Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Androgenic Alpaca]

Add 5mg oral min

I would not suggest starting with 5mg oral minoxidil. Minoxidil is a medication for reducing blood pressure, hair growth is just a side effect. 5 mg could cause your blood pressure to fall to dangerous levels. Consider also that any topical min that you use will have a (very small) amount of systematic absorption as well. People on this forum take absolutely idiotic amounts of minoxidil and it is downright dangerous

I think it is much safer to take 1.25mg oral minoxidil (one quarter of a pill) every day or even every other day. If this is well tolerated, perhaps you can try moving to a higher dose, but personally I do not see myself ever going above 1.25mg everyday. When I tried 2.5mg per day, I experienced poor peripheral circulation.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

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Oh, I just noticed I got temple/hairline miniaturization/recesion as well. I dont know what to do :/

male pattern baldness started when I started puberty. And now I am only 17 1/2 years old...

I just started finally finasteride yesterday after 4months of convincing doctors giving me a prescription. But I feel like finasteride won't do much.

Btw. Hair loss is not an excuse to transition, even for a cis-male, like me.

I am... _devastated_ ...

Feeling bad today, might kill myself later lol

No you won't kill yourself. You can contact me if you want someone to talk you down.

This is interesting though. What do you mean by this statement:

"Btw. Hair loss is not an excuse to transition, even for a cis-male, like me."

 

[Pls_NW-1]

No you won't kill yourself. You can contact me if you want someone to talk you down.

This is interesting though. What do you mean by this statement:

"Btw. Hair loss is not an excuse to transition, even for a cis-male, like me."

Hey! Its just... kinda depressing to start experiencing male pattern baldness with just 13/14.

What I meant with that is just that sometimes people transition just for hair, and thats just crazy, especially for a straight/cis-male. Sure, for a transgender, the situation is just a win-win, but to transition just for hsir does not sound quite morally, in my eyes.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Hey! Its just... kinda depressing to start experiencing male pattern baldness with just 13/14.

What I meant with that is just that sometimes people transition just for hair, and thats just crazy, especially for a straight/cis-male. Sure, for a transgender, the situation is just a win-win, but to transition just for hsir does not sound quite morally, in my eyes

I struggled and continue to struggle with this but it is a little more complex than you might think. The health benefits of high dose estradiol are remarkable and it's very much like getting a brand new body again and having what is referred to as "2nd Puberty".

In the past doing this just for hair would have been seen as frivolous certainly but the non-binary folks upset the apple cart. Many of them use Serms and they specifically try to create what I lovingly call a chimera. This is basically adopting one important feature and seeking HRT for that. Many of them want to continue to be able to top; they just want breasts on top. Sounds pretty frivolous to me, sigh, but I still tell them the little that I know about Serms but to me, female by definition cannot top so it is strange. What about doing HRT just for the health benefits? Or just to reduce the compulsive male urge to enjoy ahem himself.

But finally, as I am wordy, what I call hair dysphoria is just as dangerous as body dysphoria. Some boys do consider suicide when they bald early. So don't feel bad or greedy or frivolous.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Ein uses now finasteride (1mg) + bica (50mg) + spironolactone (100mg) everyday + 1000mg Metformin.

He added spironolactone again because of the reason I mentioned earlier. To lower the T-spike, so you dont need more than 50mg. 50mg without spironolactone would be insufficient, in his opinion. But I am unsure of the long term use. Like, for how long can you keep that taking!?

90 days is the max recommended to MtF's. Some MtF's start off with just an AA and then add estrogen after 60 to 90 days and this is consistent with wpath. If that person is using that stack for the rest of their life, bone loss could occur. Essentially, zero MtF's use AA's long-term without estrogen. The doctors won't approve it.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

No sides, sore left nipple but this started with Dutasteride. Worst sides are honestly from Minoxidl at this point, eyes a little black etc but am using moisturiser and Aloe now.

I feel a little cloudy but I smoke a lot of weed so there are other variables lol! I had wild mood swings and got emotional before so THC is part of my regimen couldnt do it without it. I am a straight male and everything still works. When I took Finasteride at 18 sides were WAY WORSE than this.

I know this is a necropost sort of but it is necessary to mention that smoking marijuana is absolutely contraindicated in growing hair.

Stop with marijuana entirely or accept you will never fully regrow your hair.

Figure 4. THC inhibits hair shaft elongation and proliferation, whereas...

Download scientific diagram | THC inhibits hair shaft elongation and proliferation, whereas it stimulates apoptosis of cultured human HF. a) Hair shaft elongation curves (meanse, 18-24 HFs per group). *P 0.05 when compared to control (b) Coimmunolabeling of proliferating (Ki-67, red...

www.researchgate.net

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

I have a source on diane35, but I'm considering biclutamide, are there any sources that anyone could offer to me for finding it?

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I know this is a necropost sort of but it is necessary to mention that smoking marijuana is absolutely contraindicated in growing hair.

Stop with marijuana entirely or accept you will never fully regrow your hair.

Figure 4. THC inhibits hair shaft elongation and proliferation, whereas...

Download scientific diagram | THC inhibits hair shaft elongation and proliferation, whereas it stimulates apoptosis of cultured human HF. a) Hair shaft elongation curves (meanse, 18-24 HFs per group). *P 0.05 when compared to control (b) Coimmunolabeling of proliferating (Ki-67, red...

www.researchgate.net

Ha. I smoke and eat shitloads. And I am not stopping even for hair....<winks>

Do Marijuana Benefits Include Hair Growth?

Marijuana is known for causing munchies, but can it cause hair growth, too? Certain cannabis components may be the key to lengthening your locks.

