can anyone provide an explanation or have any logical reasoning why scientists have such a hard time finding a cure for this cocksucking piece of sh*t disease?...is it funding?...non-priority?? A billion dollar/year industry yet no significant treatment? Do any of you have any hope for a potential cure?
Why do scientists have such a difficult time finding a cure?
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bigentries
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The same reason why we still don't have a cure for cancer or Alzheimer, or why the genome hasn't brought anything interesting in a decade
Debate all you want about the reasons, but it is not a global conspiracy against baldies
40 years ago, the only choice was a wig and shaving it all was not an option.
Debate all you want about the reasons, but it is not a global conspiracy against baldies
40 years ago, the only choice was a wig and shaving it all was not an option.
Fair enough. Alzheimers and cancer can be/are degenerative diseases, where male pattern baldness is not.... Therefore, is it a lack of interest? in my opinion, it appears as if now there seems to be more 'going on' then before with regards to finding better treatment. As you said, several years ago the only option was rockin a wig
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Because the drug companies would loose billions that they make off the ongoing cost of hair loss drugs
keepinthehair
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Why on earth would any pharmaceutical company want to "cure" any disease. If male pattern baldness is a billion dollar/year industry. Think of the lost revenue in just 10 years time. Hell the poor hair transplant MD would also be out of business and would have to practice family medicine again treating peple for colds etc.
Sorry, dont expect a cure for any potential money making diseases. I worked in Fortune 100 Pharmaceutical Manufacturing companies for 8 years. I know for a fact, statistics/risk analysis/profit margins are evaluated for all current diseases before even considering a new drug in the pipline. Even if a small company did find a "cure" I guarantee Merck would buy them out and close them down before you and I knew about it. Sort of like the oil giants preventing alternative fuel to gasoline, just not gonna happen for a long long time.
Sorry, dont expect a cure for any potential money making diseases. I worked in Fortune 100 Pharmaceutical Manufacturing companies for 8 years. I know for a fact, statistics/risk analysis/profit margins are evaluated for all current diseases before even considering a new drug in the pipline. Even if a small company did find a "cure" I guarantee Merck would buy them out and close them down before you and I knew about it. Sort of like the oil giants preventing alternative fuel to gasoline, just not gonna happen for a long long time.
Now that you can obtain 30x 5mg generic finasteride for 9$, i.e a years worth for about 30$.. i am not seeing a big profit coming from these companies
also a lot of these very rich and powerful people are bald or balding men.. and i guarantee you their baldness bothers them just as much as it bothers you (donald trump anyone?)
the only people in the buisness making money would be hair transplant doctors, and maybe the company making Avodart (dutasteride) since i think that isn't available in a generic version
also a lot of these very rich and powerful people are bald or balding men.. and i guarantee you their baldness bothers them just as much as it bothers you (donald trump anyone?)
the only people in the buisness making money would be hair transplant doctors, and maybe the company making Avodart (dutasteride) since i think that isn't available in a generic version
makes me sick...we need some bald *** players to step up and get some independent funding to obtain some long lasting results. finasteride/minoxidil only works very successfully in a small minority, where most will see some moderate to minimal results using these drugs
this sh*t must bother you, just as much as it bothers me to be on this website. I mean, I'm sitting here with 3-5 ML of kirkland 5% minoxidil on my scalp. Wouldn't it be nice to have a pill or injection that takes care of this BS once and for all?...For christ sakes, magic johnson's been HIV positive for years now and the guy's fatter than ever. Looks healthier than most people i know...not trying to play the conspiracy theory card, but just sayin...i'm sure there's some decent treatment out there for everything, if you got the $$$
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i have a family member with a limb amputated, and others with cancer.
to them, me complaining about hairloss is just pathetic.
scientists can't find a cure, because male pattern baldness is not a disease. Its a perfectly natural situation.
And yes certain types of hairloss are related to health but not male pattern baldness. At best its accelerated by lifestyle, but not caused by it.
furthermore, theres a pill to stop it progressing, granted its not ideal cos of side effects but still, its something, and they can also transplant hairs almost perfectly undetectible.
i hope for something better too, but u have to face facts, this might be it for a while.
i have a family member with a limb amputated, and others with cancer.
to them, me complaining about hairloss is just pathetic.
scientists can't find a cure, because male pattern baldness is not a disease. Its a perfectly natural situation.
And yes certain types of hairloss are related to health but not male pattern baldness. At best its accelerated by lifestyle, but not caused by it.
furthermore, theres a pill to stop it progressing, granted its not ideal cos of side effects but still, its something, and they can also transplant hairs almost perfectly undetectible.
i hope for something better too, but u have to face facts, this might be it for a while.
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anxious1 said:
This is not true, male pattern baldness IS a disease since it is a pathological process occurring at the level of the hair follicle. It is NOT natural.
That is as ridiculous as saying that the common cold is not an illness just because it has no serious health consequences.
Furthermore, male pattern baldness is associated with increased risk of other diseases such as cardiovascular disease.
