My fight against the inevitable----Using revivogen w/others

[Hate2LoseIt]

Well here it goes.. Im a 19 yr old african american male. Im an upcoming sophmore in college. Around 17 is when i first started noticing what i thought was mild thinning on the right side of my frontal hairline due to the way i would style my hair. I keep a low cesar cut and i used to use heavy pomade in order to get the wavy style going...anyway, over the years due to my ignorance, the mild thinning progressed and started diminishing my hairline on the right side, and then slowly it started on my left side also. The right side of my hairline is worse for some reason though. I guess because that side started thinning earliest.

Anyway I believe I have went from a Norwood 1 to a Norwood 1.5 :nono:

I remember when i first decided to do something about it when i had went to my barber to get my usual cut, and he blurted "DANG, Your starting to creep back in your hairline"!. Talk about your slap in the face.

Well I know its MBP cause my dad is a Norwood 5-6 and he is 43 years old. His twin brother is also like that. His dad is a 6 or 7. My grandmother has thinning hair on both sides of the family so i think im screwed.

ANWAY TO THE MAIN STUFF...

When i was 18 with thinning/receding hairline, my hairline would itch horribly! I would scratch and scratch wondering WTF! And also my crown would itch also, even though there is no hairloss there yet. I then knew what was going down because of those certain places kept itching. I read up on hair loss and remedies and all that crap, and I found propecia, but after reading up on it and thinking about it for nearly a month,....I decided not to get on that stuff because the though I have to take a drug everyday that screws with your hormones was not an option. But i knew i had to stop dht, so thats when i found revivogen.

I have been on revivogen for about 5 months and 1 week.
When I first started using it I didnt really notice anything, but after a few weeks I noticed the reduction of that damn itching sensation. I no longer scratched my head. Oh yeah back when i noticed my hairloss, my hair would come out every time I would pull at my hairline and scratch it. Also before I used revivogen, I had used nizoral for about a few weeks thinking it would cease my hairloss, but that was just wishful thinking....Anyway

For about 2 months i really didnt notice anything different in my hair besides no more itching or hair fallout...THen in about the 3 1/2 month mark my hair started going downhill as my hair seemed to recede even more and looked even worse. I felt like giving up and decided to buy propecia and rogaine because i felt like I was wasting my time. Then after some thought i decided not to use my propecia and just use rogaine with revivogen....after a week on rogaine i quit it because i would feel awful after using it. Like i would get headaches and a clouded head, also tiredeness. Also the application made my hair look like sh*t!...anyway I decided to tough it out on revivogen until the end as my main product...

Well Now i am 5 months and 1 week on revivogen, and today I have started to notice a bunch of white little hairs on the left side of my hairline and FEW on the right! I have maintained my mildly receded state on revivogen and my hair feels normal. I believe strongly believe revivogen is halting any further hairloss. No itching or hair fall out. Also About 2 weeks ago I have been on MSM, and a week ago on Biotin supplement. Also Yesterday i have started folligen because i need a growth stimulant. I also ordered emu oil which should arrive soon. If anyone knows of a good growth stimulant besides rogaine then please drop a line!!!!.

ANyway, I will post my pics when i get the chance in the near future.



P.S. anyone want to buy a pack of propecia, i got it from inhouse?

 

[Hate2LoseIt]

P.S.

My regimen-----

Revivogen at night before bed on hairline and crown.

Folligen at hairline mid-day

MSM supplement daily

Biotin supplement daily

I know i will get burned for this one-----but no/limited ejaculation

So No/Limited sex with a girl or your hand. But if i do slip it up, it will only be once a week. Right now im 5 days without messing with it, hoping to go 3 months cold turkey. Because I do believe at the moment there is a relation between your dick and hair loss because i remember at one time a year ago i went a month with no ejaculation and I swore my hair stopped itching around the hairline and crown and hair looked a whole lot better for some reason. And as much As i wish to not be true, I just have to find out and see... :hairy:

 

[ali777]

I know i will get burned for this one-----but no/limited ejaculation

So No/Limited sex with a girl or your hand. But if i do slip it up, it will only be once a week. Right now im 5 days without messing with it, hoping to go 3 months cold turkey. Because I do believe at the moment there is a relation between your dick and hair loss because i remember at one time a year ago i went a month with no ejaculation and I swore my hair stopped itching around the hairline and crown and hair looked a whole lot better for some reason. And as much As i wish to not be true, I just have to find out and see... :hairy:

I admire your persistence at the age of 19....

