Ot. Women Hypergamy Statement True Or False?

[sunchyme1]

I'm usually half a day behind when I have conversations with people down here too.
I don't go to many parties because I can't keep up.

is it annoying?

 

[Stanx22]

must be annoying as f*** having conversations with your self everyday whilst everybody else goes to bed

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That white background theme makes me blind. Try the dark one, better for the eye.

 

[redpilled]

Really Really HOT men, like men who are 9 or 9.5...in NYC or LA do not have to do sh*t to get women. They can actually just stand in a corner of a bar or club or subway station or on line getting coffee--and hot forward 'ballsy' women will approach them. They need no game except 'The don't f*** it up or Don't be a weirdo' game.

Below-average women and above, like women who anywhere between 2 and 10...in the world... do not have to do sh*t to get men. They can actually just stand anywhere--and men will approach them. They need no game except 'The don't f*** it up or Don't be a weirdo' game.

 

[redpilled]

It's not really a good example because most of the men going to Thailand are older and looking for younger women. If its 35 wanting a 20 year old or a 55 wanting a 30 year old..its older looking for younger.

They cant get the younger women in West--because not either they are good looking or not wealthy enough--so in Thailand this is not a factor.

If they wanted to f*** women looks/aged matched to them in West they could probably get women--they do not want this you said yourself they want younger.

You realise you just agreed with my point, right? You're saying "it's not a good example because it's true" - eh? So you agree with my point and then say it's not a good example. And yes, I wanted to point that out three times...!

 

[redpilled]

It's not really a good example because most of the men going to Thailand are older and looking for younger women. If its 35 wanting a 20 year old or a 55 wanting a 30 year old..its older looking for younger.

They cant get the younger women in West--because not either they are good looking or not wealthy enough--so in Thailand this is not a factor.

If they wanted to f*** women looks/aged matched to them in West they could probably get women--they do not want this you said yourself they want younger.

You've just highlighted hypergamy is a thing. A woman must date upwards or equal at worst. That's why so many western men are "rejects" in the west, but not in poorer countries. And of course, they're shamed that they do this, yet it's just nature. You also point out that older women are "rejects" around the world when you consider what men find attractive. I await your anecdotes with baited breath, but remember - this is a generalisation. Your anecdotes do not disprove a generalisation. So, I look forward to your anecdotes!

 

[blackg]

is it annoying?

Only if they don't look at you.

 

[hairblues]

You realise you just agreed with my point, right? You're saying "it's not a good example because it's true" - eh? So you agree with my point and then say it's not a good example. And yes, I wanted to point that out three times...!

No then I must have misunderstood your point.

It sounded like you were using women not going to Thailand for men as an example of their hypogramy and western men going as an example they are not.

 

[Stanx22]

Below-average women and above, like women who anywhere between 2 and 10...in the world... do not have to do sh*t to get men. They can actually just stand anywhere--and men will approach them. They need no game except 'The don't f*** it up or Don't be a weirdo' game.

Not to even mention that they can improve themselves drastically by make up, push ups, plastic surgery, high heels, while a man's physical attractiveness depends only on his genetics (height, hair, jaw, etc...)

 

[hairblues]

You've just highlighted hypergamy is a thing. A woman must date upwards or equal at worst. That's why so many western men are "rejects" in the west, but not in poorer countries. And of course, they're shamed that they do this, yet it's just nature. You also point out that older women are "rejects" around the world when you consider what men find attractive. I await your anecdotes with baited breath, but remember - this is a generalisation. Your anecdotes do not disprove a generalisation. So, I look forward to your anecdotes!

Yes no one is arguing this fact. I was addressing his quote about something else.

 

[redpilled]

So men get their nose out of joint once girls "go wild."
But it's always okay if a girl wants to go wild with ourselves.

The thinking amongst men has always been: If a girl is sleeping with anyone else but me then she must be a sl*t.

So...
If a girl sleeps with another guy, she's a sl*t.
If she sleeps with me, she has great taste, and of course, great morals!

Home run, b****s!!

It's a lot harder for a man to put a load of knotches on his bed post than a woman. You know this, but act coy on the topic as if it's just as easy for any man to get laid as for any woman. The incel crowd are all males...for a reason. So when a woman sleeps around, she's "easy". When a guy does it, it means he's incredibly confident and/or a 7+. A woman who is a 2 can sleep with hundreds of guys, and society rightly has a shaming mechanism because society would plunge into chaos if every woman decided to say "yes" to every advance.

 

[redpilled]

Not to even mention that they can improve themselves drastically by make up, push ups, plastic surgery, high heels, while a man's physical attractiveness depends only on his genetics (height, hair, jaw, etc...)

Yep, and make-up manipulates men into thinking the woman wearing the makeup is ovulating - red lips, dark eyes, blushed cheeks - all not-so-subtle indications that her body is ready to make babies right now.

 

[hairblues]

You've just highlighted hypergamy is a thing. A woman must date upwards or equal at worst. That's why so many western men are "rejects" in the west, but not in poorer countries. And of course, they're shamed that they do this, yet it's just nature. You also point out that older women are "rejects" around the world when you consider what men find attractive. I await your anecdotes with baited breath, but remember - this is a generalisation. Your anecdotes do not disprove a generalisation. So, I look forward to your anecdotes!

Yes women want equal or better for sure definitely not worse although a lot of women will settle for worse I see it often. Depends on woman really. I think it depends on a few factors.
who wants worse? No one.

Baited breadth??
Are you flirting with me?

 

[redpilled]

Yes women want equal or better for sure definitely not worse although a lot of women will settle for worse I see it often. Depends on woman really. I think it depends on a few factors.
who wants worse? No one.

