Ot. Women Hypergamy Statement True Or False?

[hairblues]

I thought exactly the same ^^

A makeup artist I had hired for one night not an employee.
i phrased it weird with 'my' should have said 'a'

 

[Dench57]

how hard is make-up really though girls? i don't understand this sh*t at all and honestly its one of the many reasons I'm glad I'm male

both my sisters and all girlfriends have gone through this whole ordeal before going out of making themselves "beautiful" with an endless list of skincare products, make-up, blusher, eyeliner, lipstick, (forgot the names to all the others but there are many more)

and every girl I've been with I find more attractive without make-up, first thing in the morning or straight out the shower. like guys on here who say "she's a 8 with make-up but a 5 without" like its such a big deception. nah, you can see how hot a girl is through make-up. if she's using that much make-up that it distorts her face then you KNOW she ugly

i literally shower and brush my teeth, maybe spray some deodorant on dem dere armpits, and hope the Lord of Norwood, first of his name, shines favorably upon my fragile combover

 

[hairblues]

how hard is make-up really though girls? i don't understand this sh*t at all and honestly its one of the many reasons I'm glad I'm male

both my sisters and all girlfriends have gone through this whole ordeal before going out of making themselves "beautiful" with an endless list of skincare products, make-up, blusher, eyeliner, lipstick, (forgot the names to all the others but there are many more)

and every girl I've been with I find more attractive without make-up, first thing in the morning or straight out the shower. like guys on here who say "she's a 8 with make-up but a 5 without" like its such a big deception. nah, you can see how hot a girl is through make-up. if she's using that much make-up that it distorts her face then you KNOW she ugly

i literally shower and brush my teeth, maybe spray some deodorant on dem dere armpits, and hope the Lord of Norwood, first of his name, shines favorably upon my fragile combover[/QUOTE

No you can't over do makeup it looks awful

I honestly don't understand in person how you guys can't see through makeup

Photos i understand not seeing through it.
But in person I don't understand

Here is the clue if it looks like too much there is a reason.

You should be able to see the skin.

Of course special occasions this is different because even naturally attractive women can look washed out in certain lighting especially if being photographed with flash.

Brides for example would look awful in white dresses with flash lighting if not wearing makeup. All that white reflects on skin and will look bad unless she's black or Latin.

 

[hairblues]

Ugh not retyping that

 

[Dench57]

Ugh not retyping that

learn to quote

 

[hairblues]

learn to quote

It's my inferior female skill set.

 

[redpilled]

I'm getting tired of you incorrectly quoting me.I said 3 women, 3 'case studies' (to try and depersonalize it for you since you keep getting insulted when I'm not using it as an insult) for a 45 year old man to say with such certainty and assurance that he can tell when women secretly in past have had more sex partners than she is willing to reveal or not--is not proof.

I've had 3 long term relationships. So you think I've had 3 dates and that's it (3 'case studies')? You think I literally met 3 women, then had a long term relationship with every one of them? That's a hell of a strike rate. Actually, I've had 20 to 30 dates (didn't count, I give you a range) - many one day/one-off dates , some up to a few months. SOME were sexual, most never went that far. Surely you recognise the difference between a long term relationship and dating? NO, you went straight into "oh, he's only ever dated 3 women! He's inexperienced!". You are always portraying myself as being inexperienced in one way or another without even knowing me, or asking questions - you just assume the worst and then argue against the worst assumption about me (known as a strawman argument).

 

[Dench57]

I've had 3 long term relationships. So you think I've had 3 dates and that's it (3 'case studies')? You think I literally met 3 women, then had a long term relationship with every one of them? That's a hell of a strike rate. Actually, I've had about 20 to 30 dates - many one day/one-off dates , some up to a few months. SOME were sexual, most never went that far. Surely you recognise the difference between a long term relationship and dating? NO, you went straight into "oh, he's only ever dated 3 women! He's inexperienced!". You are always portraying myself as being inexperienced in one way or another without even knowing me, or asking questions - you just assume the worst and then argue against the worst assumption about me (known as a strawman argument).

what constitutes a 'long term relationship'?

 

[hairblues]

I've had 3 long term relationships. So you think I've had 3 dates and that's it? You think I literally met 3 women, then had a long term relationship with every one of them? That's a hell of a strike rate. Actually, I've had about 20 to 30 dates - many one day/one-off dates , some up to a few months. SOME were sexual, most never went that far. Surely you recognise the difference between a long term relationship and dating? NO, you went straight into "oh, he's only ever dated 3 women!". When dating, the same caution applies as to discerning WHO it is you are dating.

Okay I am beginning to think something is wrong with your comprehension ability to actually read and process what I wrote

If you are going to try and quote me try using the quote function because you have not quoted me correctly even once.

You deliberately try to misrepresent what I write to paint yourself as being criticized by me when I have not criticized you even once in this conversation.

In fact I am bending over backward trying word things so cautiously so you will not be criticized yet you keep deliberating twisting and misquoting me to make yourself look judged by me.

Trust me if I want to criticize you it's not ambiguous and you will not have to read into my words.

Now stop quoting me unless you use the quote function.

 

[Dench57]

It's my inferior female skill set.

get in the kitchen

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@WhitePolarBear
@redpilled

's ideal world

 

[redpilled]

what constitutes a 'long term relationship'?