 

[amsch]

Thanks for posting your story!

I hope you'll keep us updated with your Revivogen Process.

greets

 

[zxAddict]

Theres not much in the way of stimulants besides minoxidil. Some of the grape seed extract in Revivogen is reported a stimulant and some copper peptides such as Tricomin and Folligen are supposed to provided some stimulation though minoxidil is still king I think.

 

[Hate2LoseIt]

Well, reporting back. Im almost seven months in on revivogen and folligen therapy spray. I lost my emu oil so screw it. :thumbdown2:

Hair still looks the same 2 me, It could be worse or better?nots sure,, i cant really tell if its getting any better from my last post or not. I wish i would have taken pictures!!!!!!!!!

Anyway its looking solid in my opinion, which is great as for maintenance.


Overall
Either my left hairline is thickening up or my barber cut further into my hairline lol....the right still looks receded/thin, but i get by.

P.s. I have now started with toppik, and it is GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......confidence restored in a matter of minutes. I look like my old self almost lol..

no more hats when i throw this stuff on!...first day i used it i was talking to as many girls as possible. FELT GOOD!... Thumbs up to this concealer.

p.s. i rock a buzz cut. i will try and get pics up here soon.

 

[Hate2LoseIt]

Well reporting back again, hmmmm, hair seems the same, maybe a tiny bit worse but im probally just making it up. So nothing has really changed with my hair.

About 3 weeks ago I decided to take the propecia i have at .05

The reason I decided to was because I really didnt like the state my hair is in, even though it really hasnt changed much recently, but it is worse from when I was 17 with my thinning hairline and temples. So after a day of groaning i said BUMP IT, and popped the pill, and for three days I used it thinking Im doing all that i can do and everything seemed fine until...... DUM DUM DUM!!!!!!!!!!!......My dick couldnt get hard!...I was llke WTF? My junk did not feel the same at all, It felt like it was just something attached to my body and i had no control over it!......It just lifelessly hung in my pants.

That day I tried to think about sexy girls.....

NOTHING

At books a Million I took a peek at smooth magazine with all there sexy women.....

NOTHING

I even took it the next level and went against my morals and checked out some p**rn (all girl) :woot: ......................

A lil something, but not like Normal, It seemed like it was fighting to stand up, very weak considering I was watching some hardcore stuff.




I Immediately STOPPED TAKING THE PILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THis stuff is NOT for me, I couldnt care Less If it grew back a Perfect Juvenile Norwood 1, IT just aint worth it!

Whats the point when you cant satisfy the girl or yourself?.......so after a week of abandoning propecia, My dick Seems Back to normal at full FORCE and HARD AS A ROCK!!!!!......aaah, good ol morning woods.

Maybe this is only temporary and goes away after a couple of weeks? who knows? I dont, and dont care. Anything that has that much effect on your manhood, even if temporary, is not worth it IMO.

So im still on revivogen and maintaining......but if things go down the shitter for my hair, I will consider using the propecia as a last effort, but if that first week crap doesnt wear off, then I will have to accept my destiny and just live.

 

[zxAddict]

Hmmm well, finasteride is like poison to some people (such as myself) and others swear that it causes them no problems so everyone is different. I use Revivogen and Fluridil to maintain as my main treatments and minoxidil as a stimulant. So far my hair is nearly back to finasteride days and maintaining after 4-5 months so thats got to be worth having.

