just lol if you dont look like tyson fury (hair havers on suicide watch)

[Oknow]

Fair enough. You seem to know what works for you and doesn't. I was a full head and decent looking but I failed because of low self esteem and didn't have confidence to engage in conversation so the women would lose interest fast. So don't think having hair is going to guarantee you success but I will agree with you it will help you in some circumstances when the women is attracted to a guy who has hair. True, you have to work harder than the full head but you still have a chance if you can engage and are interesting without projecting to the person you know she is going to leave you eventually for a full head. I lost out to plenty of balding men. The last girl who I lost out too ended dating a balding guy and marrying him. So If I believed in myself, I would have had a better chance. But I can't argue with you because you have been on the opposite side so you know better but I still don't think you would do so much better if you had hair. I would get a hair system and see what happens. If you are more successful than come back and let me know.

100% he will still struggle with hair, if I am struggling, and I am attractive for my ethnicity, he would too.

 

[doubleindemnity]

100% he will still struggle with hair, if I am struggling, and I am attractive for my ethnicity, he would too.

Struggling has a different meaning for everybody. Deontay Wilder struggled in his last few fights but competing for the world heavyweight championship isn't really struggling in my eyes. Arsenal are struggling but being in the premier league and out of the relegation spots isn't really struggling to me. You go on dates every week and get matches. That is already not struggling. You said that you could settle down if you wanted to. So you actually have a say in how your dating or marriage life goes? Guys like @Feelsbadman and myself who can not even pay to get a date are really struggling. Don't sugar coat it by saying "I am attractive for my ethnicity". Say it candidly. "I have hair".

Fair enough. You seem to know what works for you and doesn't. I was a full head and decent looking but I failed because of low self esteem and didn't have confidence to engage in conversation so the women would lose interest fast. So don't think having hair is going to guarantee you success but I will agree with you it will help you in some circumstances when the women is attracted to a guy who has hair. True, you have to work harder than the full head but you still have a chance if you can engage and are interesting without projecting to the person you know she is going to leave you eventually for a full head. I lost out to plenty of balding men. The last girl who I lost out too ended dating a balding guy and marrying him. So If I believed in myself, I would have had a better chance. But I can't argue with you because you have been on the opposite side so you know better but I still don't think you would do so much better if you had hair. I would get a hair system and see what happens. If you are more successful than come back and let me know.

If you think that I am wrong then go ahead and argue. But I have just called upon a bunch of my own experiences and generalized to form these views. That's obviously flawed reasoning but it's standard reasoning that humans use for all sorts of things. In my experience, a bald guy will not even get past 'hello' and on the apps he will run out of people to swipe. Even this stuff with the balding guy outcompeting you... was it recent or a few years ago? Also to correct your first sentence... I know what doesn't work for me. I don't know what does work for me but I think that hair restoration would. Too bad that I am a bad candidate for a hair transplant and scared to get a system.

 

[Oknow]

Struggling has a different meaning for everybody. Deontay Wilder struggled in his last few fights but competing for the world heavyweight championship isn't really struggling in my eyes. Arsenal are struggling but being in the premier league and out of the relegation spots isn't really struggling to me. You go on dates every week and get matches. That is already not struggling. You said that you could settle down if you wanted to. So you actually have a say in how your dating or marriage life goes? Guys like @Feelsbadman and myself who can not even pay to get a date are really struggling. Don't sugar coat it by saying "I am attractive for my ethnicity". Say it candidly. "I have hair".


If you think that I am wrong then go ahead and argue. But I have just called upon a bunch of my own experiences and generalized to form these views. That's obviously flawed reasoning but it's standard reasoning that humans use for all sorts of things. In my experience, a bald guy will not even get past 'hello' and on the apps he will run out of people to swipe. Even this stuff with the balding guy outcompeting you... was it recent or a few years ago? Also to correct your first sentence... I know what doesn't work for me. I don't know what does work for me but I think that hair restoration would. Too bad that I am a bad candidate for a hair transplant and scared to get a system.

