Since you donated, why share a laugh with occulus about how he won't donate but he'll get the HLC info at the same time as people like you who did donate?
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Just Donated $200 To Send Hellouser To Japan.
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Since you donated, why share a laugh with occulus about how he won't donate but he'll get the HLC info at the same time as people like you who did donate?
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because it was funny.
I donated I did not feel entitled to owning how this will go down or how people will think about it..
I am not an occulus fan but he is entitled to his opinion.
You don't donate to something and then are entitled to how it goes down--thats why its called a 'donation.'
Says who?
It's common for people to challenge how donations and charities "go down". It happens all the time.
Check this out:
https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...-investigated-for-alleged-misuse-of/22135850/
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You are implying that this website this organization is not going to use the funds as intended.
To be honest Nameless if this was my site i would hand you your money back and ban you from the site for implying such corrupt behavior with no proof.
I did not say how the organization will use the funds. I merely posted proof that your idea that people don't have the right to question fund-raising issues is incorrect. People have challenged fund-raising projects for many reasons but this one involving Trump is the most recent one so it's the first one that came up in a google search. I recall people also getting all fired up about the Komen breast cancer organization when they were going to stop contributing to planned parenthood. There are all kinds of reasons why people challenge fund-raising organizations.
It seems odd to me that it bothers you when I merely posted the most recent challenge to a fund-raising organization to demonstrate that people do challenge fund-raising organizations but it doesn't bother you at all that Occulus came right out and said that the site will use the funds for a "great vacation" which would be an obvious misuse of the funds. And you got bothered with me for something you mistakenly believed I was "implying" whereas occulus didn't imply anything. He came right out and said that the money will be used for someone's "great vacation" which would be a definite misuse of the funds. I have not seen you post that occulus should be banned for flat-out accusing the organization of planning to misuse the funds. Given that you donated some of the collected funds it seems like occulus's allegations should bother you.
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That's not the point. The point is that some people who can afford to donate are not going to donate even though they know that they will examine the information to see if there's interesting news. These people are mooching. I should be allowed to tell them that they're mooching since that is exactly what they ARE doing.
When mooching is going on there are 2 (or more) parties involved - the moocher and the person being mooched on. People who are being mooched on have a right to dislike it and to say something about it.
Now I admit that moochers also have the right to mooch if they can get away with it but they shouldn't have the right to silence the greivance of the person being mooched on.
If people really are mooching why should you, or anyone else, have the right to silence the complaints of the person being mooched on?
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People are gonna mooch if they wanna mooch nameless. It really is a mooch point.
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I was referring to you thinking you can tell them 'how' they post information and that they withhold it from people who did not donate or you wanted your money back.
You have NO right to tell someone who you donated money too--HOW they release information.
It would be like if you donated to a playground in your neighborhood--you don't have a right to put conditions on a donation you already made.
You can't put conditions on a donation after the fact.
Sure I do/can. New information has come to light since I donated.
At the time I donated I was unaware of occulus's public allegations of fraud and it wasn't known that some people would be mooching off other people. I assumed the only people who wouldn't be donating would be the people who truly can't afford to donate and the people who were not interested in the information. I did not know that financially able people who want the information wouldn't be donating specifically because they want to mooch off of other people.
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Why do you care so much what occulus thinks?
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Anonymous postings from God knows who on a forum is not 'new information' to hang your hat on.
Afro_Vacancy as I indicated in the other thread I am not going to dispute the charge. I deleted that post a few minutes ago to reduce some of this crap but I think you saw it. I know that occulus's allegation about the funding project being a scam to pay for someone's great vacation is totally wrong. As I indicated in that post I deleted, occulus's allegation against Hellouser (that the funds are actually a scam to pay for Hellouser's "great vacation") worked it's way into my brain and I actually started believing that nonsense. Just before falling asleep it hit me that the allegation is nonsense and I posted that. I also said I would not be disputing the charge because Hellouser is definitely not trying to scam anyone and the project is a very worthwhile effort.
But that is one issue.
There is still the issue of the moochers.
I should be allowed to tell moochers that they're moochers. In real life I tell my best friend when it's time for him to pay for something. A gal I know is going on a trip with me and I told her she has to contribute. I'm using some of my Amtrak miles to get a sleeper car for part of the trip and told her she would have to get an Amtrak credit card so she could get the sign-up bonus in order to have enough rewards points to contribute to the trip, if she wants to go.
If someone is trying to mooch I should be allowed to call the person on it. I agree that a person has the right to try to mooch but I should also have the right to speak my mind and point out that the person is trying to mooch. Why should only the moocher have rights? Why shouldn't the person being mooched on have the right to call the moocher what he is? Why should the moocher be shielded from the truth that he is mooching?
Let him mooch but also let me tell him that he's mooching.
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That is an unsolvable problem, there will always be moochers. However, I like to believe that some of the cynics will be swayed by Hellouser's excellent work. I was very impressed with what he did in Abilene, which came out right around the time I joined the forum.
