To start, I'm new to this forum and have been battling hairloss since I was 18. I started on finasteride about 6 months after an extreme shed was on it for 14 months straight and then on and off a few times again after. I can say that, in terms of hair growth, I am extremely successful with finasteride. In terms of side effects I'm very very unfortunate. I had almost every side effect you could name top to bottom, main ones being weak erections, brain fog, and depression. And there's not a chance of it being placebo. I went on at 18 rxd from my dermatologist without even thinking twice or doing a single Internet search. First two months I saw literally unbelievable growth. I noticed the side effects on the third month when went to have sex with a very hot girl and not only weirdly was nervous about it before, but couldn't get hard for the life of me and she was begging for it... anyways I said to myself what the f... and it was like a eureka moment I released I hadn't jacked off even 1 time since I started propecia. It ****ed my libido so bad that I didn't even realise I wasn't horny lol. I stuck with it though.
About 2 months after that (4 months on) my libido came even stronger than before. Every girl I saw I wanted to bang and when I was with my girlfriend I had all I could think or talk about was sex. From month 4-6 everything was perfect.
At month 6, everything went bad. My erections were 70% as hard, and I had very bad premature ejaculation. I would bust in 3-5 minutes on a good day... embarrassing to say how quick on most days.
Month 6 to 9 were the same and I'm going to remind you again that there no chance of this being placebo. My girlfriend wasn't complaining about the sex at all, and I was still getting off. To month 10 I hadn't searched finasteride or propecia on Google 1 time. Had no idea of any potential side effects, etc. (All of this from month 1-9 is me talking of sides in hindsight)
Month 10 is when she said that sex is different. The year before propecia I could have sex for 45 mins and the day she said that is when it all clicked. I did some Internet research and realized what I had been doing to myself. We broke up soon after that and since then I went back on finasteride 3 times. Each for about a month and half each, and quit each time because of weak errections and brain fog. Each time I noticed my hair thickened. And I know some will say that it's impossible to see results in a month and a half... and if I didn't see it on myself I'd agree with you. I'm not talking a little thicker, maybe, maybe not. I'm talking night and day, thinning vs not thinning at all.
Anyways here I am now 3 years later. I have a very good job make well in to 6 figures a year and projecting 200% increase for fiscal 16. Hairloss has kind of taken a backseat. It used to be all I thought about, but I realise hair or no hair ambition is what gets me by on the day to day. I am thankful to have recovered from finasteride.
BTW I recently experimented with saw palmetto, I didn't notice any hair thickening at all but my errections were about 85% for the month on and 3 weeks after I quit. I also want to mention that after the last time I tried finasteride (at a very low dose of .1 eod) I noticed anxiety that lasted for 30 days after I quit and I took 25mg of clomiphene citrate (clomid) for 4 weeks and it got my hormones and libido back in order, for anyone looking for a last resort to finasteride sides.
On to my question about revivogen. Is there any chance of this (mainly saw palmetto) going systemic? I like the thought of azelaic acid and such blocking dht locally, but I just want to hear some opinions on how concurrent the word locally can actually be forgone. You can put testosterone jell on your shoulders that goes systemic and increases Testosterone 3 fold, and minoxidil u apply to the head can go systemic so why wouldn't androgens you put on the scalp go systemic?
I really am hoping revivogen won't give me side effects, as it is extensively marketed to having the same effect as propecia but with no chance of side effects. But I just dont see how it's possible to have zero chance. Whether I get a lot of help with this question or not, I've ordered the revivogen to find out for myself but I just want some reassurances... more or less.
About 2 months after that (4 months on) my libido came even stronger than before. Every girl I saw I wanted to bang and when I was with my girlfriend I had all I could think or talk about was sex. From month 4-6 everything was perfect.
At month 6, everything went bad. My erections were 70% as hard, and I had very bad premature ejaculation. I would bust in 3-5 minutes on a good day... embarrassing to say how quick on most days.
Month 6 to 9 were the same and I'm going to remind you again that there no chance of this being placebo. My girlfriend wasn't complaining about the sex at all, and I was still getting off. To month 10 I hadn't searched finasteride or propecia on Google 1 time. Had no idea of any potential side effects, etc. (All of this from month 1-9 is me talking of sides in hindsight)
Month 10 is when she said that sex is different. The year before propecia I could have sex for 45 mins and the day she said that is when it all clicked. I did some Internet research and realized what I had been doing to myself. We broke up soon after that and since then I went back on finasteride 3 times. Each for about a month and half each, and quit each time because of weak errections and brain fog. Each time I noticed my hair thickened. And I know some will say that it's impossible to see results in a month and a half... and if I didn't see it on myself I'd agree with you. I'm not talking a little thicker, maybe, maybe not. I'm talking night and day, thinning vs not thinning at all.
Anyways here I am now 3 years later. I have a very good job make well in to 6 figures a year and projecting 200% increase for fiscal 16. Hairloss has kind of taken a backseat. It used to be all I thought about, but I realise hair or no hair ambition is what gets me by on the day to day. I am thankful to have recovered from finasteride.
BTW I recently experimented with saw palmetto, I didn't notice any hair thickening at all but my errections were about 85% for the month on and 3 weeks after I quit. I also want to mention that after the last time I tried finasteride (at a very low dose of .1 eod) I noticed anxiety that lasted for 30 days after I quit and I took 25mg of clomiphene citrate (clomid) for 4 weeks and it got my hormones and libido back in order, for anyone looking for a last resort to finasteride sides.
On to my question about revivogen. Is there any chance of this (mainly saw palmetto) going systemic? I like the thought of azelaic acid and such blocking dht locally, but I just want to hear some opinions on how concurrent the word locally can actually be forgone. You can put testosterone jell on your shoulders that goes systemic and increases Testosterone 3 fold, and minoxidil u apply to the head can go systemic so why wouldn't androgens you put on the scalp go systemic?
I really am hoping revivogen won't give me side effects, as it is extensively marketed to having the same effect as propecia but with no chance of side effects. But I just dont see how it's possible to have zero chance. Whether I get a lot of help with this question or not, I've ordered the revivogen to find out for myself but I just want some reassurances... more or less.