I don’t actually go on dates every week, it’s more like once or twice a month

and to get them it’s super hard work

 

[Feelsbadman]

Struggling has a different meaning for everybody. Deontay Wilder struggled in his last few fights but competing for the world heavyweight championship isn't really struggling in my eyes. Arsenal are struggling but being in the premier league and out of the relegation spots isn't really struggling to me. You go on dates every week and get matches. That is already not struggling. You said that you could settle down if you wanted to. So you actually have a say in how your dating or marriage life goes? Guys like @Feelsbadman and myself who can not even pay to get a date are really struggling. Don't sugar coat it by saying "I am attractive for my ethnicity". Say it candidly. "I have hair".


If you think that I am wrong then go ahead and argue. But I have just called upon a bunch of my own experiences and generalized to form these views. That's obviously flawed reasoning but it's standard reasoning that humans use for all sorts of things. In my experience, a bald guy will not even get past 'hello' and on the apps he will run out of people to swipe. Even this stuff with the balding guy outcompeting you... was it recent or a few years ago? Also to correct your first sentence... I know what doesn't work for me. I don't know what does work for me but I think that hair restoration would. Too bad that I am a bad candidate for a hair transplant and scared to get a system.

these guys live in this country where they claim they see bald ugly guys with hot girls all the time @Oknow

so maybe thats why they dont understand us

 

[DoctorHouse]

Struggling has a different meaning for everybody. Deontay Wilder struggled in his last few fights but competing for the world heavyweight championship isn't really struggling in my eyes. Arsenal are struggling but being in the premier league and out of the relegation spots isn't really struggling to me. You go on dates every week and get matches. That is already not struggling. You said that you could settle down if you wanted to. So you actually have a say in how your dating or marriage life goes? Guys like @Feelsbadman and myself who can not even pay to get a date are really struggling. Don't sugar coat it by saying "I am attractive for my ethnicity". Say it candidly. "I have hair".


If you think that I am wrong then go ahead and argue. But I have just called upon a bunch of my own experiences and generalized to form these views. That's obviously flawed reasoning but it's standard reasoning that humans use for all sorts of things. In my experience, a bald guy will not even get past 'hello' and on the apps he will run out of people to swipe. Even this stuff with the balding guy outcompeting you... was it recent or a few years ago? Also to correct your first sentence... I know what doesn't work for me. I don't know what does work for me but I think that hair restoration would. Too bad that I am a bad candidate for a hair transplant and scared to get a system.

I think you should talk to Noah about systems and your fears more. I think he is best source you have on here. I know for sure I would do a system if I had to. Luckily I can work with the hair I have to look decent enough. But I certainly would get feedback from Noah on how to approach it. I know he advises to go to a very reputable place and let them do your first one. Then learn how to do it yourself.

 

[Oknow]

I think you should talk to Noah about systems and your fears more. I think he is best source you have on here. I know for sure I would do a system if I had to. Luckily I can work with the hair I have to look decent enough. But I certainly would get feedback from Noah on how to approach it. I know he advises to go to a very reputable place and let them do your first one. Then learn how to do it yourself.

i second this, @doubleindemnity how long are you going to continue to live this way?

You have three options:

- get a hair system
- try to date bald
- do nothing and continue to complain on here about how your baldness is holding you back

 

[Oknow]

these guys live in this country where they claim they see bald ugly guys with hot girls all the time @Oknow

so maybe thats why they dont understand us

@doubleindemnity lives in the same city as me

he just refuses to acknowledge it

 

[DoctorHouse]

@doubleindemnity lives in the same city as me

he just refuses to acknowledge it

I think the two of you should team up and go out just to see what happens and see if you can have his back and change the expected outcome he is used to seeing. I think it is possible.

 

[Oknow]

I think the two of you should team up and go out just to see what happens and see if you can have his back and change the expected outcome he is used to seeing. I think it is possible.

im not the best wingman for him, I’m not confident with cold approaching

had some bad experiences 10 years ago when I was doing it as a NW1 which I still haven’t got over

 

[DoctorHouse]

im not the best wingman for him, I’m not confident with cold approaching

had some bad experiences 10 years ago when I was doing it as a NW1 which I still haven’t got over

What? I thought you were confident? Now I am confused.

 

[Oknow]

What? I thought you were confident? Now I am confused.

