Why do some people bald extremely fast?

[Hammer87]

The protein/body building thing being attributed to accelerated balding is just a result of coincidence.....

Its like wearing hats. That myth got started because men used to join the military at 18 and would wear hats all the time, and soon after started balding. They attributed it to the hat when in reality they would have started balding anyway. Same thing with working out and high protein diets - a lot of men who start working out do so in their late teens/early 20s which is also the same time that male pattern baldness usually first shows up. Correlation does not imply causation!

That's what I'd have though. Although some may argue it increases testorone etc. etc.

Saying that, I do have a friend who by 20 had lost all the hair at the front of his head. He worked out 2 hours a day. His brother, 2 years older than him still has a full head of hair. Obviously one person means nothing though...

 

[s.a.f]

The protein/body building thing being attributed to accelerated balding is just a result of coincidence.....

Its like wearing hats. That myth got started because men used to join the military at 18 and would wear hats all the time, and soon after started balding. They attributed it to the hat when in reality they would have started balding anyway. Same thing with working out and high protein diets - a lot of men who start working out do so in their late teens/early 20s which is also the same time that male pattern baldness usually first shows up. Correlation does not imply causation!

Absolutley spot on, same with the drinking theory that some people have.

 

[mj9]

I can understand where you guys are coming from...... But, the diet theory has not been disproven, infact there is evidence showing it does have an affect on hair loss.

People that ignore the diet theory will only have themselves to blame for the lack of success via finasteride etc

 

[s.a.f]

OK whats the diet theory .....? :roll:

 

[Avery]

Hehe, ok, please, prove it does have an affect. Actual proof, a study or experiment or something, not some thought exercise.

Personally, if hair loss can be combated or cured through dietary means, I'll be the first one to radically change my diet. Hell, show me actual, valid, scientific proof that a horse piss topical works and I'll do that too.

Until then.... no.

 

[mj9]

Look at the following links... I am sure you guys are intelligent enough to work out what I'm getting at or see my logic...... There were also some links someone had posted but I can't find them.... Do a google search or something....

Also, I never claimed that diet could reverse or stop hair loss but I am sure it can slow it down so instead of balding at 20, you might start balding at 30 or 40....

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If you still don't see my logic then you can suck my dick - plenty of protein there! lol Only joking

Anyway, it's just a theory and I might be wrong but it's not disproven. From my personal experience and the research I have done, I think it plays a big part in the reason men are starting to bald a lot earlier than they should.

 

[slowburn]

Look at the following links... I am sure you guys are intelligent enough to work out what I'm getting at or see my logic...... There were also some links someone had posted but I can't find them.... Do a google search or something....

Also, I never claimed that diet could reverse or stop hair loss but I am sure it can slow it down so instead of balding at 20, you might start balding at 30 or 40....

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If you still don't see my logic then you can suck my dick - plenty of protein there! lol Only joking

Anyway, it's just a theory and I might be wrong but it's not disproven. From my personal experience and the research I have done, I think it plays a big part in the reason men are starting to bald a lot earlier than they should.

Classy....! :jackit:

 

[optimus prime]

OK whats the diet theory .....? :roll:

It is proven that a bad diet ages you. Eating fresh fruit and vegetables with plenty of antioxidants and vitamins can slow the aging process and can help the immune system.

male pattern baldness potently speeds up with age. Maybe because as you get old the follicle becomes more sensitive, not sure why, but you can't really argue that male pattern baldness increase with age.

Therefore, eating a healthy diet (along with other things) can slow the aging process, which can possibly slow male pattern baldness. Therefore in my opinion diet should be considered, especially if you are making the effort to take meds.

 

[s.a.f]

Yes because all those professional bald sportsmen have terrible diets.
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"Hey baldies you should eat healthily like me!"

Ps baldness is nothing to do with ageing are you telling me a 30 yr old bald guy is infact physicly older than a 65 yr old nw1?
Do all bald guys have wrinkles and poor health?

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[optimus prime]

Yes because all those professional bald sportsmen have terrible diets.
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"Hey baldies you should eat healthily like me!"

and that proves what? That he isn't affected by male pattern baldness so his diet makes no difference.

If however you are affected by male pattern baldness, then I think you should consider a healthy diet to try delay or slow down the affects.

 

[s.a.f]

Wow that 2nd guy must have a terrible diet, strange that he's not in bad shape though :whistle:

 

[optimus prime]

Shape has nothing to do with diet. I ate an awful diet and I am slim. While at University I ate McDonalds once a week at least. I drank soda on a regular basis. I never ate vegetables or fruit. My weight stayed more or less the same. I looked very healthy actually.

Showing a youngish man who looks regular proves nothing about his diet.

Also I never said it was the case for everyone. I said I believed it could make a difference. I also said, if you are making the effort to take medication, then I think you should make the effort to eat healthy as I believe that it COULD slow the aging process (Which hopefully could slow the male pattern baldness as people with male pattern baldness usually get it more aggressive as they get older).

 

[s.a.f]

I've had a good diet since I got into fitness when I was 18, I still went bald faster than anybody else. I cant see that even with a bad diet it could have been worse, look at prince William, I doubt he lives off junk food with personal chefs and access to all the top resaturants.

I think its preditermind by your genes, most people have a average diet not strictly clean but neither terrible. I cant see it making much difference whether you eat only 2/3 portions of fruit veg a day or 5/6 or wether you have the odd burger and fries or never touch them. There is nothing stronger than your own genetics.

 

[Hammer87]

I've had a good diet since I got into fitness when I was 18, I still went bald faster than anybody else. I cant see that even with a bad diet it could have been worse, look at prince William, I doubt he lives off junk food with personal chefs and access to all the top resaturants.

Just out of interest, would you consider Prince William to be losing his hair exceptionally fast? I ask as he's been visibly balding for years (Obviously balding before that, and it just wasn't visible) and still has hair on his hair.

Edit, actually his crown does look pretty bad. - 'Problem' about being a Royal is, it's not really good public image to have a skin head.

 

[Norsk]

No, but on the other hand there is a precedent for royals wearing wigs.

 

[Petchsky]

I know Price Charles has used Dermatch for years, there was an article about it once from one of his previously close aides as the royals call them, everyone else would say servants.

 

[slowburn]

Yes because all those professional bald sportsmen have terrible diets.
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"Hey baldies you should eat healthily like me!"

Ps baldness is nothing to do with ageing are you telling me a 30 yr old bald guy is infact physicly older than a 65 yr old nw1?
Do all bald guys have wrinkles and poor health?

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Making fun of fat people again. :jackit: :thumbdown2:

Get some class.

 

[Thickandthin]

Despite what I said earlier about protein/bodybuilding and MBP being coincidence - sometimes I wonder if perhaps its not the diet that causes, but the increase in body mass?

I've got a NW2/2.5 at 21, but my brother probably didn't get there until 25/26. Interestingly, we probably weigh the same amount for the first time in our lives (185ish). He didn't reach this weight until his mid twenties, whereas I hit it around 20 (around the same time my hairline started receding.) My dad's hairline didn't start going until he was probably in his early 30s (although his crown had started going before that) - again, probably around the time he reached a higher body mass since he was skinny in his teens and twenties.

I don't know if there's any scientific basis for it but sometimes I wonder if reaching a certain body weight, for some people, kick starts the balding process. Does putting on weight biologically age a person?

 

[Hammer87]

Jude Law is someone who doesn't seem to have lost his hair too quickly. He had some recession at 22 (Though it looked more like a mature hairline). At 25/26 10 years ago you could see his temples were going.

Now he's 35 and about a Norwood 3? and his crown looks fine.

 

[mj9]

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