Why not more Dutasteride users?

dbaser

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I've been on Proscar (1.25mg daily) for about seven years with good results in the hair-maintenance area, and am wondering if I'd see some actual regrowth if I tried something more powerful like Dutasteride.

What I'm wondering is: why do so few GourmetStyleWellness users use Dutasteride in favor of Propecia? Why not use the more powerful drug? Is it the side effects? The price? Lack of info?

Just curious why I see so many Propecia users but not more dutasteride....
 

Petchsky

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I noticed that about dutasteride....

From what i can tell posters here at gourmetstylewellness.com, me included are a little scared by dutasteride because of how powerful it is...90% block of DHT! That sh*t has got to be there for another reason than making your head shiny.

I have read of a guy similar to you who used propecia for a few years and maintained but then got good regrowth on dutasteride, but as you know, we are all different in terms of results.

7 years on finasteride...always glad to hear from you old timers!!!!
 

norwood_6

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thats alot of dht blockage, im not willing to sacrafice my strong libido,vigor,sex drive and great well being for a toxic suppressing pill


maybe :freaked2:
 

itsjustaphase

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success stories

Hi dbaser,

great to see someone with good results for such a long time on propecia. i was wondering if you wouldnt mind please post your story under success stories. it would mean alot to me and im sure many others to see someone whose been on for so long have good results. maybe you could detail what the first year was like i.e. when did the hairloss stop, regrowth of shedding hairs etc.

i know its abit of a hassle but guys like you are our best source of information because all this finasteride DHT stuff is so new and so much uncertainty.

thank you and best of luck with everything.
 

dbaser

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itsjustaphase:

I actually posted my whole experience here:

http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... ght=#99575

But alas, no replies :cry:


I don't know if it qualifies as a "success story" since I probably haven't grown any hair back in the last 7-8 yrs (then again, I didn't combine finasteride with minoxidil until this year), but I have managed to maintain my hair reasonably well and have experienced no recognizable side effects from the finasteride. The only thing diluting my results has been: 1 hair transplant, and some thinning due to Accutane.

In any case, if you have specific questions, let me know.
 

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dbaser said:
What I'm wondering is: why do so few GourmetStyleWellness users use Dutasteride in favor of Propecia? Why not use the more powerful drug? Is it the side effects? The price? Lack of info?

DHT has androgenic and anti-estrogenic effects throughout the body. Supressing 90% of it could have all sorts of side effects.
 

gonna_win

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dbaser said:
I've been on Proscar (1.25mg daily) for about seven years with good results in the hair-maintenance area, and am wondering if I'd see some actual regrowth if I tried something more powerful like Dutasteride.

What I'm wondering is: why do so few GourmetStyleWellness users use Dutasteride in favor of Propecia? Why not use the more powerful drug? Is it the side effects? The price? Lack of info?

Just curious why I see so many Propecia users but not more dutasteride....

It's not approved to treat hairloss by the FDA or any other health organisations that I know of. Although the FDA isn't exaclty the most credible of sources.
 

Axon

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1. Finasteride is perfectly effective for me.

2. Dutasteride is expensive, Finasteride is cheap.

3. At this point, the data suggests that Duta only grows 150 hairs to Fina's 100 at high-end efficency. Why bother?
 

oni

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Axon

1. Finasteride is not effective for everyone.

2. "Dutasteride" is not expensive, $1 a day.

3. I think 50% more regrowth is not a bad thing and could make the difference between having to use a topical like minoxidle and getting away with just popping a pill once a day.

:hairy:
 

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Axon said:
At this point, the data suggests that Duta only grows 150 hairs to Fina's 100 at high-end efficency. Why bother?
Because that's a 50% increase in hair counts, very significant. It's not like it's just 50 hairs over the entire head, it's 50% more hairs in the area affected. That said, I have dropped dutasteride due to what appears to be side effects and am back on finasteride.
 

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mvpsoft said:
Axon said:
At this point, the data suggests that Duta only grows 150 hairs to Fina's 100 at high-end efficency. Why bother?
Because that's a 50% increase in hair counts, very significant. It's not like it's just 50 hairs over the entire head, it's 50% more hairs in the area affected. That said, I have dropped dutasteride due to what appears to be side effects and am back on finasteride.

150 hairs to 100?

Please fellas. If you want to take it, take it. But you're not getting 15,000 hairs as opposed to 10,000. Won't happen.
 

Axon

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oni said:
Axon

1. Finasteride is not effective for everyone.

2. "Dutasteride" is not expensive, $1 a day.

3. I think 50% more regrowth is not a bad thing and could make the difference between having to use a topical like minoxidle and getting away with just popping a pill once a day.

:hairy:


1. Nor is Duta.

2. Perhaps for you. I cannot obtain it at that price, not that I intend on taking it. Please pst whereever you get it from so interested parties can avail themselves of the oppurtunity.

3. You're taking my numbers where you want them to be. Unfortunately, the studies showed that at the high-end of recovery, there was an increase in 120 hairs for a 2.5mg(!) daily Dutasteride dosage.

