Young guys: doesnt this piss you off?

[Chris87]

Im 23, been athletic my whole life...been in shape my whole life..i eat pretty well..dont really drink..dont smoke...there isnt a strong history of hair loss in my family at all...and i've been slowly shedding and receding for about 1.5 years now.

Doesnt it piss you off when you see some guy outside of a burger king who is overweight, smoking a cigarette, eating a burger and in his 50s and he's got a full head of of hair with a perfect hairline. :thumbdown2:

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

I started in the middle of my 20th year but it hasn't been really fast..but wish I had started on finasteride earlier. I just turned 22 a couple of months ago.

I just got back from the gym and of the people I observed in there this late at night, I saw one tall 45 year old or so, he was very very thin in the back/top though his hairline was intact. Virtually no hair. The other was a really short guy (like 5'4 at most) who was pretty much bald, maybe 30 years old or so. Then a guy that was at least 40, very overweight, and looked like either he doesn't work out hard or is eating way too much still..very fat with quite a belly. PERFECT hair. Thick, squared off hairline.

It's really annoying. I mean, seriously. It's so unfair sometimes.

But whatever. We have to deal with what we're dealt.

 

[s.a.f]

I see this type of stuff all the time. There are guys out there who could be scoring some major hot chicks but they dont give a sh*t about their appearance. They have all the genetics but just let themselves go.
I guess different people have different priorities.

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

I see this type of stuff all the time. There are guys out there who could be scoring some major hot chicks but they dont give a sh*t about their appearance. They have all the genetics but just let themselves go.
I guess different people have different priorities.

something thats funny is they probably think the same way that a lot of people on here think

"Gosh, Im eternally fat, oh well, i guess ill never score hot chicks"

 

[Hoppi]

A lil, but it's part of being a guy isn't it? I mean I could have a sex change tomorrow ( O.O ) and my T/DHT would be so low it would probs stop. But, I choose to be a guy... and part of that is male pattern baldness lol

I just hope I can get it under control...

 

[GeminiX]

A lil, but it's part of being a guy isn't it? I mean I could have a sex change tomorrow ( O.O ) and my T/DHT would be so low it would probs stop. But, I choose to be a guy... and part of that is male pattern baldness lol

I just hope I can get it under control...

Well no, you don't choose your gender It's something we're born with.

I didn't wake up one day and think, "hey, I really fancy a frock and some nice lippy from now on".

/sigh

@OP, I know *exactly* what you mean.

I was born with a body which I used *loath* looking at and beng stuck inside; at one point it got so bad I wanted to take a Stanley knife (box cutter) to parts of my anotomy. Seeing other people with the "right" body who just take for granted how fortunate they are can be really frustrating if you have issues with your own appearence.

Even now, I can still get the occasional pang if I let my guard down

 

[Primo]

To be fair, I have never seen a man in his 50s with a "perfect" hairline unless it happens to be a fake-looking transplanted "Jamie Foxx" hairline, but anyway these are just the cards we've been dealt.

My brother who at 30 is 6 yrs my senior, has no male pattern baldness whatsoever despite a mainly poor diet, heavy drinking and heavy smoking. Worst case scenario he'll become a NW2 in his 40s, while I despite all my healthy-living and eating am already a steadily progressing NW3 at age 24! He probably has absolutely no idea how lucky he is or how envious I am!

 

[s.a.f]

The guy with the best hair where I work brings the same lunch in everyday- a 2litre bottle of cola and a 5pk of mars bars (caramel/chocolate bars). He also smokes like a chimney.
He's mid 30's and his hair is like beaver pelt. I'm pretty sure he'll have a thick NW1 for life.

 

[zephyr31]

The guy with the best hair where I work brings the same lunch in everyday- a 2litre bottle of cola and a 5pk of mars bars (caramel/chocolate bars). He also smokes like a chimney.
He's mid 30's and his hair is like beaver pelt. I'm pretty sure he'll have a thick NW1 for life.

yeah but he will only have 5 years more to live with that diet wtf.... really 5 mars bars and 2l cola??? thats terrible.

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

The guy with the best hair where I work brings the same lunch in everyday- a 2litre bottle of cola and a 5pk of mars bars (caramel/chocolate bars). He also smokes like a chimney.
He's mid 30's and his hair is like beaver pelt. I'm pretty sure he'll have a thick NW1 for life.

probably overweight and has no chance with women.

unfair, as we'd be better off with their hair, but whatever.

 

[s.a.f]

probably overweight and has no chance with women.

unfair, as we'd be better off with their hair, but whatever.

Actually he's not really any more overweight than the average guy, but what really puts the women off is the fact that he does'nt seem to wash and turns up everyday in the same dirty old clothes.

My point is though imagine if he sorted himself out, got some new clothes and went to the gym and ate healthy. The oppurtunity is right there but he's just one of those guys too lazy to bother (he's also 6'5" btw).
Whilst this forum is full of guys obbsessing about every aspect of their looks but will never be satisfied because of their hair or their height and cant fix the problem however much they try because their problem is genetic rather than lifestyle.

