The Stats On Balding Are Complete Horsesh*tt

[Allen Li]

As stated, a juvenile hairline at age 25 does not in any way guarantee you will not succumb to male pattern baldness at some point later in your life.

Some men simply never lose any of their hair to male pattern baldness. I saw a man who appeared to be in his 80s earlier today who had a thick Nw1. I also know a guy who was a Nw7 at age 20. Its all down to your genes.

Ethnicity is a big factor in the prevalence of male pattern baldness. Caucasians are the most prone, followed closely by Afro-Caribbeans. Asians have a much lower incidence of male pattern baldness, and aborigine australians even lower. Native Americans are pretty much immune, assuming they are full-blooded.

Yup i agree its down to genetics. Ethnicity also plays a big role. Caucasions bald the most on average. But majority will see atleast some thinning or receding with age. If they live long enough.

 

[Mitko1]

So do you know anyone with juvenile hairline who has lost it later in life? I personally don't. I don't say that guys with juvenile hairlines are safe from experiencing hair loss, but they are safe for sure from the most common form of hair loss - androgenetic alopecia. They have won the genetic lottery and their bodies either don't respond with DHT to inflammation or they have genetic resistance against DHT inducing calcification and fibrosis.
They aren't still safe from experienceing telogen effluvium, fungal infection, alopecia areata, diffuse alopecia...

 

[Mandar kumthekar]

I started to get grey hairs at the age of 16 and I'm diffuse thinning now at the age of 26.

Me too, graying has nothing to with baldness. If that were case all old people would be bald.

 

[Allen Li]

So do you know anyone with juvenile hairline who has lost it later in life? I personally don't. I don't say that guys with juvenile hairlines are safe from experiencing hair loss, but they are safe for sure from the most common form of hair loss - androgenetic alopecia. They have won the genetic lottery and their bodies either don't respond with DHT to inflammation or they have genetic resistance against DHT inducing calcification and fibrosis.
They aren't still safe from experienceing telogen effluvium, fungal infection, alopecia areata, diffuse alopecia...

No i do not. But you kinda said you are 100 percent safe from male pattern baldness if you have a juvenile hairline at 25 or 30 is safe. You never can be 100 percent safe no matter what age. Even if you are 45. You are more likely to keeep your hair but not 100 percent sure.

 

[Armando Jose]

Asian people tend to keep their hair longer. And their hairloss is less severe then whites.

Acording to my theory, people wth longer hair are less prone to develope common baldness. Women are an example..... also people with dense and thicker hair are more afortunate.

Ethnicity is a big factor in the prevalence of male pattern baldness. Caucasians are the most prone, followed closely by Afro-Caribbeans. Asians have a much lower incidence of male pattern baldness, and aborigine australians even lower. Native Americans are pretty much immune, assuming they are full-blooded.

Native Americans, Gipsies, etc, all with long hair, it is curious. Genes dictate density and thickness but all human beng can grow his scalp hair , it is only a cultural issue.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15142661
Cultural evolution as a possible triggering or causative factor of common baldness

 

[Michael1986]

So do you know anyone with juvenile hairline who has lost it later in life? I personally don't. I don't say that guys with juvenile hairlines are safe from experiencing hair loss, but they are safe for sure from the most common form of hair loss - androgenetic alopecia. They have won the genetic lottery and their bodies either don't respond with DHT to inflammation or they have genetic resistance against DHT inducing calcification and fibrosis.
They aren't still safe from experienceing telogen effluvium, fungal infection, alopecia areata, diffuse alopecia...

If someone has a juvenile hairline at age 25 (the age that you stated in your first post), it is a good indicator they will not get androgenetic alopecia later in life, but it is not an absolute guarantee. Even having a juvenile hairline at age 50 wouldn't absolutely guarantee you won't slowly lose hair during your 70s. Androgenetic alopecia is unpredictable in terms of the age of onset as well as the rate and the pattern of progression.

Acording to my theory, people wth longer hair are less prone to develope common baldness. Women are an example..... also people with dense and thicker hair are more afortunate.

What is the science behind that theory? This is the first I've heard of this theory.

 

[@GeraltOfRivia]

Asian people tend to keep their hair longer. And their hairloss is less severe then whites.[/QUOTE

Yes I am from asia and what you have said is true.Here you would have hard time in finding a young balding guy

 

[@GeraltOfRivia]

Me too, graying has nothing to with baldness. If that were case all old people would be bald.

Infact what i have observed is grey hair are generally stronger than the dark ones.I have fair amount of grey hairs at age of 21 and what I have observed is my grey hairs are thick ans strong.I rarely see them falling. Has anyone else observed this?

 

[Mitko1]

Asians have less of the enzyme converting testoterone into DHT and that's why they rarely go bald.

 

[Michael1986]

Infact what i have observed is grey hair are generally stronger than the dark ones.I have fair amount of grey hairs at age of 21 and what I have observed is my grey hairs are thick ans strong.I rarely see them falling. Has anyone else observed this?

It could just be that the grey hairs are harder to spot than the darker hairs when they fall out (e.g. when you're in the shower).
I honestly don't think there is any inverse correlation (or any correlation at all) between hair greying and hair loss. The two things have completely separate causes.

Asians have less of the enzyme converting testoterone into DHT and that's why they rarely go bald.

I would say it is more that they genetically have lower androgen sensitivity (perhaps they have a lower number of follicular androgen receptors on average), but the reason you mentioned could be a factor also.

 

[Armando Jose]

Acording to my theory, people wth longer hair are less prone to develope common baldness. Women are an example..... also people with dense and thicker hair are more afortunate.

What is the science behind that theory? This is the first I've heard of this theory.

Problems with sebum flow, hair fat is necesary for a healthy hair but we need produce and elminate continously and the friction with hair shaft is very important

 

[Yoadrian]

I’m obsessed with looking at other people’s hair nowadays... I do notice a few white men who are in their older ages (60s/70s) who have a full head of hair. Older women have such thick hair too!

God me 2. I"m obsessed with looking at other guys hair. i wish i was another religion..like the 1 where u wear a turban so i can cover my hairloss

 

[Mitko1]

We are discussing about males but what about females. Most women 50 or over have very bad density and thinning hair.

 

[Ikarus]

We are discussing about males but what about females. Most women 50 or over have very bad density and thinning hair.

I rarely see women over fifty who are losing hair...

 

[Mandar kumthekar]

I rarely see women over fifty who are losing hair...

You have not seen too many womens. Most women loose substantial hairs when they hit 50

 

[Hairicane]

You have not seen too many womens. Most women loose substantial hairs when they hit 50

That's what I see, women lose density all over the top of their heads after menopause, but don't go totally bald.

 

[Ikarus]

You have not seen too many womens. Most women loose substantial hairs when they hit 50

If they don't use HRT, of course some sort of thinning occurs. However if I went to somewhere such as the mall, I would nonstop see women in their 60s who have a full head of hair. I legitimately rarely do see women who are thinning.

 

[Hangin'on Hair]

for all intensive purposes..

Intents and purposes.

 

[Allen Li]

Well my mom is 52 and shes losing alot of density

 

[Hairicane]

If they don't use HRT, of course some sort of thinning occurs. However if I went to somewhere such as the mall, I would nonstop see women in their 60s who have a full head of hair. I legitimately rarely do see women who are thinning.

Oh yeah, it's rare. Compared to seeing men with thinning hair anyway.