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finfighter said:
Well that's why I did not include it in the guide. There are no studies to demonstate its efficacy, and I have not heard any anecdotal reports that demonstrate its efficacy either. Accept for one report from Bryan, it takes more than one report to convince me...


As far as I know Bryan has NEVER even used Proxiphen and if he did I find it strange that he took photos of his Prox n results but not photos while using "(arguably) be the most effective treatment of all" as one would think such a remarkable product would have given him some real regrowth.
 

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finfighter said:
Well that's why I did not include it in the guide. There are no studies to demonstate its efficacy, and I have not heard any anecdotal reports that demonstrate its efficacy either. Accept for one report from Bryan, it takes more than one report to convince me...

Huh? What about those dozen rave reviews of Dr. Proctor's products that I've posted in the past? Why haven't you taken those into consideration? :dunno:
 

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I'll post them again here in this thread. Give me a few minutes to find them...
 

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Here are a few posts I culled just from alt.baldspot by searching on the word "Proxiphen". I count 12 individuals (including well-known ones like John Ertel and Will Brink!) who claim success with Proxiphen, and please note that this is certainly not a COMPLETE list, just a few I found until I got tired of wading through unrelated posts from people about how much does it cost, what's in it, how do I get a prescription for it, etc. etc. And yes, I also found some posts from people who didn't get any results from Proxiphen! However, I don't _have_ to actually compare the number of happy and unhappy users, my only purpose here is to put the lie to what the non-believers say! To save a little space, I took the liberty of snipping some of the more long-winded posts. Without further ado:


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From: KCOBURN
([email protected])
Subject: Proxiphen good for hairline
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 2002-02-04 06:33:41 PST

I used to use dr. p's proxiphen (px strength) on my hairline with minoxidil. Id apply minoxidil, wait 20 minutes and dab proxiphen on it. Proxiphen would last me about 3 months. I stopped using it because it grew too much hair and I had to shave an even line. I am a good responded to treatments so take what i am saying with a grain of salt but I am going back on it because it kept my hairline thick and definitely grew nonvellous and intermediate hairs for me. I do recommend it and no i dont work for Dr. P. If nothing else apply it at your hairlne and back so it wont recede anymore, and consider any growth a bonus, a bonus you could very well get.


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From: Chuck
([email protected])
Subject: Re: Proxiphen good for hairline
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 2002-02-06 12:30:54 PST

I've had very good results with Dr. P's Formulas and have posted this before. I will post specifically about this when I have a little more time. Believe it or not, I think Dr. P's shampoo is a gift from God. I have 3 separate experiences of using it. Each time, it worked. Two of these experiences were with the shampoo alone. My most recent is nano mixed with Propecia, Nizoral, and Dp. P's Advanced Regrowth Formula from lef.org. After a month or so off of the shampoo, I am losing gobbs of hair in the drain. I will explain in more detail later.


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From: Todd Tomlinson
([email protected])
Subject: Re: *Proxiphen Users Please Read*
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 1998/01/10

I'm 40, have been balding since 20 and started on Proxiphen and Nano shampoo in October 96. I had lost 80-90% of the hair on top of my head with a little bit left at the front. With Proxiphen and Nano I saw pretty amazing results after 3-4 months (tons of short, thin, colorless hairs).
{snip}
Also, I know that people complain about $100/month for Proxiphen and that the ingredients may not add up to $100/month. For me it's an investment -- and research costs money. I would rather pay $100/month to Dr. P for Proxiphen, knowing that he's leading the way for new treatments... maybe $60 of my $100 will fuel the research that sparks something new that benefits all of us...


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From: calvin burnes ([email protected])
Subject: my experience w/ proxiphen and nano shampoo
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 1997/03/25

hello,

there have been some people on this newsgroup who have asked for success stories of people using proxiphen. so i thought i would share my experience with the formula.

i selected proxiphen for a couple of reasons. the most important reason is that i don't like having to put topical solutions on my scalp 2x/day. in the past, i have used rogaine, and my main complaint is that you have to apply it twice a day. i hate this, because i am a very active person, and i usually do at least 2 activities/day that makes me sweat (biking, running, etc). the makers of rogaine suggest that you wash off the solution if you are going to sweat. i assume this is to avoid getting the solution into the mucous membranes (eyes, nose, etc). and in fact, when i sweat when i have rogaine on, it gets in my eyes, and stings. and i am lazy, i don't want to have to shower several times/day to make sure that the solution is removed before engaging in activities which cause me to sweat. i also hate the idea of having a topical solution on my head most of the time. and i have a real life to live, so i don't want to spend a lot of time attending to my hair. so i really like that proxiphen is only applied 1x/day. i apply it at night right before i go to bed, and i wash it off first thing when i shower in the morning.

