Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[I'mme]

Man, you wouldn't believe that I myself had already been lost 60% of my hair when I posted my last pic. Then the same guy @Sonolmn98 trolled me and said I have a full head of hair. Photos are not the best way to tell if someone is balding or not. Dr. William Rassman has repeatedly emphasised this point in many of his posts. If only @Sonolmn98 knew this fact.

Where can I see that pic?

Yes, my flatmate can clearly tell me how less I've them left, but whenever I take pics it invariably show alot more.

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

Where can I see that pic?

Yes, my flatmate can clearly tell me how less I've them left, but whenever I take pics it invariably show alot more.

I don't remember the page number but I guess it would be around 180 or something.

 

[Ikarus]

Um.. Maybe 60% but it is alot. I'vebbeen losing alot more since starting treatment - dunno why.
Now I ve to keep them flat against my scalp. I can make that buff or whatever it is called. That is to say I can't comb them the way I would like to.

That is not 60%; snap out of it! You have lost around 30%...

Nonetheless, you are having an initial shed with spironolactone... I had that, and I lost even more hair but then it began to thicken.

 

[I'mme]

That is not 60%; snap out of it! You have lost around 30%...

Nonetheless, you are having an initial shed with spironolactone... I had that, and I lost even more hair but then it began to thicken.

I will continue to argue like a child, but it is way more than 30%. I can comb my hair upward now. Rarely it is possible with caboki.

Thank God! I never believed anything such as shed exists until it happened to me.

 

[I'mme]

*can't

 

[hahahamyhairisdead]

Another unknown Internet user giving me gyaan (unsolicited advices).

For the f*****g last time, I'm uploading some pics that demonstrate that I'm actually losing hair.
See them and tell me - how on earth a person who has lost about 70% of density can not be balding?

Now for some people who just read things to reinforce their beliefs and don't really consider the truth even after sufficient evidences, put forth before them : I'm a right winger who is fond of masculine characteristics and has even on this thread where people call estrogen to be superior hormone, defended musculine traits like aggression, assertiveness, stoicism etc. Why would I consider anti-androgens if I wasn't actually losing hair?

[expecting a shower of dislikes for I have questioned estrogen being superior. Just that you know, I don't care; and I mean it, not just because it's a trend to say this.]

Oh. yes, you're balding. Your situation is like my own in 2016, but still better.

 

[Ikarus]

Oh. yes, you're balding. Your situation is like my own in 2016, but still better.

My hair was exactly like yours!!!

 

[I'mme]

Oh. yes, you're balding. Your situation is like my own in 2016, but still better.

Now you're better or worse off? If better, what worked for you?

 

[I'mme]

My hair was exactly like yours!!!

I thought you were losing in male pattern baldness pattern.

 

[Ikarus]

I thought you were losing in male pattern baldness pattern.

I am diffuse thinning in the pattern of a female...

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

I read that HCG injections can restore testicular function. Does anyone have any idea about its impact on hair?

 

[Derelict]

I decided to cut my dose to 100mg of spironolactone in the evening instead of dropping it completely, dunno if a dose that small will be beneficial for hair but we'll see, also see if i get any sides. I intend to post pics in a couple of weeks since my hair is looking better already on my strict regimen for the past few months, still looks like complete sh*t when when wet though.

 

[bridgeburn]

i think it started with me losing my hair and then progressed to every other aspect of my life, not knowing why i exist or if my self awareness is an illusion that will one day cease to happen with no knowledge or memory that this thing that i call "I" was ever self aware, or if everything is a dream or if i am even real, and a constant worry that i am going mad telling myself that i am not going crazy and feelings that everything is an illusion. hair loss probably kick-started this mental illness of mine and my idea is that if i can get back to nw0 then the trauma in my mind will go away, but i can't be sure that is how it will turn out.

I suffer with quite severe derealisation, until the point that there is no point on living because I can’t understand what living is anymore. It’s one of the most horrible feelings... When I wake up in the morning, I look outside my window feeling lost and confused; throughout the day, it’s a sensation that I’m a soul inside of a shell.

I obssesed a long time with deep thoughts, escapism, and particularly negative thoughts I spent too much time feeding.

This world is full of illusions and tricks. That is the nature of this world. Nothing is what it seems, at least not completely. I questioned many times if life is some dreams world dream. Other humans are not real, they have extremely twisted, altered identity of thier true nature. like the same ray of light looks different depending on the medium it passes through. I believe every soul has multiple pontential personalities.

when I was a kid, teachers noticed I was always in a daze, disconnected from outside reality. I was diagnosed with ADD as a teenager but I refused to take medicine. I don't really believe in it.

