Not Going To Take finasteride To Risky For My Health In The Long Run
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It is hard making a decision to take finasteride or not this is what this forum is for people like me
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I was kidding. I take finasteride. I don't have any side effects. Get on finasteride. It is one of the safest medicines on the market. Nothing bad is going to happen. You will be glad you did. You will regret if you don't and then go bald.
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Ok I will think about it
LOOOOOOOL bro, be careful stating your opinions on finasteride on this forum, these f*****g neanderthals will eat you up, for disrespecting the same drug that's probably ruining their lives. Trust me, I tried to give these brain washed c**** some words of advice to cope until they get a hair transplant or save money for a treatment, and until then to work on their bodies and improving other areas of their life, and honestly they made me out like I hacked their mother to death.
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You need to be on finasteride to get a hair transplant. Without finasteride usage, no ethical hair transplant doctor will even consider performing a hair restoration procedure due to the great likelihood of future loss. Hell, most of them still won't perform it on young guys even if they do take finasteride. That's because you need to save as much of your native hair as you can for a hair transplant to work. They can only spread around the hair in the back so much so if you forego finasteride and wait until your hair loss stabilizes or you go completely NW7 slick bald, you won't be able to get much coverage or density. Finasteride IS the treatment, so I don't know why you say "save money for a treatment" because Propecia is the treatment for male pattern baldness.
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I feel like you're bipolar. Your mood swings couple of times a day.
At the end of the day, the choices are two - risk taking fina or risk losing your hair (chances of losing hair are much higher than chances of getting sides btw). We can't and shouldn't make the choice for you, you're a grown man
At the end of the day, the choices are two - risk taking fina or risk losing your hair (chances of losing hair are much higher than chances of getting sides btw). We can't and shouldn't make the choice for you, you're a grown man
Do you have a link?
Neuroactive steroid levels and psychiatric and andrological features in post-finasteride patients. - PubMed - NCBI
"...Eight out of sixteen subjects (50%) sufferred from a DSM-IV major depressive disorder (MDD) as diagnossed by MINI. BDI and BAI of subjects with MDD, as compared with those without the disorder are shown in Table 2 showing significant higher levels for those with MDD. All patients (100%) showed some degree of ED, with a mean score at erectile fucntion domain of 10.31 (+/-9.48) (Table 3). In particular, we found 10 men with severe ED (62.50%) and six with mild-moderate forms (37.50%). Although a clear cut off for normal values was not proposed in the literature for other IIEF-15 domains, our patients showed a low score also for orgasmic function, sexual desire and overall satisfaction domains, compared to general population [48] (Table 3)."
"...As reported in Table 4, the levels of some neuroactive steroids analysed in CSF of PFS patients were significantly different versus those in healthy controls. In particular, the levels of PREG, as well as of its further metabolites, PROG and DHP, were significantly decreased in CSF of PFS patients. On the contrary, the levels of DHEA and T were significantly increased. The levels of metabolites of T, such as DHT, 3a-diol, and 17b-estradiol (17b-E) were also affected in CSF of PFS patients. In particular, we reported a decrease in the levels of DHT and 17b-E, associated with an increase in the 3a-diol levels. Assessment of the levels of neuroactive steroids in plasma of PFS patients showed similarities and dissimilarities in comparison to what observed in CSF. Thus, the pattetn in plasma did not exactly reflect what observed in CSF. In particular, at variance to what observed in CSF, the plasma levels of PREG were significantly increased. In addition, the levels of PROG and T metabolites, such as DHT, 3a-diol, and 17b-E, were unaffected in plasma of PFS patients. Furthermore, the levels of THP that were unaffected in CSF, showed a significant decreased in plasma. In agreement to what observed in CSF, the plasma levels of DHEA and T showed a significant increase and those of DHP a significant decrease."
"...We also reported abnormal somatosensory evoked potential of the pudental nerve in PFS patients with severe ED, the first objective evidence of a neuropathy involving peripheral neurogenic control of erection. We have presented the first objective evidence in PFS patients of peripheral neuropathy of the pudental nerve, which is critical for normal neurogenic control of erection. PN_SEP abnormalities were found in 25% of PFS patients, in spite of normal neurological examination and no prior history of neurological disease. Moreover, no evidence of metabolic, toxic (e.g. alcohol abuse), or inherited disease known to be associated with peripheral nervous system damage which might be correlated with PN_SEPs alterations was detected."
"...It is important to highlight that as mentioned above, a signfiicant decrease in the levels of PROG was observed in the CSF of PFS patients. This may suggest a possible association between this neuroactive steroids and MDD symptomatology. Indeed, a role of PROG in depressive symptomatology associated to different pathologies has already been proposed [53]. Larger studies are warranted to further evaluate the role of CSF PROG levels in PFS patients with MDD."
