Propecia alternative

helpwithhair

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Hi Everyone

Im at the very early stages of hairloss and baldness and I wanna start taking a DHT blocker like Propecia which seems to be the best but I dont wanna go onto it just yet. This is because of the price, the possibility of side effects and the fact that it seems to have about a 8-10 year life span before your body develops a tolerance to it. I want Propecia to be my last resort.

Does any one know any alternatives to Propecia that does the job or as much of the same job as Propecia.

Ive heard that Revivogen is almost as good at Propecia, should I use that instead to block DHT and keep the hair I have now or does any1 know anything better?

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H/B

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Generic proscar. Just cut it into 1/4s. You will save a lot of loot.
 

casperz

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Topical spironolactone or 2% nizoral would be my choice if that is all I
could take.

I'm not sure that you develop a tolerance to finasteride, if your
hair is DHT sensitive you are going to lose it eventually, finasteride
just slows the process down.
 

beastrad

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I started taking Proscar, cut up into fifths (easy to do) a little over 3 months ago and have not looked back. I combine this with nizoral use a few days a week and I'm already starting to see results.

It costs me $97 Aus for 30 pills, therefore costing me $237 per year or less than $12 per month. For that amount you get real Proscar from a pharmacy and the insurance its safe and real.

Proscar is the most effective treatment by far, and the easiest, and for me that is why it was my first option rather than my last.
 

Quantum Cat

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nothing's as good as finasteride/propecia - except maybe Dutesteride.

and isn't an 8-10 year lifespan better than nothing?
 

Flavio

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helpwithhair said:
[...] Does any one know any alternatives to Propecia that does the job or as much of the same job as Propecia.

[...]

There are no alternatives to finasteride (Propecia, Proscar) - except maybe Avodart (dutasteride), like Quantum Cat said.

Finasteride is the most effective baldness treatment available. If money is a problem, buy Proscar and cut it into 4ths.
 

Bryan

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beastrad said:
Proscar is the most effective treatment by far...

Flavio said:
Finasteride is the most effective baldness treatment available.

Those are some pretty bold claims! :)
 

HT55

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Bryan said:
beastrad said:
Proscar is the most effective treatment by far...

Flavio said:
Finasteride is the most effective baldness treatment available.

Those are some pretty bold claims! :)



Oh this should be good..........


What is better than finasteride except finasteride and Rogaine ?
 

HT55

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follicle84 said:
RU58841 supposivelly


I have heard all sorts of stories about RU but if it worked better than propecia I believe a lot more people would be using it regardless of how hard it is to get.

If i remember correctly this was supposed to be a hair loss break through about 5 or so years ago.

From what i see it never panned out
 

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HT55 said:
Oh this should be good..........

What is better than finasteride except finasteride and Rogaine ?

Dr. Proctor (who has been in this business for about the last 25 years or so) has made the equally bold statement that Proxiphen is "unquestionably more effective than finasteride alone". I have no particular reason to doubt his judgement.
 

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Bryan said:
HT55 said:
Oh this should be good..........

What is better than finasteride except finasteride and Rogaine ?

Dr. Proctor (who has been in this business for about the last 25 years or so) has made the equally bold statement that Proxiphen is "unquestionably more effective than finasteride alone". I have no particular reason to doubt his judgement.

Wait isn't that the stuff you used and had pics posted somewhere ?

Edit

Yes it was you , I found the link but the pictures won't show.

You had basically ZERO growth from Proxiphen but claim it's the best thing out there.

Please expalin or post some photos or both
 

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HT55 said:
Wait isn't that the stuff you used and had pics posted somewhere ?

Nope. Those are pics of my Prox-N usage, not Proxiphen.

HT55 said:
You had basically ZERO growth from Proxiphen but claim it's the best thing out there.

It's misleading to say that I had "zero" growth; you can clearly see the thickening-up and increased pigmentation around my baldspot. And again, it was from Prox-N, not Proxiphen.

BTW, it's absurd for you to use just _my_ own personal results as a single test of any particular medication. Some guys state that they have no results at all from using Rogaine or Propecia, just continued loss, despite the fact that there are published studies in medical journals PROVING their effectiveness. The fact that I would actually noticeably improve a little after two full years of using nothing but Prox-N clearly demonstrates that it works, even if not spectacularly in my own individual case.

I state again that Dr. Proctor has seen the effects of prescription Proxiphen for YEARS in many many patients, and I have no particular reason to doubt his judgement that it's more effective (overall) than Propecia.
 

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Bryan said:
HT55 said:
Wait isn't that the stuff you used and had pics posted somewhere ?