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

No woman is going to choose the fat greasy slob that doesn't wash his clothes over the fit guy with thinning hair. I'd rather put up with the self consciousness of losing hair than turn into a fat loser with perfect hair.

I work out a lot and knowing the alternative of being a "fat aging bald guy" is not appealing to me in the slightest.

 

[Hoppi]

Come on guys just because some guys with poor lifestyles and/or diets have good hair or vice versa doesn't mean those factors are irrelevant. People like me never claimed that part of this isn't being genetically susceptible to male pattern baldness, just that even if you are, other factors in the opinion of myself and others may influence when it hits, it's severity, etc. We are not denying the genetics behind it (or at least most of us aren't ).

But yeah, we all have our different opinions! ^^

 

[mpbsux20]

I dont wish this on anybody but I wonder whether the guys who talk about diets,anti-masturbation theory and random stuffs as potential remedies for male pattern baldness would still be around saying the same things if they had some real aggressive hairloss.

For some guys it just stops at a NW2 in their mid-late twenties and they begin to think that eating junk,having promiscuous sex,smoking tobacco,drinking alcohol and other random stuff prior to this were responsible for this and when it stays that way for a while,they begin to believetheir "theories" actually work....Well you are wrong!!! If you were destined to be a Norwood>3.5 before you are even 30,then you wouldn't feel the same.

I have had a healthy diet, been doing regular workouts and literally I can count the number of times I have had junk my whole life but yet I went from a NW1.5-to a NW3 at the temples in just a couple of years.

Of all the experimental stuffs that I have done in the past,only Biotin and Saw Palmetto seemed to help my hair health at least to a minor extent.I was on SP for a year and a half but I still continued to receed slowly and this stopped only after I started finasteride.

The experimental thing you might have been doing wouldn't have been helpful to your hair in anyway as you would have been destined to stay at a nw2 for the remainder or until a later point in your life.

 

[GeminiX]

@mpbsux, I know what you mean.

There was a TV advert on earlier for a home "laser liposuction" machine (basically a laser pointer and a bit of wire).

The advert for this wonder of technology showed lots of people showing off six-packs and drum tight thights; "Non surgical", "Save £££££££" and "Lose lbs" were just some of the miracles that would occur just by waving a fancy flashlight at parts of your body. What a marvel I thought, this will do for me; I had better reach for my credit card right away.

Then right at the end of the advert, a brief message appeared on the screen "For optimum results, a regular excercise routine must be followed combined with the eating plan which we will provide; not all users will be able to achieve the same levels of muscle definition due to genetic differences"....

I really dislike snake-oil and it's deluded peddlers

 

[mpbsux20]

@Geminix: I agree....Once you have a fair bit of experience with such scam artists,you can spot them from a mile away.

 

[s.a.f]

I wonder whether the guys who talk about diets,anti-masturbation theory and random stuffs as potential remedies for male pattern baldness would still be around saying the same things if they had some real aggressive hairloss.

For some guys it just stops at a NW2 in their mid-late twenties and they begin to think that eating junk,having promiscuous sex,smoking tobacco,drinking alcohol and other random stuff prior to this were responsible for this and when it stays that way for a while,they begin to believetheir "theories" actually work....Well you are wrong!!! If you were destined to be a Norwood>3.5 before you are even 30,then you wouldn't feel the same.

Totally agree with this.
There was nothing unhealthy about my lifestyle and yet I got the exact same hairloss as my father and grandfathers.
Theres noway anyone can convince me that hairloss is anything other than genetic.

Your hairs are either DHT resistant or they are not and this is there from birth.

 

[Hoppi]

The difference here is that while I constantly specify that my views are only my opinion (and that of others) you guys state it like it's fact, as if you have a complete knowledge and understanding of every possible pathway, cellular response, genetic and epigenetic possibility, variation and change, AR response, etc. The body is astoundingly complex. Now, I do believe that in your 2 cases (mpbsux and s.a.f) it was probably just very sensitive follicles or active ARs. But that doesn't mean that's true for everyone. You could never base a scientific study on only 2 individuals and the same applies here.

I stopped one guys male pattern baldness by telling him to stop drinking lots of green tea, and lo and behold it stopped. The body is complex but not beyond understanding

 

[GeminiX]

I stopped one guys male pattern baldness by telling him to stop drinking lots of green tea, and lo and behold it stopped. The body is complex but not beyond understanding

Truly, you are the messiah of hair loss...

So in just one post you start by flaming us doubters by stating you're just saying it's your opinion, then quick as a flash point out the miracle cure that *you* performed.

Do you have any science to back this up, and to prove your claims are entirely your doing and not something else altogether, or do we just take your words as gospel from this forum?

 

[mpbsux20]

I stopped one guys male pattern baldness by telling him to stop drinking lots of green tea, and lo and behold it stopped. The body is complex but not beyond understanding

:salut: Und vat do you suggest in my case herr doktor ?