What The F*** Kind Of Hair Loss/thinning Am I Going Through??

[Cucumba]

So Around April last year, I went from having a fully covered thick head of hair to a very first circular bald spot! at the crown of my head. Then it started to thin out moderately.

I have posted some pics to get an idea of what you guys might think it is.
things you should know, when I had long hair I didn't really take the best care of it;
I would leave products on for days
working out and not washing my hair properly
wearing it in a really right pony tail and sleeping while it was still tied up

My hair line hasn't really receded but my hair has gone thinner to the point where my scalp is visible under direct sun light.

Lately I have been applying rice water and and it seems to be working as I can see fine hair growing in parts where it wasn't there to begin with.
[EDIT] When I say seeing growth, I mean like, really there are hair in parts of my head where they were obviously gone and even the bald circle of my crown is getting smaller.

At times I do feel this light burning sensation on my scalp and at the beginning there were occurrence of small red bumps on my scalp.

My family background my dad is bald but he is using some natural remedies and his hair is slowly coming back
my grand father had a full head of hair when he dies but from mother's side he was bald.
[EDIT] regardless of the history since childhood everyone used to say that my hair has gone my mother's genetics of being so darn thick and full while my sister got her's from my dad (being thin and all)
Please help!
I am also going to see a dermatologists next week just so I can nail down to what has really happened

 

[alekgn]

Very advanced diffuse hair loss. If I were you, since you've lost a f*** load already, I think shaving it might be more viable than any treatment could give you. But, if you really want to hope to get even a tiny, tiny amount of hair back, then Big 3 asap (Nizoral, Finasteride, Minoxidil).

 

[CrownBalding]

In my opinion, if you don’t want to shave it, I’d start with the big 3 like alekgn said. In the mean time maybe keep growing it out and see how it looks if you’d like. I’ve seen posts of diffusers like you that start the big 3 and grew their hair out and it looked like they had a huge improvement (could be improving from big 3 but length also seemed to help)

Also your dad isn’t growing his hair back with his natural remedies and rice water isn’t growing back any of your hair.

 

[HairIsThinning2018]

I am in similar situation as in hair line is fine but the rest is thinning.

Dude it happens fast I went from barber saying you're balding in FEB 2018, and me thinking what is this guy smoking?

To currently SEP 2018, looking in the mirror and seeing scalp in direct sunlight.

You have to act upon it, if you want to potentially save your hair.

EDIT - I started to experience hair loss in shower during my exams, this period was high stress and wasn't eating well.

You might be in a similar situation? The not eating and high stress didn't cause my hair loss, my hair loss was inevitable it just accelerated it as I have learn from this forum.

 

[recedingornot87]

If I was in your position I would jump straight to dutasteride,min,dermarolling. I know you don't want to hear this but using natural remedies is a waste of valuable time. Especially considering the fact that there is a good chance that even modern medicine won't be able to save your hair.

 

[alekgn]

If I was in your position I would jump straight to dutasteride,min,dermarolling. I know you don't want to hear this but using natural remedies is a waste of valuable time. Especially considering the fact that there is a good chance that even modern medicine won't be able to save your hair.

The only people who should be trying so-called natural remedies are those with no hair loss or mature hairlines, as they don't really have anything to lose in the immediate short-term. Ironically the people who aren't actively balding are the ones who should be trying them to see if they get improvements in density (if they're naturall low density), thickness, hairline lowering, etc.

 

[CrownBalding]

Try toppik as well, can work wonders

 

[Michael1986]

You have advanced diffuse loss. I recommend you get on dutasteride (basically a stronger version of finasteride) as soon as you can, and also use minoxidil.
One thing you need to know is that no known natural product or substance is able to effectively treat male-pattern baldness. Putting rice water in your hair is doing absolutely nothing for your hair loss. The natural remedies that your dad uses is also doing absolutely nothing for his hair loss. Natural doesn't work when it comes to hair loss.
If you decide not to use dutasteride (or finasteride), you are fighting a losing battle unfortunately. There are cosmetic "solutions" such as getting a hair system or getting scalp micro-pigmentation done. You could maybe look into these. They are far from being an ideal solution, but might be your best bet if you choose not to use hair loss medication.

 

[Cucumba]

What is advanced diffuse hairloss? Is it male patterned baldness?
If the natural remedies isn't working then how is my crown area getting better? (Not trying to attack but rather curious?

Thanks all for your precious time and effort

 

[CrownBalding]

What is advanced diffuse hairloss? Is it male patterned baldness?
If the natural remedies isn't working then how is my crown area getting better? (Not trying to attack but rather curious?