the other reason i leaned towards proxiphen is the idea of tolerence. i am not a scientist, so i don't know how much validity this theory has, but it does make sense to me. i worry that rogaine will eventually lose its effectiveness over time. dr P's theory is that proxiphen has an advantage over rogaine in that because it contains a wider variety of agents, one is less likely to develop tolerance to it.

the big question i had was would it work for me.

so i started using proxiphen/nano shampoo 6 months ago. i am 31 years of age. my hairbegan thinning at 27, and has thinned substantially over the last 18 months. it is also receding. no bald spots as of yet, but the thinning was getting embarrasing. i started to see results with proxiphen after 4.5 months. i noticed small, very blond hairs beginning to sprout along the edge of my hairline. i believe that these hairs are sprouting throughout my scalp, but they are only visible at the edges of the hairline (because they blend in with the rest of my hair). i also noticed that my hair seemed generally thicker. since then , my hair has continued to thicken. i would say that overall, my hair volume appears to be 10-20% thicker on the top of my head compared to when i began the treatment. nothing huge, but enough to make a difference in my mind. another added benefit is that the hair on the top of my hair now grows longer in length. before starting the treatment, i could not get the hair of the top of my head to grow very long. now i am going to have to start having it trimmed again. i also seem to shed less hair (decrease in hair fallout rate), and the hair line seems to be moving forward a bit with these small, blond hairs (i guess these a vellous hairs).

overall, i am happy with proxiphen/nano. the application requires minimal inconvenience, the side effects are none (provided i don't overdue the amount i put on each night: if i put too much on, sometimes my eyes sting), and the results are good. the product has met my expectations (and perhaps surpassed them). i plan to continue to use the product. since i am such a lazy slob, i look forward to reducing the application from 1x/day to once every other day in a few months. yes, the product is expensive, but i am fortunate to have the financial resources to pay for it and for me it is quite worth the money.

i may add internal proscar to my regime, to get more results and to decrease my dependency on any one single formula. but i am not yet decided on this point.

one thing i want to add: this newsgroup has been a great source of info for me. there are lots of great contributors here! thanx for all of your help. wishing you all thick and volumous heads of hair.


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From: John Ertel ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Proxiphen feedback
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 1996/09/13

I'm still having good results on the frontal hair line with proxiphen... as far as concerns, I haven't had any side effects nor has anybody else I know of... your only concern would be
whether you want to spend that much However, if you're ONLY treating the front hairline, one months treatment of proxiphen should last 2-4 months (depending on how much you use), making it only $25-50/mo. For me it didn't take much prox to get things started so you could probably easily stretch it out to a 4 month supply... however according to Dr. P and most people I've seen I may be the exception rather than the rule since for most people apparently it works better in back than in front. Like I said in a previous post though... you will be probably be able to tell within 4 months whether or not you will get any results at the hairline (my hairs started sprouting at 2 months) so why not spend the $100 for a 4 month supply... I believe dr. p offers a money back guarantee on the unused portion tho I don't know if this is only for nano/prox-n or for proxiphen too... i'm sure he'll pop in and say


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From: SForsgren
([email protected])
Subject: Re: Dr. Proctor's Proxiphen ---
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 1996/07/08

Scott here.

I'll only comment on my personal experience. I've used his stuff for 2 1/2 years. Let me ask this, "If it didn't work, why in the world would I waste the time using NANO everyday and Proxiphen, etc. twice a day?" It certainly doesn't benefit me any if it doesn't grow hair.

In the 2 1/2 years, my loss has slowed and probably almost stopped. I still have a few areas that I am working on, and I can tell you that his stuff is getting better and better. In just the last 2 years, I can really tell that the more recent Prox is more effective than what I tried 2 years ago.


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From: Mark D. ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Is Dr. P's Proxiphen-N
worth a shot?
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 2004-08-12 07:41:16 PST

"SzaszFan" wrote in message
news:BD404FE4.12985%enalg@yahoo
>
> So overall the Prox has been beneficial for you?

