Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Adri23]

noo from taking it 3 times a week i wanna take 25 mg once a week and not taking it

Oh oke, that makes more sense.

Will my T still be suppressed with my current e2 dosage?

Yes

 

[sg2000]

Weren't you taking it 3 times per week? Why would you do daily now?

I think it can still be high but you can keep it for now till you do the next blood test after a month or two without cpa to see how are things going and then change the dosage(or not) depending on the blood test results

by high you mean T or the dosage? If you mean the T that would be a problem since i will be forced to take higher doses of e2 for a stupid thing i did(taking cpa in the first place with already high e2 doses) and then needing more to suppress my T

 

[Adri23]

by high you mean T or the dosage? If you mean the T that would be a problem since i will be forced to take higher doses of e2 for a stupid thing i did(taking cpa in the first place with already high e2 doses) and then needing more to suppress my T

No I meant high E dosage

 

[coco_304]

Will probably affect it as well. Oral Minoxidil still needs sulfotransferase activity.

When what about low dose aspirin? Like 100 mg

 

[Adri23]

Overall, feel free do dislike this, but I think that minoxidil advantages while on HRT are oveblown. Here, I said it!

I think many ppl can still benefit from it. I was stuck with uneven and kinda recessed temples despite years of HRT and after using topical minoxidil it turned most of the stubborn vellus hair terminal. I never had a decent hairline and I have a good amount of hair there after 2-3 months of adding topical minoxidil with tret.

All of the hair on the hairline in both pics are thanks to topical minoxidil + tretinoin.

 

[Adri23]

Minx gave me more hair than baseline. First pic was me when I was 5 yo (so no Androgenetic Alopecia) second pic is a pic taken right now. As you can se my temples got fuller and that is because minoxidil turned many vellus that never went meant to be real hair to terminal ones

 

[Adri23]

Agreed with everything you said, including tret, although its giving me eczema. Just trying to say that if most of someones vellus hair already turned terminal, and they use minoxidil (on HRT) mostly for maintenance, their need in minoxidil might be far less than they think, cause HRT provides maintenance by itself.

Yes but the issue is if you have been taking minoxidil for years and you stop it. It could be a disaster. Also yeah if you dont take minoxidil pre HRT it is not needed unless you still have vellus hair on hairline that was never meant to turn thick unless you use topical minoxidil with tret there.

Some ppl(like me) have uneven hairline and bit of receded temples since always, so realistically we cant do nothing to improve our hairlines other than using minoxidil to make natural vellus hair into terminal or hair transplant

 

[Adri23]

My hair was already sh*t when i was 5, and i had no eyebrows lol.

It is ridiculous how we have better hair now than when we were 5 even after going full male puberty haha

 

[Adri23]

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Not bad hair, I cant see the hairline tho, which Imo it is the hardest to born with a perfect one

 

[Adri23]

Ye, same problem. Kinda maintained the hairline after canceling minoxidil tho (even though hair color is a little lighter on temples now), mb because didn't shed too much. The hairline is still trash tho, and 4head is huge, but I'm pretty sure its meant to be like that.

Yeah i think dor cases like ours either topical minoxidil in temples and hairline or transplant.. or maybe both . I will do a transplant when I get a job. It shouldnt cost that much because I will need a small one

 

[losingbattle88]

@Adri23 but wtf i want that f*****g 200 dht scalp reduction!! At this point i should be even worry about that 15 percent scalp dht left if i manage to take 2,5 mg a day!!
How high my scalp dht would be now assuming that at 0.5 mg of dutasteride and at 22 ng dl serum level dht my scalp dht was 50-60 percent reduced???

I think many ppl can still benefit from it. I was stuck with uneven and kinda recessed temples despite years of HRT and after using topical minoxidil it turned most of the stubborn vellus hair terminal. I never had a decent hairline and I have a good amount of hair there after 2-3 months of adding topical minoxidil with tret.

All of the hair on the hairline in both pics are thanks to topical minoxidil + tretinoin.

U see what u want to see but I see no difference.

 

[Adri23]

U see what u want to see but I see no difference.

U cant see a different cause both of my pics are taken today lmfao. If you mean me vs my 5 yo me, well it is a clear diff especially on the left temple.

 

[losingbattle88]

U cant see a different cause both of my pics are taken today lmfao. If you mean me vs my 5 yo me, well it is a clear diff especially on the left temple.

