Ot. Women Hypergamy Statement True Or False?

blackg

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Social media has made women think they deserve it all because of 5 these things:

* The amount of likes they get on a instagram picture. Average slim girl gets over 100 likes easily.
* Female friends and indian betas telling them how beautiful they are in the comments.
* The amount of Chads they look at on social media has distorted their perception of what's normal looks.
* The fact that they can easily get Chad to pound their disease ridden poon.
* Memes saying how beautiful and special they are and that they should never settle.

This combined with the fact that women are choosers biologically, are easily able to provide for themselves, traditional media normalizing slutty behaviour and that they would rather date Chad knowing that he dates multiple other girls as well than settle for their looksmatch. That's what makes an increasingly amount of guys incel, and the fact that girls are all sleeping with same man makes STDs rise.

And even with all of this most women are still able to settle down with a nice beta once their prime is over and they "got it out of their system" (being absolute sl*ts for 15 years). If bluepilled Billy Averagelookson has gone his twenties barely getting his dick wet before his girlfriend leaves him for someone better. He will then think post prime Stacy that was a hottie in high school is a catch, but she has put on some pounds because of her fast party lifestyle, her face isn't as tight as it was in highschool and her poon is wide, beefy and littered with STDS. Beggars can't be choosers and neither can Billy.
Have you ever spoken to a woman?
 
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But should not it work in two ways: men devaluing women because they don't look like Penelope Cruz (mostly as she ages). I see a lot of men dumping their wives for younger females... don't they think they deserve it all?
Oh yeah.
Men have always been dogs.

They have just always feigned that women weren't b****s.

Men have always feared to realize that women weren't better than they. However, in the 21st century, neither women not men can deny the reality that both genders are dominated by instincts and some not-so-philosophical societal consideration.
 

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We all have our weaknesses.

When you see your ageing, overweight 40 year old wife who barely wants to have sex anymore and you see tight (sorry, trying to find a youthful adjective) fresh young 25 year old who'd still go for you because you remained attractive (= you kept your hair)...

It's hard not to be tempted.

The question is: why wouldn't you go for it? What would/should be stopping you?

If you are married, you do not fantasize about other women.

If you are going to cheat or thinking about it, then divorce your wife, tell her the truth, and spare her the
death sentence.
 

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*Puts his white knight helmet*

That's a gross generalization and you assume that all women are dysfunctional and delusional.

Where did he say about 'all' women?

Again, you think up what your opponent didn't say and argue against it. Not surprised that your Muslim friend wins every argues with you.

Patrick said what average western girl is nowadays, nothing more. The average does not equal to all, you can look up a definition in a dictionary.
 

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It's painfull to know that any girl I could date could f*** a much more attractive guy in less than an hour if she wanted. Everyone, no matter how perfect, can have moments of weaknesses.

It's painfull to know that any looksmatched girl I could date will have very likely fucked more attractive guys.

It's painfull to know that I can pretty much only f*** around with girls below me in attractiveness.

But it's life, it isn't just women's fault, it isn't just men's fault. It's just how it is.

I think women do have a type beyond just "chad", and Chad can't just date any girl. But when it comes to sleeping around their type is Chad.

I also think whitepolarbear is correct. People are all different. There are many things you can say about the average girl that don't apply to many other girls. But you're fighting against the odds.
 

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That said, I think every guy should sleep around as much as he can because he commits to one woman.

Girls should remain virgins and try to score the most valuable guy they can while they're in their prime (16-25).

Healthysociety101.

Muslimsociety101
 

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I could do that in a matter of days, it's possible, and my girlfriend knows it.

In a matter of weeks, I could have several hotter girls than her on rotation.

Why don't I do it? Because I think that what she brings me is more valuable than living that lifestyle.

Why doesn't she do what you describe above? Because she thinks that what I bring her is more valuable than f*****g some random Chad.

Some people have stronger morals than others, or have learned to develop a stronger sense of ethics.

As you know, I haven't always thought this way, it took me some trial and error to realize that casual sex is not beneficial in the long-term.

That said, I think every guy should sleep around as much as he can because he commits to one woman.

Girls should remain virgins and try to score the most valuable guy they can while they're in their prime (16-25).

Healthysociety101.

True, I certainly know there are happy non-cheating (I know there's a better word for this) relationships. I also know it doesn't always stay that way.

Either way that's the least of my worries currently.
 

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I can't account for all different societies in a short post, writing "but, the amish women aren't hypergamous!" is counter productive. I'm talking about AVERAGE women from rich western countries, of course there are exceptions.

There's exceptions to every rule. And your girlfriend isn't one, you're a tall good looking guy in your late twenties with a good stable job. She just values height over hair and hopped off the cockcarousel a couple of years early. You have even said yourself that she wouldn't date you if you were average height.