Being raised in a very religious family mentally stunted me and being from a small Southern town which worships Trump and has a church on every corner. I did not support gay and trans people. It wasn't until 19 that I lost my religion and I could begin to think my own thoughts without restriction and explore my "shadow self". By that time I was going bald, I tried hard to not care.

I hated life and hated humans.

It helps to find an outlet.. try it. For me, I became dedicated to my artwork.. In a weird way, I became grateful for subjective suffering because it was a fuel for better art. I think that expression is more important than happiness. Through artistic trance and focus, I could see what myself was trying to tell myself.

I feel like my life, my current life only recently began because religion stole my childhood and hairloss ripped a hole in my young adulthood.. I yearn deeply to relive it and redo it. I'm f*****g 28, almost 29 now.. I feel like a little kid.

You two are young and have time and much to live for. Take Hrt, go skydiving, learn a instrument, travel.

but get enough sleep.. never do shift work

 

[bridgeburn]

I've been Tripping hard on DXM all weekend to disassociate and dull my thoguhts from what i would call the worst day of my young life because someone shattered my heart and mind on friday, so i might not be able to fully Express what im trying to say cause im still intoxicated but i had the same experience as you as a child grew up in a strictly religious family and nothing was without god and church was my childhood, i used to be agianst gays and trans too and as i grew older I'd say at 17 i began to actually go out and explore what life was, and then LSD stripped away my entire identity and wiped my ego clean and i lost my religion as i was tripping, staring up at the stars on a cold clear winter night and realized that god was not there and that i am an animal on a planet, how mad i felt that i had been lied to my whole life and that night a spark ignited in my head and my mind was flooded with a trillion questions about my existence and at that time is when my hair first started to become noticeable to me that it was thinning along my hair line and then i started to become obsessed as it got worse and i got lost in my head with all kinds of theorys and ideas, i was diagnosed with adhd as a kid and the teachers always complained that i never paid attention because i was always lost in a fantasy and growing up was really difficult in the environment i was in, i feel like my life was kept in a cage and i wasn't able to unlock it untill i turned 18 and now im 22 and i have a lot of regret for the time wasted as a kid because of the way i was raised and i wish i could relive it too and I'm kind of trying to make up for it in my 20s i feel like i missed out in so much and losing my hair so early in life crippled me from taking important steps in life and i pretended not to care but it was destroying me inside and i felt insane. I try to have hobbys and i do sleep most of my free time but i still don't feel good, i feel like something really big is missing from my life.

You're expressing it just fine! damnn, this sounds so much like me.
I started noticing hairloss at 17 too. I nearly failed highschool but teachers were angry at me because they knew I was smart and thought I could've chosen to do better.
I never did any drugs back then. My dad spent about half of my childhood in either jail or prison and so I had a negative association.. I imagined I would be a DEA agent someday. I resented drugs so much I even thought taking a Tylenol for a headache was immoral Lol.. Now look at all the medicine I've tried. Maybe because you took LSD you were able to escape the "cage" earlier.
its hard to put in words, but I question if I have lost something, some kind of potential that can never be regained again.

 

[Ikarus]

I obssesed a long time with deep thoughts, escapism, and particularly negative thoughts I spent too much time feeding.

This world is full of illusions and tricks. That is the nature of this world. Nothing is what it seems, at least not completely. I questioned many times if life is some dreams world dream. Other humans are not real, they have extremely twisted, altered identity of thier true nature. like the same ray of light looks different depending on the medium it passes through. I believe every soul has multiple pontential personalities.

when I was a kid, teachers noticed I was always in a daze, disconnected from outside reality. I was diagnosed with ADD as a teenager but I refused to take medicine. I don't really believe in it.

Being raised in a very religious family mentally stunted me and being from a small Southern town which worships Trump and has a church on every corner. I did not support gay and trans people. It wasn't until 19 that I lost my religion and I could begin to think my own thoughts without restriction and explore my "shadow self". By that time I was going bald, I tried hard to not care.

I hated life and hated humans.

It helps to find an outlet.. try it. For me, I became dedicated to my artwork.. In a weird way, I became grateful for subjective suffering because it was a fuel for better art. I think that expression is more important than happiness. Through artistic trance and focus, I could see what myself was trying to tell myself.

I feel like my life, my current life only recently began because religion stole my childhood and hairloss ripped a hole in my young adulthood.. I yearn deeply to relive it and redo it. I'm f*****g 28, almost 29 now.. I feel like a little kid.

