Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[JaneyElizabeth]

Hey, how much feminization and side effects would you tolerate?

Hey guys. You are obsessed with this topic so maybe post some on my thread and I will share my secrets but that is an interesting question that we all have to deal with. I write often about being attractive and that is my only caveat since some MtF's maybe well you know, can end up looking worse and there are no guarantees with the hair but for anyone with a decent smallish face, I know all of the steps.

 

[Almas]

Hey, how much feminization and side effects would you tolerate?

As much as will not disfigure me. I am Asian with a wide face, I have no idea how it will look on me

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

As much as will not disfigure me. I am Asian with a wide face, I have no idea how it will look on me

Hmm. Bad on me for assuming you were white. Hair loss is especially hard on Asians. By your name, I am guessing either the Philippines or Taiwan. If you want to PM me pics or work on this then just post on my thread and I get an email.

 

[Almas]

Hmm. Bad on me for assuming you were white. Hair loss is especially hard on Asians. By your name, I am guessing either the Philippines or Taiwan. If you want to PM me pics or work on this then just post on my thread and I get an email.

Is hair loss even more aggressive in Asians? Didn't hear about it. Anyway, I already realized that I was in deep sh*t

 

[Almas]

Hmm. Bad on me for assuming you were white. Hair loss is especially hard on Asians. By your name, I am guessing either the Philippines or Taiwan. If you want to PM me pics or work on this then just post on my thread and I get an email.

I am Kazakh by nationality. I don't think you've heard of this at all
But you may have watched the movie "Borat" lol

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Has anyone tried topical SERMs on breast tissue to get rid of gyno?

That sounds like something that is both risky and a waste of money.

Just get the gyno snip if it's a huge problem.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I am Kazakh by nationality. I don't think you've heard of this at all
But you may have watched the movie "Borat" lol

No, I know of it and yes, there is a new silly movie on Amazon. That can be tough because you might have, well, isn't it on the Silk road sort of? Do you speak Russian? Are you Orthodox?

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

That sounds like something that is both risky and a waste of money.

Just get the gyno snip if it's a huge problem.

Now, Dogo. Yes, I have heard of this but I am not sure if it was topical, oral or both. There are always a couple of non-binary MtF's posting about this on the reddit sites who claim that Serms can deflate breast growth which well now sounds like a bug to me and not a feature.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Hmm. Bad on me for assuming you were white. Hair loss is especially hard on Asians. By your name, I am guessing either the Philippines or Taiwan. If you want to PM me pics or work on this then just post on my thread and I get an email.

I would say if only because it's possibly a more complicated problem as a lot of asians don't have ridiculously high testosterone to begin with. Fortunately for me it was only once I started seeing my test levels climb a lot did I see my hair loss take off again, could also be other hormones but that just serves the point that it was only until things got drastically out of control that I noticed any problems.

So the question is what is a protocol for somebody who may already have somewhat high estrogen to begin with, in the case of such people I would look to inflammation, specifically, I would try oral minoxidil for them. I am eventually getting to that point, but only after being very much put off of topical minoxidil back in 2012.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Now, Dogo. Yes, I have heard of this but I am not sure if it was topical, oral or both. There are always a couple of non-binary MtF's posting about this on the reddit sites who claim that Serms can deflate breast growth which well now sounds like a bug to me and not a feature.

Serms could also f*** with your hair gains if they go systemic, so it would be like swimming a race in leg irons, no thanks.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I would say if only because it's possibly a more complicated problem as a lot of asians don't have ridiculously high testosterone to begin with.

So the question is what is a protocol for somebody who may already have somewhat high estrogen to begin with, in the case of such people I would look to inflammation, specifically, I would try oral minoxidil for them. I am eventually getting to that point, but only after being very much put off of topical minoxidil back in 2012.

Yes. Baldness used to be rare in the "orient" but it is increasing maybe due to stress and western diet.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Serms could also f*** with your hair gains if they go systemic, so it would be like swimming a race in leg irons, no thanks.

Yeah. I mean when I counsel people it doesn't thrill me when they ask me how to grow boobs and still be able to top or they want the opposite, not to grow boobs and still be able to top.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Yes. Baldness used to be rare in the "orient" but it is increasing maybe due to stress and western diet.

Really? I don't know, I kind of feel like that might be a western perception. Samurai of old used to shave their pate to be like the samurai who would go bald because they thought it looked alpha I guess.

I do think insulin resistance is a factor but I agree that the stress of the modern world has taken its toll as well.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Really? I don't know, I kind of feel like that might be a western perception. Samurai of old used to shave their pate to be like the samurai who would go bald because they thought it looked alpha I guess.

I do think insulin resistance is a factor but I agree that the stress of the modern world has taken its toll as well.

I mean I think that I have read that baldness is on the rise in China I remember that I used to eat tofu and became a vegetarian since people in Japan had great hair but it didn't work, lol and tofu sucks!

 

[Almas]

One thing is for sure: this sh*t began to hit the young, although earlier it was a disease of the old.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Yes, I only know Russian and grew up under the influence of Russian culture. Soon I will leave for Russia to live with people like myself. I'm trans Russian lol. I am not religious, but Russian Orthodox culture is closer to me than Islam and black speech.

Oh, I thought you were a cis-men.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

One thing is for sure: this sh*t began to hit the young, although earlier it was a disease of the old.

Yes. Asians have protection but nothing close to Siberians, the Inuit and Native Americans in which male and female hair barely differs. The farther away from the Mediterranean that one's forebears come from, the less baldness.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Oh, I thought you were a cis-men.

I think he means "trans" in the usage of "across". But no, trans folks are less welcome in Slavic countries for some reason but then again I am not welcome where I grew up sadly.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I think he means "trans" in the usage of "across". But no, trans folks are less welcome in Slavic countries for some reason but then again I am not welcome where I grew up sadly.

I mean this is pretty amazing to me to have people from all over the world to correspond with and now seems to be prime time.

 

[Ephemeral-Kitten]

It's your perception that I'm being condescending, you're completely disqualifying the bandwagoneering tendencies of the average person to hop trends on the basis that they feel lost and overlooked and not "special". Put it this way, when it comes to women becoming trans I am in full agreement with J.K Rowling, women do this sh*t for attention far more than men do.

There are nothing but drawbacks for men to transition even still, the only exception being that I do believe there are a lot of evil mothers out there who would put shitty evil ideas in their little boys head that they are trans or trying to convince them they are. I hate to say it but women are like that.

However just look at people like Chris Chan, 100% fake trans, literally abandoned being a guy because he couldn't get any pussy and wanted to erase his old identity because it had become synonymous with ridicule. Not to mention the fact that he could get away with being a fatass with man titties if he pretended he was a woman.

Again, with the acquaintance I had who was FTM, it was extremely obvious to everyone who knew (her) that she had some deep seated self loathing and didn't exactly feel male, they were trying to get away from themselves for some reason, whether it was abuse or something else which caused that negative self image. Not genuinely transgender.

That sh*t happens A LOT more than you're possibly willing to accept because you're an ideological adherent and not looking at this whole thing pragmatically. Not saying trans people don't exist, I am 100% saying that a lot of people are bandwagon jumpers.

And now for the last time, I do not want to talk about this, and I don't want to hear about your faux moralizing and illogically claiming I have a bias when I can cite better examples than you can by merely begging the question.

ok as long as HRT is accessible for under 18s so they don't get their bones destroyed by T+GH synergy and have to live with the disfigurement for the rest of their lives because of some bad luck with a Y chromosome and/or SRY gene activation. I really don't care about anything more than that. Pharma grade estradiol should be over the counter, really.