Hellouser doesn't deserve any of this sh*t. I would have never thought for one second that the project might be a scam if not for a few posters alleging that crap. I feel foolish because I should have known better than to fall for that sh*t but they sounded so convincing and Johnson in particular is intelligent and credible.
I'm sorry to Hellouser for falling for that sh*t. It won't happen again.
But I'm still going to tell the moochers that they're mooching.
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You made a comment that nothing could prevent someone from being able to donate at least $1 in one post, then admitted you didn't donate for the last conference, but still read the threads. Can I get a refund for my donation from last conference? Nameless mooched!
I guess you didn't read how things ended up with me not donating last year a**h**. I actually did donate (by paying $162 for one night for Hellouser at the hotel the hair loss Congress was taking place at) but then Hellouser decided not to stay at that hotel. Of course I canceled the hotel room. I then ended up hospitalized the same day or the day after I canceled the hotel room. I spent some significant time in the hospital due to severe pancreatitis, which almost killed me. The moment I could stand I needed urgent surgery to get my gall-bladder removed since my gallbladder was causing the attacks of pancreatitis, which could kill me. About a week after the surgery I was able to leave the hospital finally. I then ended up at home in pain, in bed, and on a lot of morphine. This was all doctor's orders. And thank you for your concern. Of course, given these circumstances I was too sick to donate again after Hellouser rejected my first donation.
Are you in the hospital having surgery? Are you deathly ill and all doped up on morphine? I think not. Don't try to compare your present situation to the situation I was in for the last donation period of the HLC. Given how sick I was you might as well fault dead people for not donating if you're going to fault me for not donating last time. Of course health issues could prevent someone from making a donation. And if you're deathly ill then of course it's not your fault if you don't donate.
And I did not say that "nothing" could prevent someone from contributing $1. I actually said none of the people who post here are in such dire financial straits that they can't donate $1. I then added that if there are a few people who can't afford even $1 then of course that is understandable and they shouldn't be expected to donate. Please don't lie about what I said.
Again, I did actually donate last year but Hellouser turned down the donation. And for the record, as I already stated I donated $200 this year to make up for being unable to make a donation last year. Hence, my $200 donation this year was actually a donation of $100 for this year and a donation of $100 for last year.
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nameless
remember one thing when it comes to donation,
there are 3 types of people -
1. one who could donate (atleast a few dollars)
2. one who couldn't ( because they haven't started earning yet or financially weak)
3. assholes - who just don't want to because they think they are way too smarter than others. But just think about it for a second from a different point of view, nameless, if all of us think in the same way - there would be no donation at all and eventually, no campaign and all these conditions of viewership would be meaningless by then.
Just try to ignore these assholes (occulus), they don't help us in anyway. Think straight and logically. If there is any doubt, go through this
https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/forums/9th-world-congress-for-hair-research-conference.50/
The work speaks for itself.
I wanted to say a lot but life's getting a little busy on this end. I am about to join a somewhat average university because my rank was way bad in my country. You all know the reason why. I just don't know yet how to handle this emotional rollercoaster completely. Sometimes, I do breakdown thinking people are underestimating me because of my hairloss (an awkward receding hairline). And even when I do gather some courage to face this society, I often get a feeling from the behavior of my friends - " that I shouldn't cross my limit." I was a brilliant student in my class but I just couldn't bear the pain of hoplessness. Just remember the reason why you donated. That will be enough. If people, who are willing to donate like you, won't come forward, this campaign will meet a dead end for sure.
remember one thing when it comes to donation,
there are 3 types of people -
1. one who could donate (atleast a few dollars)
2. one who couldn't ( because they haven't started earning yet or financially weak)
3. assholes - who just don't want to because they think they are way too smarter than others. But just think about it for a second from a different point of view, nameless, if all of us think in the same way - there would be no donation at all and eventually, no campaign and all these conditions of viewership would be meaningless by then.
Just try to ignore these assholes (occulus), they don't help us in anyway. Think straight and logically. If there is any doubt, go through this
https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/forums/9th-world-congress-for-hair-research-conference.50/
The work speaks for itself.
I wanted to say a lot but life's getting a little busy on this end. I am about to join a somewhat average university because my rank was way bad in my country. You all know the reason why. I just don't know yet how to handle this emotional rollercoaster completely. Sometimes, I do breakdown thinking people are underestimating me because of my hairloss (an awkward receding hairline). And even when I do gather some courage to face this society, I often get a feeling from the behavior of my friends - " that I shouldn't cross my limit." I was a brilliant student in my class but I just couldn't bear the pain of hoplessness. Just remember the reason why you donated. That will be enough. If people, who are willing to donate like you, won't come forward, this campaign will meet a dead end for sure.
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Wow there's a lot of dicks on this thread crying about donating a couple hundred bucks that will at least bring back some updates on new tech. I would donate too but my funds are a little tight at the moment after dropping 6K last summer, along with a few others here, to determine that Kerastem was bullshit. Basically I'm saying donate or don't, but don't flatter yourself with dropping a hundred bucks.