Meant the adult pics lmao.

 

[Adri23]

Meant the adult pics lmao.

Completely normal that you couldnt see anny diff x)

 

[sg2000]

Completely normal that you couldnt see anny diff x)

bro honestly when did you had results?After 6 or 12 months?
Im almost 6 months and im still fucked i might be the one who doesnt respond not kiddinng.
Wtf how is it even possible?might this jot be rrlated to agav

 

[Adri23]

bro honestly when did you had results?After 6 or 12 months?
Im almost 6 months and im still fucked i might be the one who doesnt respond not kiddinng.
Wtf how is it even possible?might this jot be rrlated to agav
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I'll be on hrt for 3 years on june 6. Just so you know, my hair didnt improve till recently. But it is not because more time on hrt = more hair(on my case), but because I am slowly discovering what works and what doesnt.

For now:

Things that does not work for me:

-CPA( will never touch that ever again)
-Bica higher dosages than 12.5 mg(tends to spike my dht somehow)
-Dutasteride 0.5 mg(pure placebo for my hair)
- 1.25mg or less oral minoxidil (my mid scalp start to get worse)

Things that works(giving the best hair I've ever had):

-Estradiol injections(very consistent e2 levels)
-Bicalutamide 12.5 mg daily(good balance between good hair and skin and doesnt seem to cause any trouble. It also helps with oral minoxidil hypertrichosis)
- Dutasteride 1+ mg( basically to get real benefits and not placebo. Also reduces my shedding to like 10-15 hair at most in shower after two days of not washing my hair)
- Oral minoxidil 2.5 mg( good balance between hair and hypertrichosis. More than 2.5 mg gives me heart sides and wild hypertrichosis)
-Topical minoxidil 5% + tretinoin cream on temples and hairline( huge gains on hairline and temples. It was recently added and it gave me the best hairline I've ever had in my life).

Possible things that works for hair too by reducing inflammation(which directly impact hair health and 0 scalp tenderness);

-Antioxidants (Astaxanthin, vitamin C, vitamin E, GlyNac)
- Omega 3 DHA & EPA
- Vitamin D3+K2
- Having a healthy and balanced diet and limiting inflammatory foods and sugar

 

[Adri23]

bro honestly when did you had results?After 6 or 12 months?
Im almost 6 months and im still fucked i might be the one who doesnt respond not kiddinng.
Wtf how is it even possible?might this jot be rrlated to agav
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And btw I had that exact same pattern while on CPA

 

[sg2000]

I have been on hrt for 3 years on june 6. Just so you know, my hair didnt improve till recently. But it is not because more time on hrt = more hair(on my case), but because I am slowly discovering what works and what doesnt.

For now:

Things that does not work for me:

-CPA( will never touch that ever again)
-Bica higher dosages than 12.5 mg(tends to spike my dht somehow)
-Dutasteride 0.5 mg(pure placebo for my hair)
- 1.25mg or less oral minoxidil (my mid scalp start to get worse)

Things that works(giving the best hair I've ever had):

-Estradiol injections(very consistent e2 levels)
-Bicalutamide 12.5 mg daily(good balance between good hair and skin and doesnt seem to cause any trouble. It also helps with oral minoxidil hypertrichosis)
- Dutasteride 1+ mg( basically to get real benefits and not placebo. Also reduces my shedding to like 10-15 hair at most in shower after two days of not washing my hair)
- Oral minoxidil 2.5 mg( good balance between hair and hypertrichosis. More than 2.5 mg gives me heart sides and wild hypertrichosis)
-Topical minoxidil 5% + tretinoin cream on temples and hairline( huge gains on hairline and temples. It was recently added and it gave me the best hairline I've ever had in my life).

Possible things that works for hair too by reducing inflammation(which directly impact hair health and 0 scalp tenderness);

-Antioxidants (Astaxanthin, vitamin C, vitamin E, GlyNac)
- Omega 3 DHA & EPA
- Vitamin D3+K2
- Having a healthy and balanced diet and limiting inflammatory foods and sugar

when you switched to injections and were on bica if i remember correctly that was your peak time hair.when did you start seeing results that period?

 

[sg2000]

And btw I had that exact same pattern while on CPA

Today i took my last pill of cpa.Do you think its gonna improve at least after 3 months?

 

[sg2000]

And btw I had that exact same pattern while on CPA

i think this pattern is the same when i was on dutasteride and om so pre everything