You two are young and have time and much to live for. Take Hrt, go skydiving, learn a instrument, travel.

but get enough sleep.. never do shift work

I live in a religious family which are against those who are LGBT, and seemingly those who are Jewish. Since a young age, I didn’t care for religion and I accepted anyone for their truest identity. However, I didn’t understand much of what people would tell me; I didn’t know what gay meant until my early teenage years, I was that sheltered from reality. If I saw a drag queen on TV, I would be confused because it’s a woman with a deep voice so I would feel bad for her since she must be suffering with some sort of hormonal issue. Stupid, right?

I am normally in world of my own, where I keep my thoughts to myself and live in a constant daze. I felt happy about that most of the time, but then my mind began to be violated by the outside world. That’s when different sorts of mental illnesses cropped up; high-school definitely lead to the formation of most issues. It lead to be feeling insanely dumb because I wasn’t on par in cleverness compared to other students, and this would constantly be shoved down my throat by teachers. Along with that, I was dealing with other issues which lead to me just becoming dead. I kept my hopes up that life would get better, but then I dropped out of college a few times (for particular reasons) and then I began getting hair loss - as if things couldn’t get any worse. I can’t even get a break! And then I spiralled into wondering why I’m being punished. Punished for existing? Do those people who tormented me ever have to deal with these issues? Or am I just insanely unlucky? Am I even meant to be alive; is my existence a mistake? I don’t dwell on the past anymore, but it’s the issues which carry on.

I feel a lot better nowadays, but I just want things to get back on track. I try to do things which make me happy, and make me feel best. I try to ignore the outside world, and just do anything which makes me happy. Whether if that’s writing, watching YouTube, researching real-life crimes and mysteries, or continuing my musical abilities. I want to have a successful career, and have a life where I no longer have to suffer. But most of all, I just want to be happy. Once I deal with hair loss, I hopefully will feel confident enough in myself to continue my life. I want to be able to leave my house without care. I want to go on swings without fear that the wind will blow the hood off my head and reveal my hair. It’s the basic things which hair loss has taken away from me which seemingly matter the most...!!!

 

[bridgeburn]

But most of all, I just want to be happy. Once I deal with hair loss, I hopefully will feel confident enough in myself to continue my life. I want to be able to leave my house without care. I want to go on swings without fear that the wind will blow the hood off my head and reveal my hair. It’s the basic things which hair loss has taken away from me which seemingly matter the most...!!!

ohh, yes so true.. I couldn't remember what it felt like to enjoy the wind blowing in my face. I got to that point, where I couldn't do anything except search and think about hair, it the first thing I thought about every morning I woke up. No enjoyment in anything I enjoy because hair is a foundational requirement to develop all else and truly live

 

[baba_yaga]

ohh, yes so true.. I couldn't remember what it felt like to enjoy the wind blowing in my face. I got to that point, where I couldn't do anything except search and think about hair, it the first thing I thought about every morning I woke up. No enjoyment in anything I enjoy because hair is a foundational requirement to develop all else and truly live

I feel what you are talking about. Although my hair loss is not noticeable, it is severe for my age. Every morning I always log in here and check threads. But the last couple days, I am trying to forget about it. I feel like my body is now addicted to the feeling of depression caused by thinking about hair loss. It is hard to stay away, as I am writing this reply right now

 

[hahahamyhairisdead]

Now you're better or worse off? If better, what worked for you?

I shave my head. Worse because I dropped all medicine (minoxidil, duta, bica, vitamins, dermapen etc).

I have diffuse thinning. 1st pic - 2015 (20 y.o)
2, 3 - now

 

[Ikarus]

I shave my head. Worse because I dropped all medicine (minoxidil, duta, bica, vitamins, dermapen etc).

I have diffuse thinning. 1st pic - 2015 (20 y.o)
2, 3 - now

Why’d you drop bicalutamide?

 

[jenny-death]

Hi guys, have not posted since I first came here. I've been on my regimen for a little over 3 weeks at this point, and yet I haven't noticed a single difference. Zero change in libido, really oily skin, no breast sensitivity, and definitely no stopping of hair loss.

My hair is shedding at a seemingly even faster rate. I just ruffled my hair for about 60 seconds and near covered my entire desk with hair. In fact I can pull out 5 hairs just by pinching my head. I'm wondering if I haven't waited long enough yet or I should up my dose to 25mg of cypro already. I've already increased my estradiol to 4mg.

I just find it strange that not one of these medications - from minoxidil to dutasteride, have even remotely slowed my hair loss. Seems my situation is worse than I thought.