Thanks all for your precious time and effort

Placebo

 

[Cucumba]

One thing I also forgot to mention is that when I had long hair and noticed the first bald spot
Everytime I would comb my hair the comb would get stuck as if my hair was tangled up really bad and a lot of grey sticky gunk would be found on the comb after brushing.

This was done on wet hair.

 

[Michael1986]

What is advanced diffuse hairloss? Is it male patterned baldness?
If the natural remedies isn't working then how is my crown area getting better? (Not trying to attack but rather curious?

Thanks all for your precious time and effort

Diffuse hair loss is a form of male pattern baldness where you lose your hair in a diffuse manner with gradual overall thinning over the top and crown of your head rather than in the typical pattern of a receding hairline and a bald spot forming on the crown. Diffuse loss is still male pattern baldness, with the same underlying process of DHT destroying your follicles. Your own diffuse loss is advanced (severe).
As the above poster said, the fact that you think the rice water is growing your hair back is a placebo effect. The power of placebo can often be very strong. It is an absolute fact that rice water will do nothing for your hair loss. Going down the natural route doesn't work for male pattern baldness.

 

[Cucumba]

So if I dont get much back from the big 3's should I consider hair transplant? Now that I have read that diffuse thinner aren't the best candidate for hair transplant...also does this type ofhair loss lead to complete baldness?

Do you think my gaining a lot of size could have accelerated my progress?
I went from being 48 kgs to a solid 65 kg pure muscle 10% body fat in 3 years without steroids and that would obviously mean I had more testosterone available to be converted into dht?

 

[GreekGod]

Diffuse thinning everywhere but especially around the crown. People who know nothing about male pattern baldness like to talk about hairline recession as typical male pattern baldness, but thats BS. Each follicles resistance to DHT is usually different for each man (excluding the sides and back). The solution is always the same though: Get on propecia, minoxidil, and use nizoral shampoo twice a week. Or you could just shave your head, but I doubt you want to do that. If you're a good responder you could probably keep your hair for a while longer. And who knows, maybe there will be better hair loss solutions in a couple years. Good Luck

 

[GreekGod]

So if I dont get much back from the big 3's should I consider hair transplant? Now that I have read that diffuse thinner aren't the best candidate for hair transplant...also does this type ofhair loss lead to complete baldness?

Do you think my gaining a lot of size could have accelerated my progress?
I went from being 48 kgs to a solid 65 kg pure muscle 10% body fat in 3 years without steroids and that would obviously mean I had more testosterone available to be converted into dht?

Strength training causes your testosterone to increase but most derms agree that your DHT will only increase slightly. Besides a little while after the workout both will go back down anyways. Not to mention, exercise increases blood flow to hair follicles so it probably helps if anything.

 

[Cucumba]

Wait so would transplant be a good alternative? I have already got a number 6mm buzz cut turning 24 in a month.

Or should I see what I can gain or maintain from the big 3s? Would my hair still fall out after getting on these?

I mean I would like my hair to return back to it's original thickness but wouldn't mind a buzz cut as long as I dont really lose more hair and go completely bald.

 

[Cucumba]

So this is what my scalp looks like on a buzz the 1st one is with increased exposure if you zoom in you can see a lot of almost transparent hair and the 2nd is of crown with a little bit of growth than what it originally looked lik and the last is the top without exposure

 

[Michael1986]

Gaining or losing weight makes little to no difference to hair loss. Going to the gym and doing strength training also makes little to no difference.

The only thing currently available that really does work well for hair loss is finasteride or dutasteride. That is a fact which is important to know.

If I were in your shoes, I would start taking dutasteride as soon as possible. Your hair loss is severe, and you need to treat it aggressively. Dutasteride is essentially a stronger version of finasteride, and I'd say it is what you need. Also add minoxidil and Nizoral shampoo for added benefit.

If you want to get a transplant, it is not wise to do so without also being on hair loss medication. The transplanted hairs will be sensitive to DHT once they are moved to the balding zone of your scalp. You need to protect the transplanted plus the original hairs in the balding zone from DHT after the transplant, and so it is important to be taking finasteride/dutasteride.

 

[Cucumba]

So I went to a well known dermatologist for a checkup and he diagnosed me with telegoen effluvium, though, I am going for a second opinion.
This is a recent picture of my back of the head

 

[Heinrich Harrer]

DUPA. Welcome in hell.

EDIT: I want to ban @alekgn and his nonexistent Androgenetic Alopecia, I can’t take it anymore. Someone, please.