Sure! (See my other message elsewhere).

I think Proctor shoots good pool...!


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From: Will Brink
([email protected]/NOSPAM)
Subject: Re: Revivogen or Proxiphen
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 2000/06/02

{snip}
Prxiphen is the Rolls Royce of products in my view. If that does not grow hair on your head, nothing will at this point.


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From: Omar Muhammad Javaid
([email protected])
Subject: Re: Proxiphen
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 1996/02/14

John Janssen ([email protected]) wrote:
: ScottF is a broken record with his accolades about Proctor's goop. Just
: get as
: much info as you can from as many different sources as possible before
: you plunk down your hard earned bux. Good Luck.

Then I must be a broken record too--but in my case I have a science background as well. I've done the research--medline searches(yes, I've read the articles as well) and quite a few experiments on myself with a number of different "treatments." Nearly all of them were crap--except for Dr. Proctor's stuff.


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From: J. Patrick Sweeney
([email protected])
Subject: Re: Proxiphen
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 1998/09/10

I have had good results. initially I used it daily, then went to every other day or "maintenance mode"


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From: Cliff Thompson
([email protected])
Subject: Re: Proxiphen
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 1998/09/12

Just been using it just over two months along woth nano shampoo and conditioner. My results are good. I have small hair growth front and back and any new loss has stopped. Am not using anything else new so i am sure this is what is working for me. Cheers.


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From: MR ED10000
([email protected])
Subject: Proxiphen...My observation
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 1996/03/10

OK, I have been very weary of posting this for a while because it seems that everytime someone posts something positive about Proxiphen they are called an agent for Dr Proctor, or at least something to that effect. I have been using Proxiphen for 10 months now and I must say the results are very good. I have used Rogaine (1 year) = retin a (6 months.) I did see minimal success but none of which was satisfactory for me. The recession (sp) continued with Rogaine and was slower with the added Retin-a. However, I could say now, without a doubt that Proxiphen, especially when used with NANO Shampoo is the best treatment available today. No, it is not a wonder drug and Dr. Proctor is fully aware of that, but until we do have a wonder drug I will continue to use this treatment.
 

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Bryan said:
finfighter said:
Well that's why I did not include it in the guide. There are no studies to demonstate its efficacy, and I have not heard any anecdotal reports that demonstrate its efficacy either. Accept for one report from Bryan, it takes more than one report to convince me...

Huh? What about those dozen rave reviews of Dr. Proctor's products that I've posted in the past? Why haven't you taken those into consideration? :dunno:


You mean in the 15 years it's been out you found a WHOLE DOZEN rave reviews, some of which were from people also using Propecia and Rogaine, SHOCKING ! LOL
 

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Dermatopoietin:

Dermatopoietin® is our trade name for interleukin-1 alpha (IL-1 alpha), a cytokine of 159 amino acids. IL-1 alpha is best known to biologists as pyrogen and pro-inflammatory compound involved in the regulation of immune responses. But it is much more than that: as a pleiotropic factor it is expressed in many different tissues and exerts distinct and site-specific effects.

In normal human epidermis IL-1 alpha is produced on a constitutive basis by keratinocytes in substantial amounts. Growing evidence suggests that it plays an essential role in skin homeostasis and in the regulation of hair growth.


http://www.dermatopoietin.ch/index.php

DERMATOPOIETINTM activates genes encoding growth
factors such as keratinocyte growth factor (KGF)1-3,
hepatocytes growth factor (HGF)1, granulocytemacrophage
growth factor (GM-CSF)4, and transforming
growth factor-alpha (TGF-alpha)5. These growth factors,
in turn, initiate a cascade of events leading to fibroblast
and keratinocyte proliferation, keratinocyte migration6,7,
and entire skin renewal.

