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JaneyElizabeth

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Depending on how significant your dependency upon marijuana is (and because of some people I've known, I absolutely believe some people can become dependent upon it to a destructive extent) I would say if you really want to see where your hair regrowth efforts could take you, try going off weed for an entire year and see how much progress you can make if you are having hair troubles.
Nah. It's literally my own SSRI along with estrogen which have both helped me move past being male. I have a doctor and a therapist but I appreciate the concern. We will just have to see! Funny, because I went back to the wig for a while cause I look better with it on.

So here's what's going to happen. I am going to have a great recovery but I still look better with a wig on. Oh well. It's all fun for me!
 

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SHBG functions by attaching to hormones and preventing them from having an effect. Androgens, and particularly DHT, have a higher affinity for binding with SHBG than estrogens. So by increasing SHBG, free androgens will be reduced. Also, realize that estrogen will naturally increase the amount of SHBG. Your two options more or less do the same thing (though finasteride isn't necessary with bicalutamide since bicalutamide should prevent DHT from having an effect) except one includes estrogen which has numerous benefits. Theoretically, estrogen monotherapy could be sufficient since estrogen 1. will have antigonatropin effects causing your testicles, causing less androgen production; 2. increase SHBG, causing free blood serum DHT levels to fall; 3. will stimulate hair growth on its own. Many people choose to add an antiandrogen to estrogen to help boost its effects, though after long term use of estrogen an antiandrogen would theoretically no longer be needed (though everyone's body is different.)

Бикалутамид и спиронолактон являются антиандрогенами и действуют одинаково. Спиронолактон также обладает антиминерлокортикоидным действием, которое, по-видимому, оказывает благотворное влияние на рост волос, поэтому у спиронолактона есть преимущества, помимо его антиандрогенности. Однако это также вызывает побочные эффекты, и многие пользователи спиронолактона имеют значительные побочные эффекты и переходят на бикалутамид.

Кроме того, это просто предположение, никаких реальных научных данных, подтверждающих меня, но у спиронолактона может быть меньше шансов вызвать гино, чем у бикалутамида, или он может вызвать менее серьезную гинекомастию.
It turns out that you can take spironolactone to increase the shbg protein and esrogen to stimulate hair growth. Then why the hell am I taking Bicalutamide?
Yar grew his whiskey with just 50mg of spironolactone and 1.5 estrogen, with side effects like Bicalutamide, but better regrowth. Now I understand why spironolactone grows hair so well despite being weaker like AA. We are thinking how to block androgens, but the problem turned out to be in the shbg level ...
Finasteride reduces shbg. If you increase it, then you don't even need to block androgens.
 
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Ugh I'll try but no promises lol! It would be easier if it wasn't for covid. Pot has definitely made quarantining and being alone all the time much more tolerable

I know it's hard, but I would also absolutely try seeking an alternative that is less harmful to hair. Frankly I think having a beer would be less harmful to your hair than some of the effects of marijuana.

But you got to get by as you can, just realize that there are some reasonably well documented drawbacks to marijuana for males.
 

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It turns out that you can take spironolactone to increase the shbg protein and esrogen to stimulate hair growth. Then why the hell am I taking Bicalutamide?
Yar grew his whiskey with just 50mg of spironolactone and 1.5 estrogen, with side effects like Bicalutamide, but better regrowth. Now I understand why spironolactone grows hair so well despite being weaker like AA. We are thinking how to block androgens, but the problem turned out to be in the shbg level ...
Finasteride reduces shbg. If you increase it, then you don't even need to block androgens.

How significant are sides with spironolactone though? My impression with spironolactone is that it's guaranteed to give you bad gyno.

I probably might not be able to take spironolactone as my aldosterone levels aren't good to begin with.
 

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How significant are sides with spironolactone though? My impression with spironolactone is that it's guaranteed to give you bad gyno.
There are like 20 different things and they all hit you. Libido, gone. Strength, gone. Endurance, gone. You sweat all the time; You have to pee all of the time, brain fog and I am probably forgetting some sides that I had. Now I only used it with estrogen, not alone but it seemed more stereotypically "female" in terms of at least compound effects than estrogen alone. I have far more breast growth than I ever thought that I would tolerate in my hair quest but eh, you can't quit in the middle.
 

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I know it's hard, but I would also absolutely try seeking an alternative that is less harmful to hair. Frankly I think having a beer would be less harmful to your hair than some of the effects of marijuana.

But you got to get by as you can, just realize that there are some reasonably well documented drawbacks to marijuana for males.
Maybe ill trade the pot for red wine? trying to watch the calories.
 

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Yeah because I have addison's disease I already pee too much don't have enough water retention, etc, tired AF. I actually have to take fludrocortisone to keep my blood volume up. So I think I'll be giving spironolactone a miss.

