Who Would Help Fund A Kerastem Therapy?

NorwoodGuardian

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good work bro. could you ask them, why they dont publish before/after pics. i don´t get that. the only thing i believe why someone is avoiding this, is because it doesn´t work.

Yes please ask this question.
No privacy problem if just showing the scalp. Clearly an excuse.
 

Mr White

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If Hellouser is doing it, you can count on me. I am more than willing to contribute.
 

Bad_Wolve

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If Hellouser is doing it, you can count on me. I am more than willing to contribute.

come on hellouser, please go for us. i think nobody except you could get enough funding from the community. i would prefer the clinic in switzerland.
 

lynney45

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come on hellouser, please go for us. i think nobody except you could get enough funding from the community. i would prefer the clinic in switzerland.

Guys it seems BelPrime are legit, i contacted Kerastem in the states and they have vouched for them. The BelPrime Clinic in Belgrade is now my preferred choice.

See reply from Kerastem below;

"Dear ****,


Thank you for your inquiry.


I can confirm that the clinic your refer to in your email is trained and fully competent in Kerastem procedures.


Kind Regards,


Eric Daniels, MD
Kerastem"
 

Bad_Wolve

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Guys it seems BelPrime are legit, i contacted Kerastem in the states and they have vouched for them. The BelPrime Clinic in Belgrade is now my preferred choice.

See reply from Kerastem below;

"Dear ****,


Thank you for your inquiry.


I can confirm that the clinic your refer to in your email is trained and fully competent in Kerastem procedures.


Kind Regards,


Eric Daniels, MD
Kerastem"



these are excellent news!!! i could go to belgrad by car. when we fund hellouser we would need 6000 bucks i think. we have to get the funding started now. who set the initiative for the hairloss congress?
 

lynney45

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Hey, just saw this now. This is very interesting. I live in Belgrade. Good work with confirming that the Belgrade clinic is licensed by Kerastem guys. Anything I can do to help? I can wait for hellouser at the airport since I have a car and he can sleep at my place. Or I can find very affordable accommodation for him. Also show him around town and then we can go to a strip joint, do some blow there all night, pay for sex, spend all the money for the treatment and wake up late for the treatment due to hangover. How's that sound?



Hey man, is there any chance you could swing by the clinic and check out the pics and report back here with what the results are like? They told me they would only show the pics in person, you may need to book an appointment with them.

but it would be a great help if you could do this before we start collecting funds so we know what the expected results are like in advance.
 

Bad_Wolve

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Sure thing, I am interested in this definitely, especially because it's in my city. Wanna see if this is legit or a hoax. I'll call them today, see if they are still working since it's Saturday afternoon.

Nobody is picking up the phone, they've must have closed it for today. Btw. I don't see the kerastem therapy offer on their website? What is it called?

http://belprimeclinic.com/en/for-him/facial-surgery/hair-restoration/

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yes, it is not on their homepage, but they are doing it. kerastem confirmed that they are legit. i will also do it in belgrad i think. maybe you could show me how to spend my extra money :p
 

lynney45

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Sure thing, I am interested in this definitely, especially because it's in my city. Wanna see if this is legit or a hoax. I'll call them today, see if they are still working since it's Saturday afternoon.

Nobody is picking up the phone, they've must have closed it for today. Btw. I don't see the kerastem therapy offer on their website? What is it called?

http://belprimeclinic.com/en/for-him/facial-surgery/hair-restoration/

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just refer to it as Kerastem when you are speaking with them on Monday, thats what i done they know what you are referring to. Thanks for checking out the pics man, thats a great help!
 

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Sure thing, I am interested in this definitely, especially because it's in my city. Wanna see if this is legit or a hoax. I'll call them today, see if they are still working since it's Saturday afternoon.

Nobody is picking up the phone, they've must have closed it for today. Btw. I don't see the kerastem therapy offer on their website? What is it called?

http://belprimeclinic.com/en/for-him/facial-surgery/hair-restoration/

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If you could stop by and see their pictures that would be wonderful.
 

Aleksandar

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Sure man, the warm weather is starting, sooo many hot girls in tight clothes and short skirts flocked the city today it's unfair to my little guy. At first I thought the heartache and shortness of breath was from all the hot bodies but then realized it's a bad case of 8% minoxidil side effect. So yeah if I survive this prelude to a small heart attack we are rocking. :)

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Yes, will do. And trust me, I've developed a good bull**** detector for these things so I'll know if they're f*cking with me. I don't trust anyone anymore, I've been ripped off by mesotherapists, dermatologists, doctors, almost fell for a bad hair transplant surgeon and almost started finasteride because I've trusted another hair transplant surgeon.

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Yes I will. Where are you from bro-brate?

