so my "finasteride Sides" dissapeared.

[Finish line]

.. after I quit drinking and started working out.

weak erection was really just drinking beer every night and horrible diet/sleeping habits. I mean every night for years.

gyno was really just being 35 pounds overwreight and having a layer of fat from my belly right up to my chest and onto my face and head.

I started running daily six months ago and didn't try to change anything else, I knew it would change itself.

Weight dropped off and performance and mileage increased.. then plateaued. A month ago I was able to quit drinking. The running won out over it.

Then I've been able to hold steady with that, increase my mileage. I added an ab roller to strengthen the core.

As my body "dried out" from the alcohol and my clarity of mind returned with a new diet, I began sleeping normal hours again.

Guess what's happening? My hard ons are instant, big, I mean super big, like bulbous, and all systems feel amazing. My "gyno" has disappeared as the fat on my body reeled in. I wasn't meant to be 204. I was meant to be 165.

The whole time I blamed it all on finasteride. It was the finasteride.

in truth, I was never suffering any side effects.



PS, another thing. Drunks tend to forget their regimen.

They say, oh, minoxidil "quit working for me". When in fact they might have patchy at best applications. You need to take your finasteride EVERY day. You need to apply minoxidil every day. Can't miss three days there, a week here, a month there.

It doesn't work that way.

Anyway, I'm running 70-80 miles a week now. I started at a painful 25 per week. Lean and mean. I'll add weights when it gets cold out. But my goal is to be athletic, not a meat head. Boxer, not juicer.

 

[Cassin]

Good for you!!!!!!!!!!

I think many need to share your story.

 

[ali777]

70-80 miles a week is a bit too much? That would be the distance for someone training for marathons. I used to do 6 miles sessions, and although running is good, I couldn't see any benefits after awhile.

I think 3 times a week maybe 5 miles each time is more realistic target? I like mixing in a bit of cycling or sprinting into my exercise routine.

I agree about the alcohol though. I drink very rarely in the last 3 years, and I went a full year without any alcohol. I was never an alcoholic but my head has definitely cleared up. I've seen a documentary on health once, and some scientists claim that alcohol effects the brain.

I also went from 205-210 to 160-165 pounds. The difference between my maximum and minimum weight is 50 pounds. Now I am trying to put on a bit of a muscle weight, I would like to be muscular 175.

 

[Finish line]

Realistic? For me or you? I don't know what you mean?

that's the weekly distance I'm currently running, not something I'm aspiring to. And you and I are different people, of course. I have a fifteen mile course, an eight mile course, and a six mile course, which I've kinda stopped running after I made the new eight mile course.

By the way, you plateaued is what happened. You needed to change your routine.


But congrats on your own success!

I'm going to switch to cycling, weight training, and elliptical machine when the weather cools down, then back on the road in the spring.

 

[optimus prime]

When you were doing this life changing exercise, was there rocky music in the back ground?

 

[ali777]

When you were doing this life changing exercise, was there rocky music in the back ground?

I prefer running without music. The beat of the songs disturb my running tempo.

Realistic? For me or you? I don't know what you mean?

that's the weekly distance I'm currently running, not something I'm aspiring to. And you and I are different people, of course. I have a fifteen mile course, an eight mile course, and a six mile course, which I've kinda stopped running after I made the new eight mile course.

OK, let's say you run 80 miles a week, that's 3 marathons a week, or almost a half a marathon each day. Also, let's assume you are relatively good at it and you manage to run a mile in 8 mins. So every week you run 640 mins. That's 90 mins a day. Add the warm up and warm down times, the shower time, the pasta eating time, etc.... The whole process takes 3 hours a day?

80 miles a week is possible, but unrealistic for a normal person. Not many people can dedicate 3 hours a day for running. Besides, running long distance is very hard on the knees and hips. I also believe any sports should be done every other day instead of every day. The body needs 48 hours to recover.

I don't think anyone would recommend running half a marathon each day. Maybe 2-3 times a week, but not everyday.

By the way, you plateaued is what happened. You needed to change your routine.


But congrats on your own success!

I'm going to switch to cycling, weight training, and elliptical machine when the weather cools down, then back on the road in the spring.

I used to do 6 miles every other day in 2006. I got bored after 6 months, apart from burning fat it wasn't really doing anything for me. I play football (soccer) sometimes, and I realised running long distance was eating my sprints. So, I stopped running at a constant tempo and I added sprints into my training sessions.

 

[Nathaniel]

Yeah I noticed the same thing - although I wasn't blaming finasteride. I dropped from 185 to 160, my sluggishness disappeared and my erections also improved. I am currently working with weights to put lean muscle and stay at around 170.

 

[Norsk]

Good for you! I'm already skinny as hell, though. And I have never touched alcohol. Still I suffer from sides even post-finasteride.

 

[FreeloaderUK]

are you on anyother medication. I myself take tablets to prevent migraine only one of the side effects is weight-gain. after I stopped taking them for a few days I noticed my hunger dropped- which explains why ive put on 7lbs over the last few weeks.

 

[Finish line]

Nope, no other meds. Just minoxidil.

And Optimus, since I'm not schizophrenic, there were unfortunately no background noises. But it's nice to know you're getting music.

And Alli777, I don't know what to tell you, lol. I run alot. And other people do it to, I'm not some freak of nature. I'm sorry that seems to have flustered you

Do your thang

 

[ali777]

Nope, no other meds. Just minoxidil.

And Optimus, since I'm not schizophrenic, there were unfortunately no background noises. But it's nice to know you're getting music.

And Alli777, I don't know what to tell you, lol. I run alot. And other people do it to, I'm not some freak of nature. I'm sorry that seems to have flustered you

Do your thang

Respect man...