Baited breadth??
Are you flirting with me?

Honestly, I could write your posts for you, they're so predictable. ZOMG - hairblues knows some women who settled for less! Mother nature has been proven wrong by a vague anecdotal comment.

who wants worse? No one.

Ummmm.....men?

Because anything is better than nothing.

Mother nature. Don't be offended by it. It actually flatters women, but then again, not really. It's just the way it is. Women aren't as good as they think they are - it's just men are more desperate because they have less choice.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/with--bated--breath

 

[hairblues]

Honestly, I could write your posts for you, they're so predictable. ZOMG - hairblues knows some women who settled for less! Mother nature has been proven wrong by a vague anecdotal comment.



Ummmm.....men?

Because anything is better than nothing.

Mother nature. Don't be offended by it. It actually flatters women, but then again, not really. It's just the way it is. Women aren't as good as they think they are - it's just men are more desperate because they have less choice.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/with--bated--breath

You always seem to quote my comments and write as if we are fighting or arguing.

I have no idea what ZOMG is and I was joking about the flirting.

 

[redpilled]

You always seem to quote my comments and write as if we are fighting or arguing.

We are disagreeing - as usual

 

[hairblues]

We are disagreeing - as usual

Not really.

 

[redpilled]

Not really.

I disagree that you think we are not really in disagreement.

 

[blackg]

It's a lot harder for a man to put a load of knotches on his bed post than a woman. You know this, but act coy on the topic as if it's just as easy for any man to get laid as for any woman. The incel crowd are all males...for a reason. So when a woman sleeps around, she's "easy". When a guy does it, it means he's incredibly confident and/or a 7+. A woman who is a 2 can sleep with hundreds of guys, and society rightly has a shaming mechanism because society would plunge into chaos if every woman decided to say "yes" to every advance.

I appreciate your reply, but, come on...

Firstly I definitely know how hard it is for men to achieve a level of sexual contentment. Especially average looking men.

The other points.. All incels are definitely not exclusively male. A great deal of females are incel too, for a variety of reasons. Reasons that often mirror those of their male (incel) counterparts.

Also the part you wrote about society "rightfully" have a shaming mechanism in place to deter women from sleeping around was interesting.
You bring up all the usual platitudes.... Disease, relationship breakdown, unhealthy lifestyle, blah blah..
While those reason are valid to a degree, I believe the main reason a woman is shame for being promiscuous is simply jealousy!
Jealousy from both their male and female peers.
Also, definitely a kind of resentment comes into play because we view people who partake in this kind of easy sexual dalliance as those who break the tacit social construct.

How dare this person live so carefree (have fun) while I'm at home every night doing the right thing by my family and society at large!!!!
No, this transgressor MUST be shamed to bring her (or him) back into line.
We demand our peers must be as regimented and bored with their lives as the rest of us spirituality poor wretched souls.

Just my opinion.
Give it some thought.

 

[redpilled]

All incels are definitely not exclusively male. A great deal of females are incel too, for a variety of reasons. Reasons that often mirror those of their male (incel) counterparts.

99% of incels are male. This is just biology at play here. Saying "it's not 100%" is not really an argument when the reply will be "OK, then you're right - 99% is not 100%".

Have you ever read women complaining that it's the "Staceys" that are getting laid and not them? Nope. Now, how often do you hear complaints from men about the "Chads"? All the time.

Also the part you wrote about society "rightfully" have a shaming mechanism in place to deter women from sleeping around was interesting.
You bring up all the usual platitudes.... Disease, relationship breakdown, unhealthy lifestyle, blah blah..While those reason are valid to a degree, I believe the main reason a woman is shame for being promiscuous is simply jealousy!
Jealousy from both their male and female peers.

First off, they're not platitudes. They're very real risks. I know that on these boards, we tend to be better educated and conscientous of our actions, but wider society is full of absolute morons. It's these morons that society tries to tame through shaming. Not saying it works all the time, but society does use shame to put a lid on certain behaviours.

Jealousy regarding something that's easy? Would you be jealous of a guy who has shagged 100 very good looking prostitutes? I know I wouldn't. I could do the same. I don't want to. If I am jealous, it tends to be regarding things that are difficult to obtain. Are you jealous of a guy wearing a wig? No. Are you jealous of a genuine fullhead? There's your answer.

 

[SmoothSailing]

I appreciate your reply, but, come on...

Firstly I definitely know how hard it is for men to achieve a level of sexual contentment. Especially average looking men.

The other points.. All incels are definitely not exclusively male. A great deal of females are incel too, for a variety of reasons. Reasons that often mirror those of their male (incel) counterparts.

Also the part you wrote about society "rightfully" have a shaming mechanism in place to deter women from sleeping around was interesting.
You bring up all the usual platitudes.... Disease, relationship breakdown, unhealthy lifestyle, blah blah..
While those reason are valid to a degree, I believe the main reason a woman is shame for being promiscuous is simply jealousy!
Jealousy from both their male and female peers.
Also, definitely a kind of resentment comes into play because we view people who partake in this kind of easy sexual dalliance as those who break the tacit social construct.

How dare this person live so carefree (have fun) while I'm at home every night doing the right thing by my family and society at large!!!!
No, this transgressor MUST be shamed to bring her (or him) back into line.
We demand our peers must be as regimented and bored with their lives as the rest of us spirituality poor wretched souls.

Just my opinion.
Give it some thought.

Why would women be jealous of something they could do themselves?

Men dislike women who have had many partners for biological reasons. From an evolutionary perspective it's better to spread your genes with a girl who hasn't had sex recently. Plus it's more of a 'win' to get a girl who rarely gives it out. Finally, a girl who fucks around is less likely to be impressed by your sexual performance.