Nizoral

[follicle84]

I've been reading from some that Nizoral may be too harsh on your hair. What do they mean? Is it slightly acidic or something? And why would it be bad in any manner when it supposedly improves your hair?

I've found no evidence of it being acidic. It is however true that it dries the hair and scalp. This is because it reduces sebum in your scalp. Sebum is needed to moisturise the scalp and hair and without it your scalp and hair is left dry.


Good points

-prevents sebum clogging dht in the scalp.
-Kills bacteria which can lead to inflammation and prevent hair growth.
-weak androgen (supposivelly)
-stimulant similair to 2%minoxidil (see above post)

Bad points

-dries the scalp and hair making it look fried
-shedding (lots)
-can irritate the scalp if used too much
-can cause similair side effect as minoxidil (light headedness, rapid heart beat)

Furthernote

-shedding is normal and starts to subside after a few weeks of use.
-use twice a week.
-leave it on for 5mins before washing it out.
-dont use too much of it (two small drops)

Eh...not interested then. My hair is dry as hell the way it is now

Wash nizoral out with conditioner and use brylcreme. It returns moisture to the scalp and hair and keeps it looking thick. I have no problems since doing this.

 

[Vigaku]

2 small drops? :dunno:

Anyway...I'll see. I mean, three times I cleanse with shampoo and rinse when I shower. I think I do a pretty good job getting the sebum out that Nizoral might not make a big difference...and even when I used to apply olive oil the morning, after the night I apply minoxidil (which I would to 15-20 minutes prior to a shower that morning) My hair later on ends up being to hard to comb because of it's natural curling. I've stopped using olive oil and it's a little tougher. From this I do not see how applying conditioner and other stuff after using Nizoral will make a difference. Nizoral kinda iz scaring.

 

[follicle84]

The drops expand when left on your hand for a few seconds it should roughly fill a patch on your palm equivalent to the end of a table spoon.

Conditioner for me greatly reduced the drying effect that nizoral leaves on my scalp. I use brylcreme now too and it stops my hair looking weak and fried which is what happened when i first started using nizoral without any extras. Furthermore i dont shed too much now but i do shed slightly but it doesnt bother me as it doesnt make my hair look any worse. I should note that brylcreme may improve the potency of absorbtion with minoxidil. Take care doing this as it can be dangerous since there will be an increased risk of side effects.

 

[Vigaku]

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How might brylcreme do that...damn, I thought of just using conditioner after the nizoral but brylcreme might enhance min absorption later on too?!

Hey, isn't the sebum's purpose to moisten the hair a bit. If you use conditioner and brylcreme, wouldn't it kinda null the point of using the nizoral? Your hair is back to be moisty like it was without the nizoral, so...

Or is it just the sebum that is bad because it mixes with DHT?

Oh and one last thing, can someone inform me about the TYPES of Nizoral? I heard there was a 2% and so on.

 

[Vigaku]

Uhh...help?

I have two questions about this incredibly awesome shampoo.

1. I've read this comes in a 1% and 2%...is this true? How many different kinds of Nizoral are there?

2. I've heard from some places it's over the counter. Others say it's not available over the counter. A shampoo, not available over the counter? :dunno: :shakehead:

Edit: You know what nvm, I've become boring to some. I'll try to spend more time doing research than asking from people who probably already know.

P.S there are two different versions. 2% requires a pre. lol dumb. might as well make Propecia over the counter and Proscar not, because Propecia is essentially "Proscar-lite"

 

[follicle84]

I think you can get 1% over the counter but you need a prescription for 2%. Might be different depending on what country you are in.

 

[Vigaku]

This may be my last question...

This is for 2x a week use right? Because this is perfect for me. I wash my hair out and apply minoxidil 2X a week.

 

[follicle84]

How might brylcreme do that...damn, I thought of just using conditioner after the nizoral but brylcreme might enhance min absorption later on too?!

Yes brylcreme is meant to be like a direct transporter to the follicle from what i have read. Petroleum jelly is another one. I'll try and find you a link if i can find one. I should mention however its said to be dangerous using it in conjunction with minoxidil. I personally dont use minoxidil.

Hey, isn't the sebum's purpose to moisten the hair a bit. If you use conditioner and brylcreme, wouldn't it kinda null the point of using the nizoral? Your hair is back to be moisty like it was without the nizoral, so...