No, like everyone, I have my hang ups too.

 

[Oknow]

What? I thought you were confident? Now I am confused.

confidence by the way is not something someone permanently has , people go in and out of feeling confident

the difference between @doubleindemnity and me is that I know deep down I can meet and date women. I trust the process.

When I have my droughts, I know deep down they will pass and things will get better. I also like myself more than he does and don’t place my whole self worth on what other people think of me.

@doubleindemnity is completely lost, very sad to see.

im also the type of person to be pragmatic when having difficulties, lots of people have given @doubleindemnity decent advise on how to deal with his insecurity but he stubbornly doesn’t listen - I would have got a hair system in his situation

 

[DoctorHouse]

confidence by the way is not something someone permanently has , people go in and out of feeling confident

the difference between @doubleindemnity and me is that I know deep down I can meet and date women. I trust the process.

When I have my droughts, I know deep down they will pass and things will get better. I also like myself more than he does and don’t place my whole self worth on what other people think of me.

@doubleindemnity is completely lost, very sad to see.

im also the type of person to be pragmatic when having difficulties, lots of people have given @doubleindemnity decent advise on how to deal with his insecurity but he stubbornly doesn’t listen - I would have got a hair system in his situation

I think it's best you just leave him be. Sometimes it's better to just do that. I realize I had to do the same with @Feelsbadman. I really don't have anything else I could say or do that will change his situation so maybe he might be right as there is no options for him. I know what it's like to feel like their is no options but I try my best to be open to ones and at least give them a try. I have this obsession to try to fix people and I realize sometimes in a virtual situation like this its actually a waste of time. Once in while it's just nice talk to someone who shares your same limiting beliefs so you don't feel so alone.

 

[Feelsbadman]

I think it's best you just leave him be. Sometimes it's better to just do that. I realize I had to do the same with @Feelsbadman. I really don't have anything else I could say or do that will change his situation so maybe he might be right as there is no options for him. I know what it's like to feel like their is no options but I try my best to be open to ones and at least give them a try. I have this obsession to try to fix people and I realize sometimes in a virtual situation like this its actually a waste of time. Once in while it's just nice talk to someone who shares your same limiting beliefs so you don't feel so alone.

its like if someorn is dying of terminal cancer
some people cant be fixed
like me
ugly short balding etc

 

[Oknow]

its like if someorn is dying of terminal cancer
some people cant be fixed
like me
ugly short balding etc

why don’t you get a hair system ?

 

[DoctorHouse]

its like if someorn is dying of terminal cancer
some people cant be fixed
like me
ugly short balding etc

Yeah but you can at least be there so they don't have to die alone. And you are right some people can't be fixed. I will disagree with you that a person that is ugly, short and balding has no chance because I have seen a few family members of mine overcome that obstacle and have nice looking wives who worship their husbands because they treat them well.

 

[Feelsbadman]

Yeah but you can at least be there so they don't have to die alone. And you are right some people can't be fixed. I will disagree with you that a person that is ugly, short and balding has no chance because I have seen a few family members of mine overcome that obstacle and have nice looking wives who worship their husbands because they treat them well.

sounds very blue pill

 

[DoctorHouse]

sounds very blue pill

I don't think I would color the situation. LOL! It is what it is. Come on, you are better than that. Who cares what color the damn pill is?

 

[Feelsbadman]

I don't think I would color the situation. LOL! It is what it is. Come on, you are better than that. Who cares what color the damn pill is?

In my experience the only time i see bald/ugly men with decent women is when they are married. Thus its obvious he is with him for security not because she is actually attracted to him. Probably barely gets sex.
Sometimes i miss having a girlfriend i dont even want to bang random girls that sh*t is unfulfilling. Having a gf is so much better but i dont think ill ever get the chance again
how can i cope

 

[Oknow]

In my experience the only time i see bald/ugly men with decent women is when they are married. Thus its obvious he is with him for security not because she is actually attracted to him. Probably barely gets sex.
Sometimes i miss having a girlfriend i dont even want to bang random girls that sh*t is unfulfilling. Having a gf is so much better but i dont think ill ever get the chance again
how can i cope

hair system