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bridgeburn

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I have micronized progesterone and when I take it orally I don't feel any effect but when I take it sublingually I feel drowsy/relaxed and it feels really nice, because of this I want to take it every day but maybe it will be bad for hair? Taste like plastic mint chocolate.
ok, I'm gunna try it sublingually tonight and see if It feels different.
 

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from dutasteride, hair begins to fall out very strongly if you do not take breaks for 1-2 days. but this does not mean that everything is bad. they can fall out because new ones grow. look very carefully do you have a little new hair? they are hard to see but possible. if there is, everything is in order.
what is the dose of dutasteride?

0.5mg everyday dutasteride for 3 months.

Small hair all over temples, but still seems to be receding. Sorry for the bad photo, you can't see the small hairs but they're there. Just nothing getting bigger

Also now taking 25mg of cypro since last week, will probably upgrade to 50 at some point.

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Also I have a question for anyone who might know, progynova (estradioal valerate) is micronized right, so it can be taken sublingually if I'm correct? But would the efficiency be higher if I took it orally like it was intended?
 

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Do people here think it's a bad idea to use estradiol to change your appereance? with the hair benefits just an added extra? Im very unhappy with my appearance i don't know if slightly more feminine attributes would make me look better.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with this question. But the only changes you would see outside of hair growth is a bit more body fat in feminine places and breast growth, not much else tends to happen appearance-wise, unfortunately.
 

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I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with this question. But the only changes you would see outside of hair growth is a bit more body fat in feminine places and breast growth, not much else tends to happen appearance-wise, unfortunately.

Yeah nevermind it was a silly question lol Thanks for your reply though.
 

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I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with this question. But the only changes you would see outside of hair growth is a bit more body fat in feminine places and breast growth, not much else tends to happen appearance-wise, unfortunately.
Also kind of depends on age. Younger you are the more likely you'll experience additional feminizing effects, since bones might not be fully fused yet (typically happens in early to mid 20's). Not to mention, igf-1 levels are also significantly higher when you are younger.
 

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Also kind of depends on age. Younger you are the more likely you'll experience additional feminizing effects, since bones might not be fully fused yet (typically happens in early to mid 20's). Not to mention, igf-1 levels are also significantly higher when you are younger.

Sorry you're right I should have mentioned that, I kind of just assume most people here are older. :D

The hips thing could be true, but from what I've seen its never really guaranteed. So I suppose ymmv.
 

bridgeburn

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Also I have a question for anyone who might know, progynova (estradioal valerate) is micronized right, so it can be taken sublingually if I'm correct? But would the efficiency be higher if I took it orally like it was intended?
you can take it sublingually and I believe it would be better than taking it orally. Taking it orally works for some but in others it reportedly screws up E1/E2 ratio and it also will reduce the amount IGF-1 secreted by the liver as its processed (which could, in theory, hinder breast growth)
However, the stregnth of Valerate taken sublingually is a bit less than the same amount of Hemihydrate taken sublingually.

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acne, if you have it, will also clear up. and your chest hair will fall out

I don't have acne or much chest hair so that's not an issue for me, would you say since starting your regimen that your attractiveness has increased since starting? I don't mean just your hair results but overall?

Sorry just looked at the first page and checked your pics, i definitely think your appearance has improved overall. Your skin and hair look great.
 
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keepcoolmybabies

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I don't have acne or much chest hair so that's not an issue for me, would you say since starting your regimen that your attractiveness has increased since starting? I don't mean just your hair results but overall?

Sorry just looked at the first page and checked your pics, i definitely think your appearance has improved overall. Your skin and hair look great.
Bridge got hot. E worked wonders for him.
 

bridgeburn

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I don't have acne or much chest hair so that's not an issue for me, would you say since starting your regimen that your attractiveness has increased since starting? I don't mean just your hair results but overall?
I look and feel healthier, have clear skin, no longer offend with body odor, no longer have an pissy embittered expression consistently on my face

I would say I'm more attractive in terms of outside persona, or at least more approachable.
However, I don't know if the same would apply If I am seen with my shirt off, or even in tight clothes.. maybe I would only appeal to bisexuals, but I still doubt it
 

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keepcoolmybabies

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Sorry you're right I should have mentioned that, I kind of just assume most people here are older. :D

The hips thing could be true, but from what I've seen its never really guaranteed. So I suppose ymmv.
I think there might even be a couple members here younger than 20, so they definitely should be aware that they may experience a lot of feminizing effects.
 

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https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/intera...-a-superior-antiandrogen-for-hairloss.124401/

you guys gotta check out my new thread!!! did a bunch of research and really pulled up some interesting studies with lots of info!!!! ;):D
Some good info for sure. In particular this excerpt you mentioned: "Whereas flutamide caused a dramatic (80%) decrease in total acne, seborrhea, and hair loss score after only 3 months of therapy, spironolactone caused only a 50% reduction in acne and seborrhea, with no significant effect on the hair loss score."

Flutamide has long been known to have a much higher success ratio with hair growth than other AA's. It's just toxic as hell for your liver. But bica really does seem promising. I'm probably gonna switch to it soon. Already cut my dose of spironolactone down significantly in the interim. Just hope I can convince my endo to prescribe bica instead.
 

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Some good info for sure. In particular this excerpt you mentioned: "Whereas flutamide caused a dramatic (80%) decrease in total acne, seborrhea, and hair loss score after only 3 months of therapy, spironolactone caused only a 50% reduction in acne and seborrhea, with no significant effect on the hair loss score."

Flutamide has long been known to have a much higher success ratio with hair growth than other AA's. It's just toxic as hell for your liver. But bica really does seem promising. I'm probably gonna switch to it soon. Already cut my dose of spironolactone down significantly in the interim. Just hope I can convince my endo to prescribe bica instead.
thats why we use bica instead, bica and flutamide have the same exact mechanism of action but bica has a different molecular structure which prevents liver toxicity.

bica 50mg = flutamide 750mg btw

wish u the best! ;) hair for everyone
 
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