Nope. Those are pics of my Prox-N usage, not Proxiphen.

HT55 said:
You had basically ZERO growth from Proxiphen but claim it's the best thing out there.

It's misleading to say that I had "zero" growth; you can clearly see the thickening-up and increased pigmentation around my baldspot.

BTW, it's absurd for you to use just _my_ own personal results as a single test of any particular medication. Some guys state that they have no results at all from using Rogaine or Propecia, just continued loss, despite the fact that there are published studies in medical journals PROVING their effectiveness. The fact that I would actually noticeably improve a little after two full years of using nothing but Prox-N clearly demonstrates that it works, even if not spectacularly in my own individual case.

I state again that Dr. Proctor has seen the effects of prescription Proxiphen for YEARS in many many patients, and I have no particular reason to doubt his judgement that it's more effective (overall) than Propecia.


Well certainly there must be photos of many guys with outstanding results, can you point me to some ?

Here are my results about 18 months on Propecia, Foam (2 cans a month ) and Nizoral 2%. I was going to get 3K grafts with Dr Shapiro in Aig 2007, I now "don't need any work " and those words are from Dr Shapiro's mouth.


Until I see some photos of ANYTHING Else working better than the big 3 I will declare them the hands down winner, Btw I was 38 when I started the drugs.

http://s525.photobucket.com/albums/cc340/mikeb5555/

All photos taken under DIRECT flourescent light
 

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HT55 said:
Well certainly there must be photos of many guys with outstanding results, can you point me to some ?

Sure, go to Dr. Proctor's own site for some interesting before-and-after pics:

www.drproctor.com

There are some good ones right there on the top page. That top trio of pics is one of the most amazing ones I've ever seen. For more, click on the "Pictures" button.
 

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Bryan said:
HT55 said:
Well certainly there must be photos of many guys with outstanding results, can you point me to some ?

Sure, go to Dr. Proctor's own site for some interesting before-and-after pics:

http://www.drproctor.com

There are some good ones right there on the top page. That top trio of pics is one of the most amazing ones I've ever seen. For more, click on the "Pictures" button.

FOUR before and after Photos ? Are you kidding me ? In TERRIBLE lighting no less and one is a WOMAN with Alopecia Areata.


How come I haven't seen all these great before and afters on any of the major hair loss websites ? Or any ?


For a guy who backs everything he says up with facts this one is VERY lacking in so many areas

Not to mention $160/month for everything you need.

Seems like a GREAT deal, lol
 

Bryan

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HT55 said:
FOUR before and after Photos ?

Four SETS of before-and-after photos. A total of nine pics, altogether.

HT55 said:
Are you kidding me ? In TERRIBLE lighting no less and one is a WOMAN with Alopecia Areata.

Yes. He generally just snaps Polaroids of his patients.

HT55 said:
How come I haven't seen all these great before and afters on any of the major hair loss websites ? Or any ?

Those pics and that site have been linked numerous times on hair loss Web sites.

HT55 said:
For a guy who backs everything he says up with facts this one is VERY lacking in so many areas

Hmmm.....okay, whatever.

HT55 said:
Not to mention $160/month for everything you need.

Proxiphen costs $100/month, at the recommended dose.

HT55 said:
Seems like a GREAT deal, lol

I wonder what the people in those pics think about whether or not it's a great deal! :)
 

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It's idiotic to compare Bryan's result with Prox-n with other drugs. And quite frankly it show lack of knowledge about hair loss.

The best way to treat hair loss is preventing hair loss. Once you have a SLICK baldspot you have to be fairly lucky with finasteride or minoxidil to get ANY growth besides peach fuzz. The Doctor thats sell Proxiphen(-N) say you have minimal chances of regrowth if you are slick bald, that's quite honest in "this" business(hair loss products). What actually makes the Proxiphen picture impressive is that he grows terminal hair, aka hair with color and not just peach fuzz.

There are NO wonderproducts in hairloss, the thing that's nice about Proxiphen is that it contains a bunch of ingredients that have been shown to grow hair.

finasteride is by far the easiest drug to use, but if one get sides, I rather use one product that contain a bunch of ingredients that a PhD/MD have put together instead of becoming my own researcher/chemist and maybe get poor results.
I think Dr. Proctor have said that if he finds a ingredient that works, he'll put it in the mix, that should say enough about what kind of drug Proxiphen is. It's a combo.
 

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I just wonder why all the guys with success stories used only finasteride or minoxidil. I haven't seen any success story with proxiphen or pro-n, except Bryan.
 
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