Yes, 50% is a significant increase if we're talking an ever-increasing scale. However, we are not. We're talking a cap at around 120 hairs....

Here's what I'm saying:

http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/newsletter/article96.htm

Superior? Absolutley. The difference between 120 additional hairs and 60 after 6 months? Minimal.

Sorry.
 

HoChiMinh

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Is this site where u guys buy finasteride?

Hi guys Im new to this whole thing and was planning to buy finasteride from this site...does anyone have any imput on if this site sells legit medicine? Any reply would help plenty, I got no time to waste ...thanks guys.... :freaked2:
 

Axon

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The finasteride from gourmetstylewellness.com is legitimate, yes. Did you expect another answer? :)
 

oni

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Axon, name me a person who has not got results from dutasteride apart from people that have quit from side effects!

Axon, you are a Moderator on GourmetStyleWellnesss and you don't know where to get generic Avodart from, for $1 a day. I think you should just try typing in a very common search engine the words "generic dutasteride" and look at the second page you might find a company that does it.

Axon, the test figures are for 24 weeks lol what does that prove considering how long dutasteride takes to get into your system and start to work.

Fina's 100 at high-end efficency.

What level of finasteride do you have to take to get what you have quoted, Axon!

Axon, I was not taking your numbers. I simply said that
3. I think 50% more regrowth is not a bad thing and could make the difference between having to use a topical like minoxidle and getting away with just popping a pill once a day.

I really think you are mixed up with what mvpsoft said
Because that's a 50% increase in hair counts, very significant. It's not like it's just 50 hairs over the entire head, it's 50% more hairs in the area affected. That said, I have dropped dutasteride due to what appears to be side effects and am back on finasteride.
 

Axon

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oni said:
Axon, name me a person who has not got results from dutasteride apart from people that have quit from side effects!

I cannot even name one person that is on the drug. Shows how effective it is, being that it's been out around 2 years now. If it were working, we'd have more positive stories on it.

Axon, you are a Moderator on GourmetStyleWellnesss and you don't know where to get generic Avodart from, for $1 a day. I think you should just try typing in a very common search engine the words "generic dutasteride" and look at the second page you might find a company that does it.

I am aware of how to use Google. I simply don't care and haven't look around in about a year. Why spend $1 a day on a drug that will be only moderately more effective (if it even is) than a drug that is approved for hair loss and costs me significantly less - some $40 a year. Plus, to make 2.5mg a day, you'd have to take 5 capsules of Dutasteride. So it's like $5 a day.

Think before you condescend.

Axon, the test figures are for 24 weeks lol what does that prove considering how long dutasteride takes to get into your system and start to work.

What does it prove at 6 months? Plenty. It proves that duta, at 2.5mg (say goodbye to penis) a day, gives you 120 more hairs on the average, or, what you shed in a day or so, as opposed to 80 hairs on Fina after 6 months. Tell me that doesn't prove.

What level of finasteride do you have to take to get what you have quoted, Axon!

5 mg, which is identical to 1 mg according to most studies. You can read the study as well as I can. I'd suggest that Glaxo used the 5mg dosage for this very reason, so that Finasteride would look significantly weaker than duta when compared in hard milligram dose numbers.

If you don't let the numbers decieve you, you'll note that the typical .5mg dosage of Duta grows 100 hairs, compared to Fina's 80. Suddenly not the golden child....

Axon, I was not taking your numbers. I simply said that I think 50% more regrowth is not a bad thing and could make the difference between having to use a topical like minoxidle and getting away with just popping a pill once a day.

I disagree. The numbers suffer from a soft cap, which is the problem. If it was exponetial, I would concour with your statement (in some ways, I already do.) However, when you're talking the difference between 80 hairs and 120 hairs, we're talking the difference between $7.50 and $5. Not exactly huge.

Now, on a never ending upward scale, that number of hairs would eventually become 120,000 to 80,000. But we are not given such a luxury. We have a soft cap. The numbers cap at 120.

I really think you are mixed up with what mvpsoft said Because that's a 50% increase in hair counts, very significant. It's not like it's just 50 hairs over the entire head, it's 50% more hairs in the area affected. That said, I have dropped dutasteride due to what appears to be side effects and am back on finasteride.

Well, of course it's over the affected area, as is any hair loss drug with legitimate science behind it. That particular study is spun to make Finasteride look like sh*t and Dutasteride look like a godsend. And you've fallen for it. When you add in 50 hairs (in the BEST case scenario) to both temples and the crown, it is unlikely to make a huge difference.

I'm glad you like the drug, and I appreciate your strong feelings. But the fact remains that, like Finasteride, its ability to recover hairs is minimal at best. [/quote]
 

dbaser

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What exactly are the long-term effects people are worried about? Wouldn't all side effects go away after a few months of going off the pill, like with finasteride?

Also for those worried: has anyone considered trying dutasteride for a year, then back to finasteride and so forth, just so the effect on your body is lessened? I'm considering trying it again for a year just to experiment with any regrowth I might get.
 
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