5+ years for me. I'm in a 2 year relationship now. If this ended tomorrow, I wouldn't class it as long term.

 

[redpilled]

Okay I am beginning to think something is wrong with your comprehension ability to actually read and process what I wrote

If you are going to try and quote me try using the quote function because you have not quoted me correctly even once.

Sure:-

Don't take this wrong but 3 long term relationships is not a lot of experience to say with so much certainty that you can tell how many men women have slept with if she does not tell you.

There you go. You said I didn't have enough experience because 3 long term relationships is "not a lot of experience". You assumed that's the total sum of my experience of dating women. Your assumption is that I dated 3 women, and had 3 long term relationships with them. I've dated a lot more women than that. Most didn't convert into a long term relationship. That's usually how dating works.

I've always used the quote function by the way.

 

[Dench57]

5+ years for me. I'm in a 2 year relationship now. If this ended tomorrow, I wouldn't class it as long term.

2 year minimum i class as an LTR, though you are older than me
when they meet the family, come round for dinner, share secrets, and you form a deep emotional connection beyond sex/lust

 

[Rudiger]

when they meet the family, come round for dinner, share secrets, and you form a deep emotional connection beyond sex/lust and all that

This should have a trigger warning for people like me.

 

[Dench57]

This should have a trigger warning for people like me.

why? from your posts i assume you have a pretty normal romantic life

or are you Michael Fassbender in Shame?

 

[hairblues]

Sure:-



There you go. You said I didn't have enough experience because 3 long term relationships is "not a lot of experience". You assumed that's the total sum of my experience of dating women. I dated 3 women, had 3 long term relationships with them. You just jumped in with that assumption.

I've always used the quote function by the way.

Like I said you misquoted me on purpose to make it look as if I was knocking you

Look at you previous post with you quotations. and look at what I actually wrote.
And look at the Whole sentence not just the first half which is convenient for you.

 

[redpilled]

2 year minimum i class as an LTR, though you are older than me
when they meet the family, come round for dinner, share secrets, and you form a deep emotional connection beyond sex/lust

Sure, and I don't think there's a "right" answer as to how long to class one - it's subjective.

 

[hairblues]

This

Don't take this wrong but 3 long term relationships is not a lot of experience to say with so much certainty that you can tell how many men women have slept with if she does not tell you.

Men who are in dating world of Tinder and having moderate success of multiple dates are not going to be able to tell how many sex partners a woman has had. Not by looking at her.

And this

I've had 3 long term relationships. So you think I've had 3 dates and that's it (3 'case studies')? You think I literally met 3 women, then had a long term relationship with every one of them? That's a hell of a strike rate. Actually, I've had 20 to 30 dates (didn't count, I give you a range) - many one day/one-off dates , some up to a few months. SOME were sexual, most never went that far. Surely you recognise the difference between a long term relationship and dating? NO, you went straight into "oh, he's only ever dated 3 women! He's inexperienced!". You are always portraying myself as being inexperienced in one way or another without even knowing me, or asking questions - you just assume the worst and then argue against the worst assumption about me (known as a strawman argument).

Is defiantly not the same thing.

Also you knocked the dating part in another quote if not mistaken.
You knocked it but can't remember what you wrote and don't feel like going back again.

You offered you relations as proof that you can tell about women

Where @WhitePolarBear at least offers his sexual experience

Regardless it goes back to the original f*****g point you can't tell from just looking at a woman how many sex partners she has had

Done with this topic.

 

[Dench57]

Sure, and I don't think there's a "right" answer as to how long to class one - it's subjective.

well tbh i wouldn't class anything under 2 years as an LTR

i think thats my baseline atm, may change when i'm older

i'd say my two LTRs, being 2.5 year and 3.5 years, developed into something that short term (6month-1year) levels of knowing and sharing didn't match.

 

[redpilled]

Like I said you misquoted me on purpose to make it look as if I was knocking you

Look at you previous post with you quotations. and look at what I actually wrote.
And look at the Whole sentence not just the first half which is convenient for you.

I didn't misquote you - you might mean "out of context"? Here's the full context :-

Don't take this wrong but 3 long term relationships is not a lot of experience to say with so much certainty that you can tell how many men women have slept with if she does not tell you.

Men who are in dating world of Tinder and having moderate success of multiple dates are not going to be able to tell how many sex partners a woman has had. Not by looking at her. He may suspect if she happen to dress or look slutty but like I said before and you agreed some women can look innocent and NOT be so innocent.

Sure if he is involved long term as you are now saying then perhaps he will have some suspicion. But a year in, if a man is in love and at that point finds out she had a lot more lovers than he initially thought he is probably already in love.

And one thing about men once they are in love they are most likely not going anywhere and most likely will rationalize her past behavior.

How does the rest of the quote negate that I am "inexperienced"? Why would you label 3 long term relationships as inexperienced? Most people would assume I've dated between those relationships (they would be right), or they would at least ask me if I had. You just went straight in with "Don't take this wrong but 3 long term relationships is not a lot of experience to say with so much certainty that you can tell how many men women have slept with if she does not tell you." - you are not seeing my point here? I do have a lot more experience. 3 long term relationships are usually a product of a fair amount of dating.