Born and raised in Amsterdam but roots are in Montenegro
 

Blackber

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minoxidil has been doing a decent job at keeping my hairloss at bay but over the past 1.5 months my hairloss has gotten so much worse and minoxidil seems to be loosing its strength.

My body cannot tolerate finasteride and even if I could playing Russian roulette with my body isn't worth it. Like you guys have felt, the sudden uptick in hairloss has been demoralizing. I think I might give this a chance. I'm fortunate enough to be in the position where I have the money to spend on this and even if it doesn't work I feel like I won't have any regrets about trying SOMETHING. Kerastem seems safer to me than some of these experimental drugs that effect our hormones and/or we can only source from shady suppliers.

Even if Kerastem only holds my hairloss at bay temporarily and I had to have it performed once a year until something better came along I'd be ok with that.

What really bothers me about Kerastem I'm sure bothers everyone else:

1 - Where are all the pictures, all these clinics claim they perform this procedure on a regular basis. They cite patient confidentiality but you always see pictures of hair transplant's - this doesn't make sense to me.

2 - Even if they couldn't show pictures there is no one online talking about having the procedure done. Again, these clinics claim they do this procedure on a regular basis but you never hear about anyone having it done successfully or not.

3 - If Kerastem is being performed in European countries is there any clinical trial data for these countries or in Europe in general? Even seeing something like that would make me feel a bit more at ease.

Again as much as the above points bother me I'm getting to the point where I feel it would be foolish not to TRY something and live with regret that I didn't later on.

Thoughts?

P.S. Vincent777 is there anyway you can do some research since you're local and see if this is a reputable clinic in general? Also, maybe you can comment on any clinical trials they may have had to go through/if any, since you live there. Let me/us know, thanks in advance.

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After looking on Kerastem's website (www.kerastem.com) They claim to be "CE" approved in Japan, Madrid and Switzerland (see attached picture). When I looked on wikipedia what CE approval really means they stated that it's something the manufacturer/service provider claim themselves - therefore I don't think that claim holds too much water.

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Blackber

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It's a scam. One in a long line of hair growth scams.

Does anyone think that, if a functional, effective treatment for hair growth had been discovered, you wouldn't hear about it on the front page of every newspaper on the globe? That whoever discovered it wouldn't be shouting about it from the rafters, providing copious amounts of data and photos to prove their discovery? IT'S A SCAM.

I'm not naive, and I can't say I don't agree with you because I do lol.

If anyone had a breakthrough they'd be shouting from mountain tops. I'm not looking for a cure or significant regrowth. If I could maintain I'd be able, if I get a LITTLE regrowth id be ecstatic. I'm a diffuse thinner that still has pretty good coverage so if I can just maintain until hopefully Replicel then I'd be set. That's all I'm looking for.

But as I said above I agree with you even if it only maintained you'd be hearing a lot more about it.....

Doesn't mean I won't consider trying it though.
 

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It's a scam. One in a long line of hair growth scams.

Does anyone think that, if a functional, effective treatment for hair growth had been discovered, you wouldn't hear about it on the front page of every newspaper on the globe? That whoever discovered it wouldn't be shouting about it from the rafters, providing copious amounts of data and photos to prove their discovery? IT'S A SCAM.

damn you and your logic :p
 

newplayer

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@ vincent777

when will you go to Belgrade clinic and take a look at photos?

I also somewhat agree with blackber and occulus - why are they keeping quiet about it? If they are doing it for 2 years why none of their happy patients came to hair loss forums and bragged about results? It feels so strange and fishy, we have to get to the bottom of this.

If photos look good, the next step is to send someone there to have the procedure, 4.5k euro is not such a large sum, if 100 of us contributed here, we can collect it in no time.
 

newplayer

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I'm going to call them on Monday and book an appointment to see those photos of theirs first hand. Keep you guys updated. Hope it's better than PRP. But yeah, if they don't show the photos it's suspicious as hell. Makes no sense. I don't buy into their story that they protect their clients privacy? Is that what they said? What a load of baloney. They could blur out their face like all the hair transplant do and they would've done that if they had any results. Who in their right mind would travel to another country, or another continent to a clinic that doesn't even show the results of their photos? And this isn't some light procedure from what I understand. They suck the fat from somewhere and then inject it into your scalp? Do you end up with liposuction scars??

They've told me a similar thing for mesotherapy, it works, all the women that worked there started showing me their hair and said the new hair grew from mesotherapy and said studies are being conducted. 500 euros later, the only thing I grew was my anger for being robbed when I started researching stuff for myself.


I feel your pain, we've been there.
If I understood they said scars are "virtually non visible" and few mm long.

I agree with you, really makes no sense - that's why I'm looking forward for you to check out their photos, and I really hope they are in high res and sharp,
like the pilox ones we've seen.

Fingers crossed, keep us updated!
Thank you
 
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