But thank you for the reply, I appreciate the clarification.
 

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Maybe ill trade the pot for red wine? trying to watch the calories.

Polyphenols reduce 5AR and increased proliferation of derma papilla cells = some moderate improvement to hair growth.

Red wine is my sh*t, love a good malbec.
 

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Polyphenols reduce 5AR and increased proliferation of derma papilla cells = some moderate improvement to hair growth.

Red wine is my sh*t, love a good malbec.
We have some really good reds here in Virginia. Mourvedre is nice and several others. I am drinking Sutter Home right now but I have a good Japanese Scotch.
 

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Polyphenols reduce 5AR and increased proliferation of derma papilla cells = some moderate improvement to hair growth.

Red wine is my sh*t, love a good malbec.
f*** yes. Single serving should be enough im guessing. Since I don't drink a lot, im a bit of a light weight.
 

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without. Possibly estradiol. But im thinking the combo would f*** me up
See, I only used them in combo so maybe they were synergistic for me. So maybe spironolactone won't make you weak without estrogen. That was the reason I quit was because the strength loss wasn't manageable for me. I was exhausted all of the time. I say go for it. You only live once and you can titrate gently. So, I am going back to the wig for a while cause I am almost not clockable at all and my hair is too short but hopefully I am achieving attractive androgyny:

 

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Если люди смотрят на / r / третиноин, они включают использование различных носителей, поэтому я использовал миноксидил плюс эстрогель плюс ретин-А над шеей.
В восстановлении волос важен такой маркер, как ШБГ и уровень эстрадиола в крови. При восстановлении кожи головы следует повышать уровень роста волос в женских справочниках, так как этот параметр напрямую влияет на рост волос в андрогенной зоне, не удалось создать женские эталоны SHBG с пероральным прогестероном и эстрадиолом. Хотя это кажется возможным в исследованиях. Лучше спиронолактона нет никого!
[USER = 141950] @Yar [/ USER] сказал мне, что у него маленькая грудь. Черт возьми, этот чувак разгадал секрет андрогенной алопеции. Судя по его результатам, он прав. Проблема в белке SHBG ... Жалко, что мало делится своими мыслями
Итак, возможны 2 варианта:
50 мг бика + 1 мг финастерида
50 мг спиронолактона + 1,5 эстро

Первый вариант основан на теории андрогенов, а второй - на теории ГСПГ. Человек смог получить результат, работает! Я очень взволнован этой информацией, кажется,
Ели вы посмотрите все ветки на форуме есть ветки со спиронолактоном, у них отличные результыты
Оказывается, вы можете принимать спиронолактон для увеличения белка shbg и эстрогена для стимуляции роста волос. Тогда какого черта я принимаю бикалутамид?
Яр вырастил свой виски, используя всего 50 мг спиронолактона и 1,5 эстрогена, с побочными эффектами, такими как бикалутамид, но лучше с восстановлением роста. Теперь я понимаю, почему спиронолактон так хорошо отращивает волосы, несмотря на то, что он слабее, чем АА. Думаем как заблокировать андрогены, но проблема оказалась на уровне шбг ...
Финастерид снижает ШБГ. Если его увеличивать, то даже андрогены блокировать не нужно.вот как
Регулирует снижение андрогенов и увеличение эстрогенов этот белок shbg который бустится эстрогеном.У женщин он от природы будет высокий так как менструальный цикл выработки гормонов,в первой фазе цикла 1-14дней растет эстроген который проходит через печень тем самым у них идет выработка гспг который скрепляет андрогеныИ при этом они феменизированы так как белок shbg не только скрепляет андрогены но и доставляет эстрогены в ткани.
 

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В восстановлении волос важен такой маркер, как ШБГ и уровень эстрадиола в крови. При восстановлении кожи головы следует повышать уровень роста волос в женских справочниках, так как этот параметр напрямую влияет на рост волос в андрогенной зоне, не удалось создать женские эталоны SHBG с пероральным прогестероном и эстрадиолом. Хотя это кажется возможным в исследованиях. Лучше спиронолактона нет никого!

Ели вы посмотрите все ветки на форуме есть ветки со спиронолактоном, у них отличные результыты

Регулирует снижение андрогенов и увеличение эстрогенов этот белок shbg который бустится эстрогеном.У женщин он от природы будет высокий так как менструальный цикл выработки гормонов,в первой фазе цикла 1-14дней растет эстроген который проходит через печень тем самым у них идет выработка гспг который скрепляет андрогеныИ при этом они феменизированы так как белок shbg не только скрепляет андрогены но и доставляет эстрогены в ткани.
Yar I know that you have lots to say but we use the Roman alphabet<winks>
 
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