There are genes of extracellular matrix components such
as collagen8,9, fibronectin10, elastin11,
glycosaminoglycan10, and tissue inhibitor of
metalloproteinase (TIMP)8 that are directly or non-directly
regulated by DERMATOPOIETINTM. For instance it
stimulates collagen production nearly 2-fold and mRNA
levels of type I and III collagen over 2.5-fold9.
DERMATOPOIETINTM suppress expression of
connective tissue growth factor (CTGF), a major
fibrogenic factor responsible for excessive scarring or
keloid formation through promoting proliferation and
collagen synthesis of mesenchymal cells12

http://www.even-swiss.ch/docs/advancedreview.pdf

In a response to a question to someone:

Theoretically, the peptide composition that is used in our product may be useful under Androgenetic Alopecia, but we emphasize that no valid clinical data we have on the date. The site of action of our peptides are dermal papilla cells (DPC), the fibroblast-like cells involved in regulation of hair cycle. In accordance with in vitro data, the first peptide, rh-Polypeptide-17, stimulates DPC to produce PN1, a reliable marker of anagenic follicles. The PN1 is known inhibitor of serine proteses implicated in hair loss. The presence of PN1 indicates that the hair in growth phase. Besides that in vitro data suggest that the polypeptide induces expression of a set of growth factors (KGF, GM-CSF) required for hair growth. Also, the peptide induces decrease in number of androgen receptors on DPC. The last fact suggests that the peptide could be useful for Androgenetic Alopecia, but it is in vitro data only and the hypothesis whether the product could be useful for cure Androgenetic Alopecia shall be examined in clinical trials. Second peptide, Hexapeptide-18 belongs to the class of peptides-activators of microcirculation.

They did do a pilot study: http://www.dermatopoietin.ch/show.php?name=Pilot%20Hair%20Loss%20Study%20with%20Dermatopoietin%AE
 

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There's also melatonin...procyanidins....apple stem cells (and other plant stem cells...see http://www.mibellebiochemistry.com/..._for_Longevity_of_Skin_and_Hair_SFW_05_08.pdf ).. Mulberry Root extract- http://www.fuji-sangyo.co.jp/english/product/index.html ...Laminaria digitata

Sorry about not posting all the info on them...but the info is out there.

Also Nanolipo-hGH:

All these diverse efficacies of NL-hGH
seem to indicate that somehow the skin
stem cells of the bulge or transiently amplifying
progenitor cells derived from
the bulge stem cells in the hair follicle
(Fig. 11), are influenced by the presence
of exogenous hGH and involved in the
pharmaceutical and cosmetic outcomes
of the topical NL-hGH application. Based
on this rationale, we further examined
whether hair (follicle) number or the hair
growth cycle of the mouse is affected by
the application of NL-hGH, using minoxidil
as a positive control. Mice were treated
for 2 weeks with NL-hGH after depilation
and before peritoneal BrdU injection
and subsequently sacrificed 3 hrs
after the injection. The results clearly
showed that NL-hGH application on the
back of the mouse increased not only the
hair number but potentially the hair
length and thickness. As, in a given hair
bulb, a more number of actively proliferating hair matrix cells is correlated
with longer duration of anagen phase,
thus with longer and thicker hair (17).
Minoxidil influenced on the hair number
as well, but not the hair length or thickness.
These results are summarized in
Fig. 12. Therefore NL-hGH was superior
to minoxidil in increasing both the hair
number and possibly the hair length and
thickness in the mouse experiments.
 

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You're welcome. Here's one like no other..as far as what they're trying to do. Hope you don't mind those still in the works..

OmegaGenesis- Based on the newly discovered angiogenic properties of inorganic nanorod materials

OmegaGenesis is developing a nanotechnology solution to treat hair loss resulting from natural or medically induced causes. Based on the newly discovered angiogenic properties of inorganic nanorod materials, we are developing a topical product to treat hair loss. The product enhances blood supply to hair follicle, stimulates the hair roots and invigorates the growth cycle of hair. A topical cream or gel will be applied to the scalp similar to other topical hair loss treatments. The nanorods are a size that allows penetration into the follicle cavity thereby allowing absorption in the dermal papilla. Data have shown both para- and intracellular transport of the nanorods indicating good percutaneous permeability characteristics. Our product will dispensed by a dropper, from a collapsible laminated tube or metered dose pump as needed to ensure consistent application rates and dosing schedule.

Application and Patient Benefit A topical product is under development for use in hair loss. The product will be applied on a routine basis over several weeks to months to stimulate new hair growth through follicle restoration. The product may be used for an indefinite period to maintain hair growth for patients with androgenic alopecia, a progressive condition. Once perifollicular vascularization has been stimulated, we anticipate a lower maintenance dose to reverse the effects of follicle shrinking. Further benefits may include accelerated hair regrowth and increased size of hair follicles and hair shafts.