 

[Hate2LoseIt]

well been gone for a while.......... I quit revivogen as I thought it wasnt worth using. I quit in november of 08,.. I think i was persuaded by other members on this forum and threw away my bottles.... Now that i look back on it,..i was on revivo for 8 months and it MAINTAINED..... I didnt see any regrowth but it definitely halted/slowed down my loss considerably. ..

about a month or two after quitting, my hair retreated into my hairline as it thinned making the " V " more defined.....

Bottom line...I honestly believe that revivogen is not a total bunk and is actually moderately effective in doing its job.

I am back on it,..1 month to be exact..... and 3 months on emu oil twice a day.

Im def. gonna post pics 2morrow.

Im also going to get on rogaine foam when it arrives

My regimen----
emu oil in the morning
rogaine foam mid-day
revivogen at night

every third day nizoral

on the occassion I will spray folligen therapy spray.

 

[zxAddict]

Yeah, well my loss has stopped. But in addition to Revivogen evenings I'm using minoxidil with hairmuck, fluridil and nizoral.

 

[Whoop]

Interesting story! :bravo: Please keep updating and show us some pics!

 

[CCS]

I masterbate 2x per day. No itching ever since using nizoral. My hair loss has stopped. I know lots of NW1's who have sex every day and don't go bald.

 

[Hate2LoseIt]

Damn..damn...damn damn, DAMN!!

Im starting to come to the realization that propecia / rogaine may be the only effective treatments available :thumbdown2:

*Sigh* This sucks.

Since the start of my figh (first post) my hairline has receded 3/4 of an inch .

This is bullshit.

From the time i had quit revivogen in november of '08, I have tried an assortment of treatments..

First lets start with the spironolactone.

I had used the spironolactone and this might be a solid one to keep in a regimen. I was on it for 3 months and stopped due to the no availablity of it on gourmetstylewellness.com...I do believe this thickened up my hairline. But like i said, I stopped.

I also used A&G hair complex. This was the one That i had high hopes for, but just as high as they were, those hopes quickly came crashing down to a feeling Im oh so ever used to...dissapointment. Vellus (is that how its spelled?) hairs popping up on the hairline. Too bad thats as far as the progress had gotten before returning to baseline.

Last but not least...(but close to being least) SCALPURE...
Used it and even though It thickened my hair cosmetically. I do not believe it actually does anything for hairloss/ or maybe regrowth. Maybe it does battle male pattern baldness...just dont go expecting regrowth from it. I was on this for a couple of months before money became a problem and had to stop.

ALL in all ...its hard to have total faith in these product and trust them to preserve your hair, as battling male pattern baldness is a time sensitive war, and you need to be sure your sh*t is working.


SOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo, as of now Im not using anyhthing and letting my hair recede ..FOR NOW.
I plan on getting on a solid regimen, one that does not include propecia aka penis silencer..or rogaine aka foam poison.

I probably will order the Product DERMAHEAL as i have heard some good things on it. and also will use sprio in conjuction with it because spironolactone does work in my opinion. I am also rubbing my nails like a retard (at least that is how i feel). The method is called balayam but i sure hope it works magically. I actually have been balayaming for close to 3 months. dont know what it has done for my hair, but ...ya know.

anyway. planning on dermaheal and spironolactone and willl keep a detailed log month to month with pics.

 

[Hate2LoseIt]

So now my current regimen is....

Fluridil (been using for 2 weeks so far)
HairChi (tested it for a month about a month and a half ago, will start 2morrow)
Ketoconolazone Cream 2% ( waiting on it to arrive )
Adenogen (Adenosine) ( waiting on it to arrive )
TB4-7 Peptide Cream ( waiting on it to arrive )
Folligen spray ( been using for 2 weeks so far).



This is probably my last go at spending money on treatments.

I decided on the fluridil because of it androgen destroying effects, studies, science.. I expect a degree of maintenence with this and hopefully some thickening. I USE IT EVERY OTHER DAY BECAUSE it is the b**ch of all topicals.

I decided on HairCHi because of a recommendation from DoctorHouse and because of the ingredients in the product. also its ease of use as it is a foam. It claims to have anti dht ingredients and works to help repair cell health. Anyway I really like the ingredients as i needed something that battled dht with an assortment of "healthy ingredients".. other than the solo chemical in fluridil. Use it Everyday.