That your girlfriend didn't have sl*t phase is possible, but it's also possible that she's lying about it. You're also saying that you live in a conservative city, most cities aren't, most cities are progressive and "liberated". And once again I'm talking about averages.

Also disliking posts that you are disagreeing with weakens your argument, it looks like you are trying to shut them up rather than proving them wrong.
That comment is pure gold. And i completely agree with you about the dislikes part. He dislikes me without even reading my replays and arguments, because he thinks it discourages me or crushes my spirit or some sh*t. He doesn't even respond back sometimes.
 

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I don't believe that the average girl is like that either.

Girls are like that only on the internet, especially on MGTOW forums.

Real life experiences will always trump the delusions of fat men in their 50's who were divorce-raped.

How can you say that when the message women have gotten over the last 30+ years is that they can do no wrong, and that "sex sells" and they have so many role models that use their looks / sex appeal to get what they want? It's "girls gone wild" in most towns and cities in the UK (at least) on the weekend.
 

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Have you ever spoken to a woman?
Sick contribution to the forum once again by the one and only @blackg .

Aren't you like 50 years old? I think I know more about girls in their 20s in #currentyear than you do.

Next time try disproving my points or atleast say which point you disagree with instead of this spastic bullshit.
 

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Sick contribution to the forum once again by the one and only @blackg .

Aren't you like 50 years old? I think I know more about girls in their 20s in #currentyear than you do.

Next time try disproving my points or atleast say which point you disagree with instead of this spastic bullshit.

I always hated this. When I was a virgin I could never make any comment on women without someone saying "What would you know haha".

Maybe I don't know much, but correct me or argue with me rather than being a dick.
 

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Fair point.

We're going after hypothetical scenarios here.

What would happen if they tried to go after all the plain janes, would they all say yes to him?

But as you say, they don't have to do that, as they have access to hotter women, so why bother?

Really Really HOT men, like men who are 9 or 9.5...in NYC or LA do not have to do sh*t to get women.

They can actually just stand in a corner of a bar or club or subway station or on line getting coffee--and hot forward 'ballsy' women will approach them.

They need no game except 'The don't f*** it up or Don't be a weirdo' game.

Women in NYC are ruthless when hot for a guy. Super aggressive.

I dated a guy for a few months who was SUPER duper hot when I was in my late 20s..top tier in face and body.

Hotter (but slutty looking) women than me would try to hit on him in front of me, was crazy and sometimes embarrassing.

I do not think its quality women like men would want to date outside of sex--but Hot looking women down to have sex for sure will just approach a very hot guy no game needed by him.
 

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How many western women date Thai men? How many western men date Thai women? There's your answer to this thread.

Western women, what's wrong with Thai men?


It's not really a good example because most of the men going to Thailand are older and looking for younger women. If its 35 wanting a 20 year old or a 55 wanting a 30 year old..its older looking for younger.

They cant get the younger women in West--because not either they are good looking or not wealthy enough--so in Thailand this is not a factor.

If they wanted to f*** women looks/aged matched to them in West they could probably get women--they do not want this you said yourself they want younger.
 

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It's "girls gone wild" in most towns and cities in the UK (at least) on the weekend.
So men get their nose out of joint once girls "go wild."
But it's always okay if a girl wants to go wild with ourselves.

The thinking amongst men has always been: If a girl is sleeping with anyone else but me then she must be a sl*t.

So...
If a girl sleeps with another guy, she's a sl*t.
If she sleeps with me, she has great taste, and of course, great morals!

Home run, b****s!!
 

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Sick contribution to the forum once again by the one and only @blackg .

Aren't you like 50 years old? I think I know more about girls in their 20s in #currentyear than you do.

Next time try disproving my points or atleast say which point you disagree with instead of this spastic bullshit.
You still didn't answer my question. When was the last time you had more then a cursory conversation with a woman your age, or even older?
 

blackg

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I always hated this. When I was a virgin I could never make any comment on women without someone saying "What would you know haha".

Maybe I don't know much, but correct me or argue with me rather than being a dick.
Fair point, Captain Smooth.
 

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must be annoying as f*** having conversations with your self everyday whilst everybody else goes to bed

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is there not an Australian forum you can go to?

have conversations with people in real time?

i mean your always half a day behind. half a day behind the conversations here.

whats the point lol
 

blackg

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is there not an Australian forum you can go to?

have conversations with people in real time?

i mean your always half a day behind. half a day behind the conversations here.

I'm usually half a day behind when I have conversations with people down here too.
I don't go to many parties because I can't keep up.
 
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