"...Another importan finding here reported is that the effect of finasteride on neuroactive steroid levels do not only affect the levels of 5a-reduced metabolites of PROG and T (i.e., DHP and DHT respectively) and further metabolites (i.e. THP), but also PROG and T themselves, as well as their precursor (i.e. PREG, and DHEA). Thus, finasteride treatment has broad consequences on neuroactive steroid levels."
"...Eight out of sixteen subjects (50%) sufferred from a DSM-IV major depressive disorder (MDD) as diagnossed by MINI. BDI and BAI of subjects with MDD, as compared with those without the disorder are shown in Table 2 showing significant higher levels for those with MDD. All patients (100%) showed some degree of ED, with a mean score at erectile fucntion domain of 10.31 (+/-9.48) (Table 3). In particular, we found 10 men with severe ED (62.50%) and six with mild-moderate forms (37.50%). Although a clear cut off for normal values was not proposed in the literature for other IIEF-15 domains, our patients showed a low score also for orgasmic function, sexual desire and overall satisfaction domains, compared to general population [48] (Table 3)."
"...As reported in Table 4, the levels of some neuroactive steroids analysed in CSF of PFS patients were significantly different versus those in healthy controls. In particular, the levels of PREG, as well as of its further metabolites, PROG and DHP, were significantly decreased in CSF of PFS patients. On the contrary, the levels of DHEA and T were significantly increased. The levels of metabolites of T, such as DHT, 3a-diol, and 17b-estradiol (17b-E) were also affected in CSF of PFS patients. In particular, we reported a decrease in the levels of DHT and 17b-E, associated with an increase in the 3a-diol levels. Assessment of the levels of neuroactive steroids in plasma of PFS patients showed similarities and dissimilarities in comparison to what observed in CSF. Thus, the pattetn in plasma did not exactly reflect what observed in CSF. In particular, at variance to what observed in CSF, the plasma levels of PREG were significantly increased. In addition, the levels of PROG and T metabolites, such as DHT, 3a-diol, and 17b-E, were unaffected in plasma of PFS patients. Furthermore, the levels of THP that were unaffected in CSF, showed a significant decreased in plasma. In agreement to what observed in CSF, the plasma levels of DHEA and T showed a significant increase and those of DHP a significant decrease."
"...We also reported abnormal somatosensory evoked potential of the pudental nerve in PFS patients with severe ED, the first objective evidence of a neuropathy involving peripheral neurogenic control of erection. We have presented the first objective evidence in PFS patients of peripheral neuropathy of the pudental nerve, which is critical for normal neurogenic control of erection. PN_SEP abnormalities were found in 25% of PFS patients, in spite of normal neurological examination and no prior history of neurological disease. Moreover, no evidence of metabolic, toxic (e.g. alcohol abuse), or inherited disease known to be associated with peripheral nervous system damage which might be correlated with PN_SEPs alterations was detected."
"...It is important to highlight that as mentioned above, a signfiicant decrease in the levels of PROG was observed in the CSF of PFS patients. This may suggest a possible association between this neuroactive steroids and MDD symptomatology. Indeed, a role of PROG in depressive symptomatology associated to different pathologies has already been proposed [53]. Larger studies are warranted to further evaluate the role of CSF PROG levels in PFS patients with MDD."
"...Another importan finding here reported is that the effect of finasteride on neuroactive steroid levels do not only affect the levels of 5a-reduced metabolites of PROG and T (i.e., DHP and DHT respectively) and further metabolites (i.e. THP), but also PROG and T themselves, as well as their precursor (i.e. PREG, and DHEA). Thus, finasteride treatment has broad consequences on neuroactive steroid levels."
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Hey I wish you good luck I hope you grow alot of hair
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Why you hate finasteride so much did you have really bad sides
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no one can tell you that
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your hair right now is better than mine was when I was 17 (and i considered myself as having decent hair) if you are losing it, it will only become obvious by the time you are late 50's or something. if even. what I'm saying is, it's extremely fine and normal for your age. your nearly 29. that is 100% normal hair for your age. definitely not premature balding like the majority of us. If I had your hair, hair loss wouldn't even be on the radar. like I said, when I was 17, my hair was worse than yours, but I didn't even think about baldness. If/when you start to rapidly diffuse thin, then that's good cause for worry. for now, if you wanted my advice, just take photos of your hairline every couple of months. so yeah, even if you decide against finasteride, the good news is that I don't even think you need it. Again, just my opinion.
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WE'RE ALL GONNA FUCKIN MAKE IT BRAH!!!!!!!!
Baldingat188
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True but depressing . I'm on finasteride but likely will continue to go bald anyways and a hair piece is always back up.