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One thing I find hard to believe is a decent treatment hasn't been found. All it seems to require is a topical that:
- can suppress androgens in the scalp
- can not get systematically absorbed so as to affect our sexual health
- is easy to apply (no preparation etc) straight from the bottle
- dries quickly and not greasy
- costs about equivalent to a month of Rogaine
..looks easy! I hope its soon, they have the right idea with RU55841, it just needs tweaking. That would at least halt male pattern baldness for the current generation.
As for a cure well male pattern baldness is so tied in with our genetics and who we are I cant imagine how it would even work...you may as well be asking for a cure to your blue eyes or curly hair.
- can suppress androgens in the scalp
- can not get systematically absorbed so as to affect our sexual health
- is easy to apply (no preparation etc) straight from the bottle
- dries quickly and not greasy
- costs about equivalent to a month of Rogaine
..looks easy! I hope its soon, they have the right idea with RU55841, it just needs tweaking. That would at least halt male pattern baldness for the current generation.
As for a cure well male pattern baldness is so tied in with our genetics and who we are I cant imagine how it would even work...you may as well be asking for a cure to your blue eyes or curly hair.
Really?
Look man, I'm all for pushing for a treatment for a cosmetically undesirable genetic trait-which is androgenetic-alopecia; but, stop comparing it to life threatening illnessess, that is beyond ingnorant! It makes you sound like a moron....[/quote]No doubt. I am by no means a very scientific person, and do not compare alopecia to a deadly disease, but it does seem unusual that it is such a mystery and difficult to treat.
Reading through posts on this board, there are some very bright individuals here (yourself included), who I was hoping could provide some intelligent theories on why this is a difficult disease/condition, whatever, to treat?
by the way, thanks for increasing the font and color of my quote, lol
Look man, I'm all for pushing for a treatment for a cosmetically undesirable genetic trait-which is androgenetic-alopecia; but, stop comparing it to life threatening illnessess, that is beyond ingnorant! It makes you sound like a moron....[/quote]No doubt. I am by no means a very scientific person, and do not compare alopecia to a deadly disease, but it does seem unusual that it is such a mystery and difficult to treat.
Reading through posts on this board, there are some very bright individuals here (yourself included), who I was hoping could provide some intelligent theories on why this is a difficult disease/condition, whatever, to treat?
by the way, thanks for increasing the font and color of my quote, lol
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male pattern baldness has its place in the realm of things otherwise women would have genetically selected it out historically. The fact that so many men do go bald makes its own statement supporting the theory that generations ago, a woman seeked a relationship with a mature MAN who could provide and protect. Who would you want protecting you if you were a female, Jason Stratham or Guilligan Island guy.
True times have changed and working women now have more choices, usually preferring a man with everything possible, ie looks, money, humor, talents etc. But a smart woman will still choose the man that makes her feel good about herself, bald or not. That is not a disease it is called natural selection. Do your best with your hair, but learn to complement women, all women. They will come back for more every time and you will then get past your disease, insecurity.
True times have changed and working women now have more choices, usually preferring a man with everything possible, ie looks, money, humor, talents etc. But a smart woman will still choose the man that makes her feel good about herself, bald or not. That is not a disease it is called natural selection. Do your best with your hair, but learn to complement women, all women. They will come back for more every time and you will then get past your disease, insecurity.
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"Maybe the bald guys were more suited for fighting becuase they didn't have hair to grab on to, and they could have yanked the norwood 1's around by their hair in a fight. "
Ever notice that the cage fighting guys are mostly all balding. I would put some spray Pam on my head too.
Ever notice that the cage fighting guys are mostly all balding. I would put some spray Pam on my head too.
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Women barely had a choice in the past about who they married.keepinthehair said:
The concept of "romantic" marriage is a recent creation
If baldness was a trait that passed trough natural selection, it wasn't the women who allowed it
More likely just a vestigial trait from an ancient primate ancestor
I hate this conversation and argument
Ideal aesthetics is largely cultural biased, i.e. why some ancient cultures preferred fatter women and we currently prefer thin/slightly above thin women. By and large it's entirely determined by societal trends. baldness is not inherently attractive or unattractive, however in todays world it is seen by the vast, vast majority of people as an unattractive trait.
Baldness does not even have this evolutionary or psuedo-evolutionary basis like "hip/wast ratio" or "breast size" which supposedly correspond with fertility. there is absolutely zero connection between baldness and fertility. Even if you make the argument bald = older = mature, it is completely irrelevant because people do not thing in evolutionary terms, they think of societal terms.
and that alone is enough to make it a significant issue worthy of effort towards treatment and a cure
Ideal aesthetics is largely cultural biased, i.e. why some ancient cultures preferred fatter women and we currently prefer thin/slightly above thin women. By and large it's entirely determined by societal trends. baldness is not inherently attractive or unattractive, however in todays world it is seen by the vast, vast majority of people as an unattractive trait.
Baldness does not even have this evolutionary or psuedo-evolutionary basis like "hip/wast ratio" or "breast size" which supposedly correspond with fertility. there is absolutely zero connection between baldness and fertility. Even if you make the argument bald = older = mature, it is completely irrelevant because people do not thing in evolutionary terms, they think of societal terms.
and that alone is enough to make it a significant issue worthy of effort towards treatment and a cure