OmegaGenesis developed a
nanotechnology method that externally
modulates blood supply to hair roots using
inorganic nanomaterials. To our knowledge, this
is the first nanotechnology product which works
locally to increase the active phase of hair
growth cycle without affecting regular blood
pressure or causing allergenic reactions.

The planned stages are:
• Pilot study completed and observed hair growth
• Material synthesis and formulation in progress for phase 2 pilot study – June, 2009
• Final Animal trials starts September 1, 2009
• Clinical trial proposed for February 1, 2010

OmegaGenesis has developed novel methods to safely generate large-scale quantities of the nano-scale europium europium hydroxide rods, which were first developed at the Mayo Clinic and shown to promote angiogenesis , the formation of new blood vessels. The company has established non-toxicity of the europium hydroxide nanorods in lab testing for human applications and pre-clinical studies for use of the nanorods in the treatment of wound healing, diabetic foot ulcers and hair growth are underway

http://www.omegagenesis.com/resources/pdfs/OmegaGenesis Product Overview - Hair Growth.pdf

http://www.omegagenesis.com/resources/pdfs/BioCentury_Emerging_Company_Profile_May2009.pdf

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Omega...technology+Platform+With+Broad...-a0190658055
 

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Not sure what you mean :dunno:

I'll PM it to you..see if that helps.

After I sent the PM I tinkered with the post a bit. Don't know if that helped.
 

Jacob

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Here it is in just "'s etc.



OmegaGenesis Based on the newly discovered angiogenic properties of inorganic nanorod materials

"OmegaGenesis is developing a nanotechnology solution to treat hair loss resulting from natural or medically induced causes. Based on the newly discovered angiogenic properties of inorganic nanorod materials, we are developing a topical product to treat hair loss. The product enhances blood supply to hair follicle, stimulates the hair roots and invigorates the growth cycle of hair. A topical cream or gel will be applied to the scalp similar to other topical hair loss treatments. The nanorods are a size that allows penetration into the follicle cavity thereby allowing absorption in the dermal papilla. Data have shown both para and intracellular transport of the nanorods indicating good percutaneous permeability characteristics. Our product will dispensed by a dropper, from a collapsible laminated tube or metered dose pump as needed to ensure consistent application rates and dosing schedule.

Application and Patient Benefit A topical product is under development for use in hair loss. The product will be applied on a routine basis over several weeks to months to stimulate new hair growth through follicle restoration. The product may be used for an indefinite period to maintain hair growth for patients with androgenic alopecia, a progressive condition. Once perifollicular vascularization has been stimulated, we anticipate a lower maintenance dose to reverse the effects of follicle shrinking. Further benefits may include accelerated hair regrowth and increased size of hair follicles and hair shafts."

"OmegaGenesis developed a
nanotechnology method that externally
modulates blood supply to hair roots using
inorganic nanomaterials. To our knowledge, this
is the first nanotechnology product which works
locally to increase the active phase of hair
growth cycle without affecting regular blood
pressure or causing allergenic reactions."

"The planned stages are:
Pilot study completed and observed hair growth
Material synthesis and formulation in progress for phase 2 pilot study – June, 2009
Final Animal trials starts September 1, 2009
Clinical trial proposed for February 1, 2010"

"OmegaGenesis has developed novel methods to safely generate large-scale quantities of the nano scale europium europium hydroxide rods, which were first developed at the Mayo Clinic and shown to promote angiogenesis , the formation of new blood vessels. The company has established non-toxicity of the europium hydroxide nanorods in lab testing for human applications and pre-clinical studies for use of the nanorods in the treatment of wound healing, diabetic foot ulcers and hair growth are underway"

http://www.omegagenesis.com/resources/pdfs/OmegaGenesis Product Overview - Hair Growth.pdf

http://www.omegagenesis.com/resources/pdfs/BioCentury_Emerging_Company_Profile_May2009.pdf

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Omega...technology+Platform+With+Broad...-a0190658055
 

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Wow... this thread sure gives a different picture than the one you find from clicking the * Start Here * tab.

I just went through their 4 step thing and was fed the idea that revivogen was basically a side-effect free alternative to propecia. Finfighter, you don't even think it worthy to be mentioned as a viable hairloss treatment at all.

They also claim that spironolactone has no side effects and recommend it being used in conjunction with revivogen to replace propecia, while you caution its use entirely?