Correct that is sebums purpose and to protect the hair. However dht cause the sebaceous glands (where sebum is produced) to enlarge and produce too much sebum which can clog up the pores trapping bacteria feeding sebum inside the follicles. The result of which is inflammation and irritation of the scalp. Nizorals purpose is to wipe out the bacteria and infection and unclog the pores (preventing inflammation) with the potential added bonus of being a stimulant and weak androgen that can possibly help restore your hair.

Or is it just the sebum that is bad because it mixes with DHT?

Some believe it clogs dht at the follicle further accelarating male pattern baldness. This supposivelly happens due to excess sebum being produced so much in fact that it finds its way back into the hair follicle. I remain skeptical of this. I've heard too many contrasting reports from doctors saying it does or doesnt.

Just so you know the idea of using conditioner after nizoral is to just restore a little bit of the moisture that sebum naturally produces to protect your hair from drying and breaking. You dont have to worry about this being counter productive because the cause of the inflammation contributing to your hairloss (bacteria, sebum clogging, dht) has been dealt with by nizoral. A little moisture is good for the hair and scalp.

I should mention i dont use brylcreme every day as that could make my hair greasy after using conditioner. In order i wash my hair with nizoral leave it for a bit then wash it out with conditioner. If my hair looks dry at any point i use brylcreme until my scalp restores its natural sebum.

 

[follicle84]

My bottle of nizoral (2%) instructs me to use its once or twice a week and using it more times than this wont bring any further benefits. This is in reference to fungal and inflammation problems. It doesnt state that it helps with hairloss but there has been numerous reports that prove it can help with hairloss.

 

[Vigaku]

Thanks, I'm getting the 1% because it doesn't require a gay prescription.

 

[Nuli]

You can get a prescription for the 2% from dr.lee's website or most of the places where you can buy propecia online sell it without a script.If you wanna use the 2% that is.

 

[Vigaku]

I'll try the 1% and see how it goes. For the record having to have a prescription for a shampoo is priceless. That's probably (to me) one of the funniest things having to do with hair care.

 

[monitoradiation]

What is this brylcreme? Is it a conditioner or a gel/pomade?

 

[follicle84]

Its a gel.

 

[decro435]

Follllykilll , you know what you said about Brylcreme , could you please find a study to back that up?

I ask this because I've read at least two stories online of men that used Brylcreem religiously and have kept their hair well into their 80's. Here is one example:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l?ITO=1490

F*cking Norwood 1 and he's in his 80's. Now this could just as easily be his genes. I just wanted to point it out.

 

[Vigaku]

Let's see, it's...100% obviously his genes, because brylcreme has jack in it that can fight androgens or reduce dht-containing sebum, as far as I'm concerned.

The person who made that article would have something if he posted pictures of his dad, his mom's dad and her brothers, bald. But yeah. no. Lucky *** bastard with good genes.

 

[follicle84]

I understand the no hairloss bit being in the genes but not even graying. Wtf that is legend. Lucky b******. It could be coincidence but i've read a few stories in the paper about old people using brylcreme and keeping a good head of hair. I do believe brylcreme may be beneficial to the scalp and hair in some way but not in the way we think. I think it probably keeps the scalp healthy and moisturised and protects against inflammation to some extent but thats my guess. I'll try and find more info about it.

 

[follicle84]

I cant get access to any studies with brylcreme doing these things. The closet i got is the link below.

http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar...increases+absorbtion+of+the+scalp&btnG=Search

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Minoxidil_-_Side-effects/id/1770482

I did however find a user of both minoxidil and brylcreme. See link

http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=46096

Furthermore i did find some evidence that suggests petroleum jelly does what i said brycreme would do.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=FsTJIOgt3RIC&pg=PA439&lpg=PA439&dq=petroleum+jelly+

and its mentioned to be potentially harmful with minoxidil. Check link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoxidil

I should note that brycreme is partially made up from mineral oil. Mineral oil is liquid petroleum. A substance found in petroleum jelly.


Here's more methods for minoxidil absorbtion (check drug interactions bit)

http://www.drugs.com/ppa/minoxidil.html

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hair...lcreme+increases+absorbtion&btnG=Search&meta=

and another one using emu oil which google suggests with many links.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=em...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

 

[kamisama]

hi all ive just started on Nizoral 2%. however after wash while towel-drying my hair, i saw small dandruff-like thing on my hair. why is this so?

 

[shootingguard]

In Canada you can only get the 2% version in drug stores...we're pretty much all lumberjacks and hockey players though, so our scalps might be tougher.

In any case, I've been using the 2% three times/week (Mon,Wed,Fri) for less than a month and feel that my scalp is a lot less oily after my wash.