Ot. Women Hypergamy Statement True Or False?

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we are both approaching 6k likes soon

sounds like a challenge

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The attractive phase of a man is also relatively short, not only for a woman:


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And now:

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I don't think there is a type of man that EVERY woman likes.

However, it has happened to me to meet some men that were systemically liked by at least half of the women around them.

In particular, when I was in my early 30s, there was a guy in the office next to mine, a certain Marco, who was 6'10", good jawline, good muscles.

I remember that a friend of mine, a girl, used to say she was baffled cause she had an impression that ALL the girls in the office wanted to f*** Marco (he was married though). I asked her if even (don't remember her name), who was timid and who kept to herself, and looked very clever, wanted to f*** him. She replied that even that girl was not timid in front of the tall hot guy.

Some weeks later, this hot Marco fucked the hottest of the girls, but did not leave the wife, so she was even sl*t shamed. Apparently not even she could resist...
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Maybe its just me, but Will Windsor looks very good bald.

His grandfather was the same.

If he was a regular guy in London, with that look, and wearing designer suits,
I cannot imagine that he couldnt get hot dates.

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Ok, so he went from heartthrob teen idol, prince william, teeny boppers screaming.

To grown 30's man, world ambassador, with kids, and a lovely wife.

Yeah its just me, but I actually think he looks just as good bald.
 

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Hypergamy is a biological fact. I know people immediately think "money", but it's more than that. It's also genes, but money does play a part too. Women are the choosers. I can't say this often enough because bizarrely people seem to forget this fact.

Yeah, women earn more and more these days, but they still want to marry sideways or upwards in terms of status, money, looks.

Jordan Petson points this all out in 3 minutes:-


Female chimpanzees will mate with any male when she is on heat. However, the more dominant males tend to chase away the less dominant ones - that's evolution in progress.

For female humans, they choose. They choose. Can I say that again because it never seems to be clear to people that think men choose as much as women. No they don't . Women are the choosers. This is the case in almost every species divided into two sexes.

Women do not choose downwards.

Women choose sideways or upwards.

Always.

Always.

Always.

Hypergamy is a fact, and it is not associated only with money.
 

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Hypergamy is a biological fact. I know people immediately think "money", but it's more than that. It's also genes, but money does play a part too. Women are the choosers. I can't say this often enough because bizarrely people seem to forget this fact.

Yeah, women earn more and more these days, but they still want to marry sideways or upwards in terms of status, money, looks.

Jordan Petson points this all out in 3 minutes:-


Female chimpanzees will mate with any male when she is on heat. However, the more dominant males tend to chase away the less dominant ones - that's evolution in progress.

For female humans, they choose. They choose. Can I say that again because it never seems to be clear to people that think men choose as much as women. No they don't . Women are the choosers. This is the case in almost every species divided into two sexes.

Women do not choose downwards.

Women choose sideways or upwards.

Always.

Always.

Always.

Hypergamy is a fact, and it is not associated only with money.
Women didnt choose until recently.

Biggest mistake of men.
 

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Women didnt choose until recently.

Biggest mistake of men.

They've always chosen - because nature.

On the plus side, resource gathering is a big factor of how attractive a man is - so an older man can be attractive to younger women. For a woman, they lose THEIR attraction the moment they start to look older - because eggs. This is just biology at play. Sure, some person will come on here and be all offended by my words, but really it's just they can't accept how clinical nature is. I love how identity politics somehow trumps science when it suits some people. No. Science is science. Identity politics is often "how you want nature to be".
 

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Value is real and external and humans can almost always tell where value and power are. Height, physical fitness and looks are part of this: people high in these traits can more easily obtain what they want in life.

According to studies, on the job market, being good-looking (and smart enough, obviously) is the equivalent of having a master's degree.


Exactly. And this is where I think the "red pill Constitution" is a bit weak.

I have a feeling it does not underline how the phisique of a man can be important to give that "powerful" sensation to a woman and can replace the knowledge he is rich or powerful.

Then again, I think the "typical lookism user" does not know what they would like to change in the man - woman interaction.

- Women like powerful men? "b****s, they cannot see our real value"
- Women like handsome men? "b****s, they cannot see our real value"

What's it gonna be?
 

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As Peterson also pointed out, there is a 0.5 correlation between a man's success on the dating scene and his status.

It's not 0, and it will never be 0. Make no mistake, couples where the man makes less money will almost always experience issues.

Right now my girlfriend and I make the same, but if she starts making too much money compared to me, she'll come to resent me.

There's no escaping this and looks are often not enough to appease her, if you're the father of her kids, she'll want you to be above her in terms of status.

If that's not the case, her biology will take over and she'll (subconsciously) wonder how come that she's able to outperform you?

Value is real and external and humans can almost always tell where value and power are. Height, physical fitness and looks are part of this: people high in these traits can more easily obtain what they want in life.

