Ot. Women Hypergamy Statement True Or False?

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You're both right and wrong here, yes, @zircon is being a bit of a white knight.

And @hairblues 's argumentation has improved a lot in the past months, that's for sure.

But placing her experiences on a pedestal like zircon does is a bit naive and shortsighted.

Hairblues is biased at many levels, especially when it comes on the dating scene.

And no I don't believe that the views advanced by some posters here are misogynistic even though some are taking it too far.

And finally, and that one is a bit of a trigger for me: saying entertainment (movies) as a whole to infer truths about human behavior is again wrong in my humble opinion.

That argument reminds me of social justice warriors who will scream that the movie Captain Phillips is a racist story and that the Belgian movie "A en perdre la raison" is misogynistic because its shows a woman murdering her 5 children in cold blood.

Too bad for them, these movies are based on true stories. And you don't necessarily need a story to be based in reality for it to have powerful and accurate insights about human behavior.

And let's not even talk about the mocking of evolutionary psychology, "yeah science is misogynistic dude!" Nothing that the lead researchers in evolutionary psychology is that controversial anyway. Too bad their findings often gets badly interpreted by the manosphere types:

"Women go for high-status men (they edit out 'for long-term relationships' part here), that means that if I fake being high-status, I can trick her into having a one night stand!"

Tinder screenshots are useful, but they don't tell the whole story. Like I said recently, out of 80 matches, these super hot guys should be able to f*** 6 women in the end.

Damn, I put my "finally" too early in this one.
Most old guys are white knights. They were living in a different generation, different reality, with different women. They all have the concept of women looking after their children, rely on a man to provide for them and their offspring despite being attractive or not, and second-wave feminists who weren't biased and stood for "real" women rights without f*****g men over, but now it's completely different. They think we're judging women and just want to use them for sex, because they can't imagine how women can be today. That's why i can excuse zircon a bit, because he maybe don't know what's really going on today.
 

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Most old guys are white knights. They were living in a different generation, different reality, with different women. They all have the concept of women looking after their children, rely on a man to provide for them and their offspring despite being attractive or not, and second-wave feminists who weren't biased and stood for "real" women rights without f*****g men over, but now it's completely different. They think we're judging women and just want to use them for sex, because they can't imagine how women can be today. That's why i can excuse zircon a bit, because he maybe don't know what's really going on today.

@zircon you are considered old :(
 

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replace Islam in this equation with religion of Jesus and nothing changes, lol
It's not the religion of Jesus actually. Islam and Judaism and Christianity are from the same god. 3 of god's prophets were sent with the 3 religions. Muses was sent with the Torah (Judaism) to Bani Israel, Jesus was sent with the Bible (Christianity), and finally Muhammad was sent with the Quran (Islam). Jesus is no god, anyone with a 13 IQ would realize it. There's no god who takes a piss or a poop or eats food or dies for humanity, and nothing called a 3 gods in 1 god. Actually Jesus never claimed to be god or said worship me in any version of the Bible versions.
 

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Most old guys are white knights. They were living in a different generation, different reality, with different women. They all have the concept of women looking after their children, rely on a man to provide for them and their offspring despite being attractive or not, and second-wave feminists who weren't biased and stood for "real" women rights without f*****g men over, but now it's completely different. They think we're judging women and just want to use them for sex, because they can't imagine how women can be today. That's why i can excuse zircon a bit, because he maybe don't know what's really going on today.
so my friend u know whats going on now? correct me if im wrong u said u live hermit style i think guys like u have no idea about women ...
 

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It's not the religion of Jesus actually. Islam and Judaism and Christianity are from the same god. 3 of god's prophets were sent with the 3 religions. Muses was sent with the Torah (Judaism) to Bani Israel, Jesus was sent with the Bible (Christianity), and finally Muhammad was sent with the Quran (Islam). Jesus is no god, anyone with a 13 IQ would realize it. There's no god who takes a piss or a poop or eats food or dies for humanity, and nothing called a 3 gods in 1 god. Actually Jesus never claimed to be god or said worship me in any version of the Bible versions.

I don't care tbh :) Looks like a Marvel story
 

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Zircon is in his early 30's, I'm in my late 20's and we our opinions about women don't differ that much.

I can't relate to what you're saying about women being complete b****s who think they can get away with anything.

@swingline747 was making the same point about American women, and my reaction was "thank god European women aren't like that."
LOL i thought he was 50 years old or something, his avatar makes him look old.
 

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You're both right and wrong here, yes, @zircon is being a bit of a white knight.

And @hairblues 's argumentation has improved a lot in the past months, that's for sure.

But placing her experiences on a pedestal like zircon does is a bit naive and shortsighted.

Hairblues is biased at many levels, especially when it comes on the dating scene.