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[Isneezedsohard]

Ha. I smoke and eat shitloads. And I am not stopping even for hair....<winks>

Do Marijuana Benefits Include Hair Growth?

Marijuana is known for causing munchies, but can it cause hair growth, too? Certain cannabis components may be the key to lengthening your locks.

marijuanapackaging.com

Private Site

this would be great new if were true.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

this would be great new if were true.

I don't believe it does much of anything pro or contra.

As you say, Goddess, I have smoked and eaten lots. Well, now I have another thing to prove besides not needing an AA. I seek full hair restoration as a medical marijuana patient with a prescription.

 

[Isneezedsohard]

I don't believe it does much of anything pro or contra.

As you say, Goddess, I have smoked and eaten lots. Well, now I have another thing to prove besides not needing an AA. I seek full hair restoration as a medical marijuana patient with a prescription.

if pot was a cure... id have a lot of hair

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

if pot was a cure... id have a lot of hair

That sounds like Terrence McKenna, a legendary pot and shroom advocate and explorer.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Marijuana's hair inhibiting effects are multiple-fold.

1. it causes vasoconstriction (this is a lot worse for hair than people undestand)

2. THC supposedly increases testosterone levels (which I guess you can offset with an AA)

3. THC directly inhibits hair shaft elongation

But if you're seeing gains with all the stuff you're taking in spite of that, then do as you like.

 

[Isneezedsohard]

Marijuana's hair inhibiting effects are multiple-fold.

1. it causes vasoconstriction (this is a lot worse for hair than people undestand)

2. THC supposedly increases testosterone levels (which I guess you can offset with an AA)

3. THC directly inhibits hair shaft elongation

But if you're seeing gains with all the stuff you're taking in spite of that, then do as you like.

what about edibles? I'm guessing this would elimate the vasoconstriction

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

I don't know but whatever causes the uptick in serotonin is what causes the vasoconstriction. All I can say is last year I had a very inconsiderate neighbor who smoked aggressively and it was so bad they got thrown out for it. But during that time my hair suffered because the smell was permeating the entire floor of our building.

And that imo was what was causing terrible problems for me, I had horrible headaches during that time. Not to mention that my mother who aggressively smoked marijuana from 2003 until this year recently had a stroke. I am under the personal belief that it was the vasoconstricting aspects of constant marijuana smoking that caused this.

This idea that marijuana is "natural" and therefore good for you is kind of a crock, in my opinion. It prematurely ages people by drying them out, it prevents hair growth, it jacks your androgens and constricts your blood vessels, not for me.



Also, has anyone on this discussion thread used biclutamide extensively? What dose did you use and what side effects did you find you experienced?

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Marijuana's hair inhibiting effects are multiple-fold.

1. it causes vasoconstriction (this is a lot worse for hair than people undestand)

2. THC supposedly increases testosterone levels (which I guess you can offset with an AA)

3. THC directly inhibits hair shaft elongation

But if you're seeing gains with all the stuff you're taking in spite of that, then do as you like.

You know, I am mostly a non-believer in everything except HRT meds and oral minoxidil meaning nothing else essentially has any effects on hair at all or cosmtically significant. But I mean, I don't care. Estrogen plus cannabis equals heaven for me and I deem it a gift from Our Lady Above.<winks>

It makes me happy:

 

[Isneezedsohard]

I don't know but whatever causes the uptick in serotonin is what causes the vasoconstriction. All I can say is last year I had a very inconsiderate neighbor who smoked aggressively and it was so bad they got thrown out for it. But during that time my hair suffered because the smell was permeating the entire floor of our building.

And that imo was what was causing terrible problems for me, I had horrible headaches during that time. Not to mention that my mother who aggressively smoked marijuana from 2003 until this year recently had a stroke. I am under the personal belief that it was the vasoconstricting aspects of constant marijuana smoking that caused this.

This idea that marijuana is "natural" and therefore good for you is kind of a crock, in my opinion. It prematurely ages people by drying them out, it prevents hair growth, it jacks your androgens and constricts your blood vessels, not for me.



Also, has anyone on this discussion thread used biclutamide extensively? What dose did you use and what side effects did you find you experienced?

I'm deff not one of the people who thinks who weed is good for me. Hell; I think CBD's benefits are totally oversold too. I just like smoking a koint at the end of a long day. It's like a glass of wine for me.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

You know, I am mostly a non-believer in everything except HRT meds and oral minoxidil meaning nothing else essentially has any effects on hair at all or cosmtically significant. But I mean, I don't care. Estrogen plus cannabis equals heaven for me and I deem it a gift from Our Lady Above.<winks>

Artificial hormones are probably the only thing keeping your hair going then, I've seen both women older than me and my age look like absolute sh*t because they smoke too much. You're fortunate you, unlike most cis-women are not dependent upon their own hormone production to keep their hair and skin from declining due to use.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

I'm deff not one of the people who thinks who weed is good for me. Hell; I think CBD's benefits are totally oversold too. I just like smoking a koint at the end of a long day. It's like a glass of wine for me.

Depending on how significant your dependency upon marijuana is (and because of some people I've known, I absolutely believe some people can become dependent upon it to a destructive extent) I would say if you really want to see where your hair regrowth efforts could take you, try going off weed for an entire year and see how much progress you can make if you are having hair troubles.

 

[Isneezedsohard]

Depending on how significant your dependency upon marijuana is (and because of some people I've known, I absolutely believe some people can become dependent upon it to a destructive extent) I would say if you really want to see where your hair regrowth efforts could take you, try going off weed for an entire year and see how much progress you can make if you are having hair troubles.

Ugh I'll try but no promises lol! It would be easier if it wasn't for covid. Pot has definitely made quarantining and being alone all the time much more tolerable