According to studies, on the job market, being good-looking (and smart enough, obviously) is the equivalent of having a master's degree.

And women know this.
Newsflash

She already resents you if you are not making millions

She watches TV right

A woman almost always thinks they deserve everything

This is toxic hypergamy
 

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Newsflash

She already resents you if you are not making millions

She watches TV right

A woman almost always thinks they deserve everything

This is toxic hypergamy
Seriously, comments like these are ridiculous.

Why do we have to lower the tone of the forum by posting stuff like this?
 

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Now I'm wondering if value is relative or absolute when it comes to looks or status.

And it would be interesting to see how women's perception has been distorted since the rise of globalism.

What about a hundred years ago? What if the best-looking person of your village was a 6/10, did he automatically become Chad in the eyes of the majority of the women of the village? What if better doesn't exist?

There are two schools here, and I've seen some people rate looks in absolute terms and others relative terms.

So many people have distorted perceptions and really think that the average man (or woman) is necessarily not overweight or having any physical impairments.

You only need to go outside to know that it's not true. The average person is a mess look-wise, which also explains women's harsh judgement that at least 80% of men are below average (ie. they don't make the cut).



Trying to assess this above.

I don't think what you say is true.

Only delusional women think like that.

People get matched according to looks, status, intelligence and personality traits.

Studies about this are quite clear.

I think globalism has a role, but I am afraid it can't be assessed precisely.

More than one study has assessed, though, that the archetypal "Hollywood love story", in which man and wife behave for years as if they were on honeymoon, has set very high expectations, possibly too high expectations for the "real life couple".

It would not surprise me if some women devalued the men they know because they are not handsome and charismatic like David Beckham, so to speak.
 

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I think globalism has a role, but I am afraid it can't be assessed precisely.

More than one study has assessed, though, that the archetypal "Hollywood love story", in which man and wife behave for years as if they were on honeymoon, has set very high expectations, possibly too high expectations for the "real life couple".

It would not surprise me if some women devalued the men they know because they are not handsome and charismatic like David Beckham, so to speak.
Social media has made women think they deserve it all because of 5 these things:

* The amount of likes they get on a instagram picture. Average slim girl gets over 100 likes easily.
* Female friends and indian betas telling them how beautiful they are in the comments.
* The amount of Chads they look at on social media has distorted their perception of what's normal looks.
* The fact that they can easily get Chad to pound their disease ridden poon.
* Memes saying how beautiful and special they are and that they should never settle.

This combined with the fact that women are choosers biologically, are easily able to provide for themselves, traditional media normalizing slutty behaviour and that they would rather date Chad knowing that he dates multiple other girls as well than settle for their looksmatch. That's what makes an increasingly amount of guys incel, and the fact that girls are all sleeping with same man makes STDs rise.

And even with all of this most women are still able to settle down with a nice beta once their prime is over and they "got it out of their system" (being absolute sl*ts for 15 years). If bluepilled Billy Averagelookson has gone his twenties barely getting his dick wet before his girlfriend leaves him for someone better. He will then think post prime Stacy that was a hottie in high school is a catch, but she has put on some pounds because of her fast party lifestyle, her face isn't as tight as it was in highschool and her poon is wide, beefy and littered with STDS. Beggars can't be choosers and neither can Billy.
 

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*Puts his white knight helmet*

That's a gross generalization and you assume that all women are dysfunctional and delusional.

How do you explain that my current girlfriend doesn't do any of the above? And please don't tell me I found a unicorn.

Her female friends are the same, maybe unicorns flock together?

The only explanation I can find is that she is from a conservative background, same as her friends.

Flemish people in Belgium are very conservative and whoring around is definitely not the norm.

Do the above in Flanders and you're going to be ostracized.

That would be more common in the south of Belgium that is socialist, there the situation you describe above is way more common.

But even then, sl*t shaming there is powerful, women can't do that without consequences.

You need to separate conservative and progressive females in your analysis.

It's stupid to believe that society or a group within society is homogeneous.

When you do that, you're not so different from the leftists you despise so much.
I can't account for all different societies in a short post, writing "but, the amish women aren't hypergamous!" is counter productive. I'm talking about AVERAGE women from rich western countries, of course there are exceptions.

There's exceptions to every rule. And your girlfriend isn't one, you're a tall good looking guy in your late twenties with a good stable job. She just values height over hair and hopped off the cockcarousel a couple of years early. You have even said yourself that she wouldn't date you if you were average height.

That your girlfriend didn't have sl*t phase is possible, but it's also possible that she's lying about it. You're also saying that you live in a conservative city, most cities aren't, most cities are progressive and "liberated". And once again I'm talking about averages.

Also disliking posts that you are disagreeing with weakens your argument, it looks like you are trying to shut them up rather than proving them wrong.
 
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