And no I don't believe that the views advanced by some posters here are misogynistic even though some are taking it too far.

And finally, and that one is a bit of a trigger for me: saying entertainment (movies) as a whole to infer truths about human behavior is again wrong in my humble opinion.

That argument reminds me of social justice warriors who will scream that the movie Captain Phillips is a racist story and that the Belgian movie "A en perdre la raison" is misogynistic because its shows a woman murdering her 5 children in cold blood.

Too bad for them, these movies are based on true stories. And you don't necessarily need a story to be based in reality for it to have powerful and accurate insights about human behavior.

And let's not even talk about the mocking of evolutionary psychology, "yeah science is misogynistic dude!" Nothing that the lead researchers in evolutionary psychology is that controversial anyway. Too bad their findings often gets badly interpreted by the manosphere types:

"Women go for high-status men (they edit out 'for long-term relationships' part here), that means that if I fake being high-status, I can trick her into having a one night stand!"

Tinder screenshots are useful, but they don't tell the whole story. Like I said recently, out of 80 matches, these super hot guys should be able to f*** 6 women in the end.

Damn, I put my "finally" too early in this one.


If I am biased and my experience only counts so much then same can be said for you.
 

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That's why Christianity is superior. It leads to the secularisation of religious content by itself !
Christianity doesn't lead to secularisation. It's just that Catholics don't care about their religion or follow it, but rarely. While Orthodox who live in Russia and the middle east care about it a lot more.
 

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A daily reminder of genetical inferiority.

An actor from Handmaid's tale who played Commander is close to 10/10 aristocratic looks. Sadly, eye area ruins a bit

I think it's a @Pasbrillantebrunette's "type"

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Beard and a bit of recession on a hairline suits him imho
 

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And your avatar makes you look retarded. :D;)
You don't know Joji (FilthyFrank) ? Must check him out. But don't if you're sensitive because he says a lot of offensive sh*t and make jokes of everyone, but he has one of the best reputations on Youtube, also almost everyone loves him.
 

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Did you study secularisation ? Christianity leads to the idea of individuels, progress and God's death... It leads to theological narratives which leads to historical philosophies (Hegel) which leads to Marx...
Christians in Egypt would literally kill the girl or the boy if they married from Muslims (happened many times). And they hate gays very much. People in the west or Catholics are just more open-minded, but they believe in the same religion.
 

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You're the biggest white knight i've ever seen on this forum. (Actually the second, blackg is holding the title right now)

Why because he agrees with me on some topics?

You agreed with me on some topics
this white knight bullshit is weak

You just don't like he agreed with me on something you happen to disagree with.

Many posters here you see agreeing with me have also disagreed with me strongly many times.

Many posters you are seeing disagree with me have agreed with me strongly many times

Just f*****g deal.


Move to Queens make a good life for youself.
 

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Didn't say you have to care, just correcting your ignorance.

That's not an ignorance but rather lack of interest in this topic.

I've been taught that Jesus is a God or 1/3 of God. Whatever...

Christianity doesn't lead to secularisation. It's just that Catholics don't care about their religion or follow it, but rarely. While Orthodox who live in Russia and the middle east care about it a lot more.

> While Orthodox who live in Russia

I live 50 meters away from Russian Orthodox church right now and almost nobody younger than 40 are visiting it aside some religion holidays :):) I see crowds in alco markets, though

Almost nobody is giving a flying f*** on religion nowadays

... just correcting your ignorance ...
 

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Why because he agrees with me on some topics?

You agreed with me on some topics
this white knight bullshit is weak

You just don't like he agreed with me

Many posters here you see agreeing with me have also disagreed with me strongly many times.

Many posters you are seeing disagree with me have agreed with me strongly many times

Just f*****g deal.
No, it's not about you. It's about saying that anyone who disagrees with you is a misogynist.
 

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That's not an ignorance but rather lack of interest in this topic.

I've been taught that Jesus is a God or 1/3 of God. Whatever...



> While Orthodox who live in Russia

I live 50 meters away from Russian Orthodox church right now and almost nobody younger than 40 are visiting it aside some religion holidays :):) I see crowds in alco markets, though

Almost nobody is giving a flying f*** on religion nowadays

... just correcting your ignorance ...
Don't know about Russia, i just know that they live there. But they're here in Egypt (Around 10 millions).
 

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It seems like many of you would like to live in a world without religion. I went through a phase when I was younger where I realized that God doesn't exist and that the bible is a fairytale. I still don't believe in God or the tales of the Bible, but the values and traditions of Christianity are important for society. Being judged for your actions either by law or god is essential for a healthy society.
 

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Don't know about Russia, i just know that they live there. But they're here in Egypt (Around 10 millions).

Do you mean coptes?

I think Georgia is a more appropriate example of the orthodox country.
 
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