Good luck with it :bravo:

 

[threats77]

theres no way you can adapt to that in 6 months considering you just quit drinking a month ago..no way at all..what yer doing is def not healthy..no way yer body can handle all that running especially since you started only 6 months ago..heck im 25 and been playing sports my whole life and i run about 3 miles a day 4-5 days a week..by the end of the week..my legs are sore as hell..im pretty athletic...im sorry i just dont buy the 80 miles a week..if you were really doin that..you wouldnt be on a message board..something def isnt right about your post

 

[kadosh]

he didnt say how fast he is running.
he could be running realy slow .

 

[bubka]

theres no way you can adapt to that in 6 months considering you just quit drinking a month ago..no way at all..what yer doing is def not healthy..no way yer body can handle all that running especially since you started only 6 months ago..heck im 25 and been playing sports my whole life and i run about 3 miles a day 4-5 days a week..by the end of the week..my legs are sore as hell..im pretty athletic...im sorry i just dont buy the 80 miles a week..if you were really doin that..you wouldnt be on a message board..something def isnt right about your post

Three miles a day is nothing. That is not even 20 minutes of running at a descent pace. It is amazing what I find "pretty athletic" these days, not trying to personally bash you. I don't think you know how addictive long distance running can become. I am talking 2+ hour runs. Once you get to a point, it seems like your can take your body anywhere.

I personally did the same thing as I was like 220lbs and went down to 165 in about 4 months by running 5 days a week and quit eating junk foods.

 

[ali777]

theres no way you can adapt to that in 6 months considering you just quit drinking a month ago..no way at all..what yer doing is def not healthy..no way yer body can handle all that running especially since you started only 6 months ago..heck im 25 and been playing sports my whole life and i run about 3 miles a day 4-5 days a week..by the end of the week..my legs are sore as hell..im pretty athletic...im sorry i just dont buy the 80 miles a week..if you were really doin that..you wouldnt be on a message board..something def isnt right about your post

I think it's possible to get into it in 6 months. I used to go jogging as well, and after 3 months I could run for an hour without stopping. I still don't think it's healthy though. This sort of distance goes into endurance training, rather than the more healthier cardio or strength training.

 

[threats77]

theres no way you can adapt to that in 6 months considering you just quit drinking a month ago..no way at all..what yer doing is def not healthy..no way yer body can handle all that running especially since you started only 6 months ago..heck im 25 and been playing sports my whole life and i run about 3 miles a day 4-5 days a week..by the end of the week..my legs are sore as hell..im pretty athletic...im sorry i just dont buy the 80 miles a week..if you were really doin that..you wouldnt be on a message board..something def isnt right about your post

Three miles a day is nothing. That is not even 20 minutes of running at a descent pace. It is amazing what I find "pretty athletic" these days, not trying to personally bash you. I don't think you know how addictive long distance running can become. I am talking 2+ hour runs. Once you get to a point, it seems like your can take your body anywhere.

I personally did the same thing as I was like 220lbs and went down to 165 in about 4 months by running 5 days a week and quit eating junk foods.

no offense taken! i dont think you have to be athletic to run..i am pretty dam athletic,played basketball all through highschool and college and still play to this day and also played some college baseball...i can run more than 3 miles a day,but choose not to cuz thats not what im going for,to do all that in 6 months doesnt seem possible and yes i totally understand how people are addicted to running..but 80 miles a week from someone who was lazy..no way..dont buy it..this is the internet and 80% of people here bullshit alot..i do 3 miles in about 19-22 minutues..80 miles a week for someone who hasnt been doing this for over a year seems not healthy at all for yer body,im just saying i doubt a regular joe can do this week in and week out without rest

also someone mentioned about who has the time to run 80 miles a week..unless yer a filthy rich mother f****r or a pro,,no way a regular joe can run 80 miles..just dont buy it..just by the way he writes it sounds like hes exaggerating..like i said..i dont buy what hes saying 100%

 

[Finish line]

I just came in the door from my fifteen mile course. Funny, according to some of you, I should be on my death bed. Lol.

Dudes, I have girlfriends who run eight and twelve mile courses daily.

I'm serious... girls.

I hate to break this to you but 20 - 30 miles a week, or 3 or 6 mile courses ... ain't sh*t. Even though that's how I started. But training a couple miles here and there... for baseball... is not the same thing as distance training.

Okay, I'll be a little more forthcoming, I was on the elliptical machine at the gym several months prior to starting my running. Even though I was still a slob, still drinking, I'd had some preparedness and had made a beginning point.

Also, I was a runner waay before all this (years ago) so I know what I'm doing.

Anyway, I ran eight miles yesterday, fifteen today, and I'll probably do fifteen tommorrow.





But I'm done. Nothing to prove to any of you .

The whole point of this thread is this:

After

A) initiating serious cardiovascular workouts (your c*** is one big vein. If your heart/lungs/blood vessels aren't powerful/healthy YOU and YOUR c*** aren't powerful/healthy)

B) cleaning out my diet, getting rid of sodium, sugar, nitrates, CRAP

C) sleeping regularly

D) eliminating alcohol consumption


My body was able to return to a state that existed beneath what I termed "finasteride side effects" that were really nothing more than being fat, lazy, self abused, and a liar to myself.

That's it. That's my story. Flip it, spin it, take a sh*t on it, I don't care

It is what it is. The truth.

 

[Finish line]

this is for all you long term, heavy drinkers out there.

A cause of gyno is alcoholism:

one result of alcoholism

 

[eXVee]

Propecia has it's sides, but I'm pretty sure that with a lot of people it's just in the head or an unhealthy lifestyle.

 

[Finish line]

I think it's a low percentage, just like it was claimed. I think the whole issue of "sides" is overblown on this forum and people really need to analyze how they are living, how they treat their bodies, before they go making a self diagnosis for side effects based on a hunch.