Really don't know what to believe here. I want to start a hair-loss regimen asap, but I'm hearing two completely opposite things.
 

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Gotcha. I wasn't familiar with the term topically.

Thanks to this thread I think I've figured out what I want my regimen to be.
-Finasteride
-Minoxidil
-spironolactone
-Nizoral (already been using it for 2 years)

Still undecided on tricomin.
 

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finfighter said:
I saw your pics in your thread and your hair loss appears minimal at this stage (If you have male pattern baldness at all).
In your case you could probably maintain on Finasteride alone, Minoxidil and Nizoral wouldn't hurt though. Your hair looks really good from the pics though. (FYI)
It is the best time to treat hair loss before it gets noticeable though. My hair looked like yours at the start of male pattern baldness.

I made that thread in late 2008 or early 2009. After doing so, I went on a 2 year hiatus thanks to short term re-growth from nizoral. I rediscovered this board and username today because receding has accelerated in the past 8 months or so. I just took some pics now.

http://img191.imageshack.us/i/p1020106l.jpg/
http://img545.imageshack.us/i/p1020093k.jpg/
http://img545.imageshack.us/i/p1020087b.jpg/
http://img6.imageshack.us/i/p1020088s.jpg/
 

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There is so much information here and I thank you VERY much for it all. Even though I am female, I have passed menopause and am going to try some treatments from the men's side of things.

What I don't find here on GourmetStyleWellness is more detailed regimen information.

What can be used on top of what else, topically? I am retired and can space treatments out if need be, or just rotate items on different days.

So, I have Rogaine Foam, Tricomin, Revivogen, Nizoral, and the S5 cream in front of me and don't know where to start.

first i wash my hair with Nizoral, then dry it and use the Rogaine, right?

Then what?

I'm not looking for miracles, but just want to avoid nasty reactions or things that would cause me to quit too soon.

Thanks so much. Cheri in Anaheim
 

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This is a great thread. Maybe the core info can be made a sticky?

There are also treatments such as Nanogen Serum VEGF, and Pure Guild Serum. Someone else may have more info on them.
 

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mitzkity said:
There is so much information here and I thank you VERY much for it all. Even though I am female, I have passed menopause and am going to try some treatments from the men's side of things.

What I don't find here on GourmetStyleWellness is more detailed regimen information.

What can be used on top of what else, topically? I am retired and can space treatments out if need be, or just rotate items on different days.

So, I have Rogaine Foam, Tricomin, Revivogen, Nizoral, and the S5 cream in front of me and don't know where to start.

first i wash my hair with Nizoral, then dry it and use the Rogaine, right?

Then what?

I'm not looking for miracles, but just want to avoid nasty reactions or things that would cause me to quit too soon.

Thanks so much. Cheri in Anaheim
What's your diagnosis? I recently had an interesting discussion with my grandmother, which is a retired nurse, about andropause and menopause. I was talking about men, and how their testosterone production gradually declines over the years as we age, and how it affects the body when the testosterone/estrogen ratio shifts to estrogen dominance. She told me that the opposite happens to women; the ratio shifts towards androgens, which may cause hirutism and a lot of other problems. Changes in hormone levels may cause hairloss. If you're not suffering from androgenic alopecia, I suggest that you do some research on hormone replacement therapy.

If you're not interested; is your scalp healthy? I wouldn't bother using Nizoral if it is. Use Rogaine foam according to the instruction. Forget about other treatments for now. Do some research on Eucapil (fluridil) if androgens are the problem. It's considered as a weak anti-androgen for men, but you're a woman.
 

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If it hasn't been mentioned already..there are those Caregen related products...I noticed they have the DermaHeal hair loss in a gel now..to be used(is my guess) with one of this ultrasound/sonic devices: http://dermahealproducts.com/dermaheal-hair loss-gel-anti-hair-loss.html
 

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Jacob said:
If it hasn't been mentioned already..there are those Caregen related products...I noticed they have the DermaHeal hair loss in a gel now..to be used(is my guess) with one of this ultrasound/sonic devices: http://dermahealproducts.com/dermaheal-hair loss-gel-anti-hair-loss.html

Looks like that page has been taken off the site. They do list another DermaHeal product -- is this basically the same thing?

http://dermahealproducts.com/topical-stem-c-rum-hair loss.html
 
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