Keto Cream. I decided on this based on the french study and the amazing regrowth one guy had in it. Antifungal, i take it as it fight the dandruff and overalll health of the scalp of where it is applied....Somehow this is an antiandrogen and growth stimulant. Im really not sure how it works, but since nizoral shampoo is favorable for most,...then the cream might be a big winner in what it does for seb. demrititas?? and scalp health and somehow helps subdue male pattern baldness by a mechanism i cant explain. Also the cream is left on for a longer period of time then when you shampoo. The study though is what did it me. Will use it everday after I shower.

I decided on adenogen cause of its good reviews and its main ingredient adenosine. This ingredient is comparable to minoxidil in the "stimulant category". Very good for vellus hairs. I have heard reviews of maintenance and some regrowth on adenogen. I know other products have adenosine in its ingredients but i figure adenogen Has the Formula "just right" for it to actually be effective. I believe that they probably have combined the other ingredients they have to make adenosine effective or more effective, then with others such as spectral ds/rs. I dunno , but i was on dermenoned for a while which had i high concentration of adenosine and that gave me some awful side effects.

Folligen spray....well i use this because i have a big *** bottle lying around from a couple of years ago and though >.."what the hell " ... i spray this green crap on my head every other day.


And last and hopefully , not least...Is The tb4-7 complex. This is rather experimental and new. I ordered from adistem actisem. It is a sythetic analouge of the Tb4 enzyme? is it an enzyme? not sure...but anyway. TB4 is very good for regrowth as people have experimented with it before. the sythetic analouge of it was used by adistem and injected in the scalps on some humans and they had Super regrowth not sure if the cream would work topically but we will find out in the coming months as i use it.

Well that all for now... will update as time goes along.
This is as solid of a regiment i could get without propecia and minoxidil.. Overtime i will figure which one of these treatment are actually helpful or worthless and will be adding others or dropping depending on how things go in 6 months .

My core treatments are FLURIDL, ADENOGEN, nizoral CREAM...others r questionable.

 

[Boondock]

You've got a very shotgun approach to hair loss, and seem to be throwing as much as possible at it in the hope that something will work. I'm surprised you haven't tried low-level laser therapy (i.e. the laser helmet). This seems to have at least some science behind it, and some people claiming results.

 

[Hate2LoseIt]

Right now IM on terminal 1 and 2 from elsoms research. My hair is not in a good state at the moment. recession is getting stronger.

Ive beeen on terminals for 2 and half months.
Im also using regenepure shampoo (ketoconazole) EOD
Also I was using bioclin advance STIMUCAP for about 2 months. DOnt know what it was doing but i stopped.

Been on miconazole nitrate for about a month. After all of this I dont know what works and what doesnt as I havent given enough time on anything in my life except for revivogen.

I plan to phase out the terminals and I am adding DERMAHEAL. ALONG WITH S5 cream if it ever comes in stock. ALso miconazole nitrate. THis will be my regimen for the next year

spironolactone (for adrogen receptors/ dht)
DERMAHEAL (for follicle cell health and stimulating regrowth due to mimicking growth factor peptides)
MICONAZOLE NITRATE (for whatever it does)
Regenepure shampoo ( for ketoconazole effects )

1 full year I will stay committed :hump:

 

[Hate2LoseIt]

Well....just an update. Im now on the big 3 .


LMAO.. guess i finally got tired of dicking around with hairloss. It seems like this is generally what happens. when you first experience some hairloss you try a bunch of different stuff until you get sick of bullshiting. Ive finally came to my senses and fighting with the reliable, proven methods.

 

[Mens Rea]

Well....just an update. Im now on the big 3 .


LMAO.. guess i finally got tired of dicking around with hairloss. It seems like this is generally what happens. when you first experience some hairloss you try a bunch of different stuff until you get sick of bullshiting. Ive finally came to my senses and fighting with the reliable, proven methods.

watch the propecia sides closely mate they can creep up on you over time