand how we feel. I've tried every proven treatment that I could afford/gotten my hands into. Nothing works, I'm just as bald as my brother who hasn't done sh*t to save his hair. I've even been on a healthy diet for 3,5 years, very strict, tried treatments, nothing works. f*** this sh*t. All I can ask is why me!? Why!?

 

[optimus prime]

Does it bother your brother as much as it bothers you?

I though you were trying Proscar?

 

[ghg]

Does it bother your brother as much as it bothers you?

I though you were trying Proscar?

Yeah I'm on Proscar, have been for 2 months. Still getting sides from finasteride so I don't know if I should just quit. My ejaculatory volume is laughably low even after several days of not cumming. My libido is very low, usually I'd get wet dreams and morning boner if I'd go one day without wanking. Now, nothing even after 2-3 days. Sperm is gel-like too. Sensitive nipples too exactly like the 1st time around with finasteride. No problem getting it up though when I want to, but it just takes a little effort. No real sexual desires. Besides all these sexual sides I also get very bad, restless sleep nowadays. I can only sleep like 5 hrs straight, then I wake up and it's hard to fall asleep again.

My testosterone levels are roughly half of what they were 2 years ago. They were a bit over the limits then but now they're quite low for my age. And it certainly feels like it!

And no, I don't think my bro is as bothered by his hairloss than me. I know it hurts him more than he admits (we're twins so I know him pretty well), but not as severely as it affects me. He still keeps his hair long although it looks ridiculous. My hair looks ridiculous too, but I think it's a cleaner look to keep it short if you're severely losing it.

 

[optimus prime]

If the sides are too much you should try RU. It is expensive, and annoying to apply, but because you have short hair it should not be too bad.

Also, there seem to be products like Follica, Histogen, Acell, etc, that should be available in the next 3-8 years. If you can hang on until then.

That is my plan, I plan to hang in until 2014 - 2018 and wait for something, if nothing by then I will give up and accept nature.

 

[cuebald]

have you tried topical spironolactone?