The Stats On Balding Are Complete Horsesh*tt

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My dad's hair baffles me to this day. He's 50 and has a NW0 hairline (literally juvenile) with extremely dense long hair. I can only hope I go down that road as well. When you can be 50 years old and still gel your hair without seeing ANY scalp, you know God has a plan for you.

Also health concerns and balding is bullshit. My dad works really hard and has no time to live a "healthy" lifestyle. He's smoked cigarettes his whole life and has a tad bit of weight on him.
 

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My dad's hair baffles me to this day. He's 50 and has a NW0 hairline (literally juvenile) with extremely dense long hair. I can only hope I go down that road as well. When you can be 50 years old and still gel your hair without seeing ANY scalp, you know God has a plan for you.

Also health concerns and balding is bullshit. My dad works really hard and has no time to live a "healthy" lifestyle. He's smoked cigarettes his whole life and has a tad bit of weight on him.
What Norwood level are you? Is there hair loss on your maternal side?
 

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What Norwood level are you? Is there hair loss on your maternal side?
Check my posts. I'm pretty sure I'm NW0 rn. My maternal grandfather is also NW0 but his hair is not as thick as my dad. Only his crown is thin tho and it's not in a balding pattern. I believe it's CTE triggered by my aunt's passing 7 years ago, since it was fully dense before that.
 

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My dad's hair baffles me to this day. He's 50 and has a NW0 hairline (literally juvenile) with extremely dense long hair. I can only hope I go down that road as well. When you can be 50 years old and still gel your hair without seeing ANY scalp, you know God has a plan for you.

Also health concerns and balding is bullshit. My dad works really hard and has no time to live a "healthy" lifestyle. He's smoked cigarettes his whole life and has a tad bit of weight on him.

Godlike genetics, be happy for him and pray you inherited some.

My dad is in the exact same boat. Except he's 65. Funny thing is he doesn't even realize how lucky and rare his case is.
 

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Godlike genetics, be happy for him and pray you inherited some.

My dad is in the exact same boat. Except he's 65. Funny thing is he doesn't even realize how lucky and rare his case is.
How's your maternal side? Or more importantly, how's your hair?
 

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How's your maternal side? Or more importantly, how's your hair?

I think my maternal grandpa had male pattern baldness cause my mom told me he had a bald spot in his crown

But I don't think he developed it early on cause his hair looked fine in a pic of him at his 30s

As for my hair, I used to be a NW0 and receided to a 1.25-1.5 I believe, still no thinning

You can see my last thread about a month ago or less
 

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Godlike genetics, be happy for him and pray you inherited some.

My dad is in the exact same boat. Except he's 65. Funny thing is he doesn't even realize how lucky and rare his case is.
My 96 year old grandfather doesn't realize either. He just combs his hair every morning. To have a really juvenile hairline means to have the same hairline you used to when you were a child with perfectly rounded corners with even the baby hairs on the temples growing. The same hairline as a woman or no hair loss at all. That's really rare in whites when you are older.

I don't know why this happens but i noticed that people with thicker, longer hair go bald much later in life or never go bald and people with thinner, shorter hair go bald pretty early. Having thick hair means that your follicles are larger and produce longer hairs. All brunettes have similar numbers of follicles but different density. I don't know if these people are more prone to baldness but I noticed that some people (children) have naturally shorter and thinner hairs on the hairline in V - shaped pattern.
 

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My 96 year old grandfather doesn't realize either. He just combs his hair every morning. To have a really juvenile hairline means to have the same hairline you used to when you were a child with perfectly rounded corners with even the baby hairs on the temples growing. The same hairline as a woman or no hair loss at all. That's really rare in whites when you are older.

I don't know why this happens but i noticed that people with thicker, longer hair go bald much later in life or never go bald and people with thinner, shorter hair go bald pretty early. Having thick hair means that your follicles are larger and produce longer hairs. All brunettes have similar numbers of follicles but different density. I don't know if these people are more prone to baldness but I noticed that some people (children) have naturally shorter and thinner hairs on the hairline in V - shaped pattern.

If that was the case then the balding gene would be pretty uncommon in African communities given how dense and thick their hair is (think of the giant afros you see sometimes)

Congrats to your grandpa though, for winning the genetic lottery in every way possible

Would you happen to have pics of his hair?
 

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If that was the case then the balding gene would be pretty uncommon in African communities given how dense and thick their hair is (think of the giant afros you see sometimes)

Congrats to your grandpa though, for winning the genetic lottery in every way possible

Would you happen to have pics of his hair?
Blacks bald less often than white. And yes I have a picture
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of his hair.
 

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Blacks bald less often than white. And yes I have a picture View attachment 120928 of his hair.

The guy in the photo in the wall have a very good hair

i noticed that people with thicker, longer hair go bald much later in life or never go bald and people with thinner, shorter hair go bald pretty early

+1, I am with you, and I would add denser hair ;) This issue was my idea to develop a common har loss theory where problems with sebum flow is the initial cause of it.
 

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The guy in the photo in the wall have a very good hair



+1, I am with you, and I would add denser hair ;) This issue was my idea to develop a common har loss theory where problems with sebum flow is the initial cause of it.

The guy in the photo on the wall is me. This photo was taken in March 2018. I needed a photo for my high school diploma. My scalp and hair were in much better condition. These were the times before the thinning patches, seborrheic dermatitis, dandruff and excessive sebum production came.

The scalp tension theory about hair loss make most sense to me. After a boy hits puberty, the muscles surrounding the top of his head start to develop and then constantly contracting and tightening the scalp on top. This triggers an anti-inflammatory response and results in increased DHT conversion in the scalp. The tension is highest at the temples and vertex and that's why the hairline recedes. But i think it's also affected by what we eat, our hormonal levels and stress. As I wrote in my thread is probably dependent on your testoterone:estradiol ratio. The testoterone: estradiol ratio changes with age and that's why men bald more when older. Low testosterone: estradiol ratio increases inflammation and risk of arterial calcification and fibrosis. This probably one of the reason why many men keep the small recession they experienced in their teens for decades and then start balding quickly.
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