I saw so many significantly balding men with attractive partners today

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I'm not sure about that. I am some of those things but I have several times been told "I can't believe that you used to be shy as a youngster". I really believe that I am fine in social situations and certainly don't have any disorders. My problems are 100% due to my hair loss and the overall way that I look, in my opinion. Maybe I could be more fun or funny or spontaneous or adventurous or any of those things, but character traits like mine don't hold most guys back, as far as I know. Going to the movies alone is great and I recommend that everybody try it. What is maybe more sad is going to music shows or sports or plays alone, dressing up all smart and all. But the friends that I have are in different stages of life or aren't interested enough in things like this (like the sports that I like) to pay large amounts to go and see it. I'm absolutely miserable so I am not surprised nor indignant that I don't have a larger social circle. If a guy doesn't have social disorders then it's likely due to the way that he looks or a troubled childhood why he struggles. For me it's the way that I look. @Oknow has shown us that being Norwood 2 really does mean the world. Some of the stuff that he posts still doesn't seem like reality to me. More than 5 matches in a week? People not canceling dates? People wanting to see you again or wanting you to settle down with them? Seems like something from a different planet, to me.

get a system and put your hypothesis to the test
 

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wouldnt have a relationship with someone i met off an app dont care

even if i wasnt bald i wouldnt
feel bad for guys aho i see in relatjonships with datjng app girls
Many are very happy. There are lots of dating app girls who are on there not because they want lots of access to lots of NW1 guys but because they are a little bit introverted or shy or inexperienced and do not meet guys easily in other places. And if you are a bald guy using apps and getting matches, I think that you are more likely to match this kind because the experienced ladies know that bald guys look just as bad in person.
 

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Many are very happy. There are lots of dating app girls who are on there not because they want lots of access to lots of NW1 guys but because they are a little bit introverted or shy or inexperienced and do not meet guys easily in other places. And if you are a bald guy using apps and getting matches, I think that you are more likely to match this kind because the experienced ladies know that bald guys look just as bad in person.

I know lots of people who have met their wives/husbands from dating apps
 

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Many are very happy. There are lots of dating app girls who are on there not because they want lots of access to lots of NW1 guys but because they are a little bit introverted or shy or inexperienced and do not meet guys easily in other places. And if you are a bald guy using apps and getting matches, I think that you are more likely to match this kind because the experienced ladies know that bald guys look just as bad in person.
yea there are some outliars but dating apps = mostly trash.
 

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Do what exactly? Fear of what exactly? I'm bald and most of the parts of life that I care about are already decided based on that.
you're scared of finasteride, you're scared of committing to a system... it's odd how you can focus this hard on a single issue, on what's by your own admission a life-shattering disorder, yet at the same time be too scared to try and attempt to alleviate it. rationally, if baldness is the worst thing in the world, as you say it it is, why have any fear at all?
I'm no Freud but it almost appears you cling to your baldness as an escape, something you can pin all your failings on without having to question the other dimensions of your life/personality
 

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you're scared of finasteride, you're scared of committing to a system... it's odd how you can focus this hard on a single issue, on what's by your own admission a life-shattering disorder, yet at the same time be too scared to try and attempt to alleviate it. rationally, if baldness is the worst thing in the world, as you say it it is, why have any fear at all?
I'm no Freud but it almost appears you cling to your baldness as an escape, something you can pin all your failings on without having to question the other dimensions of your life/personality

he likes the attention.
 

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I hope he does tbh, then he gets something from all this at least. dude's been stuck in the same limbo for years, it's horrifying to watch really, time waits for no man

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I hope he does tbh, then he gets something from all this at least. dude's been stuck in the same limbo for years, it's horrifying to watch really, time waits for no man

On a serious note, he likes to use me as an example to justify his point, but he doesn't seem to realise, I have dry spells, then work out how to overcome them to get the odds in my favour. Like recently was not getting many matches, then reconfigured my dating app settings, now they are flowing again.

If I were him, and thought hair was the issue, I would get a hairsystem, find someone, get into a long term relationship, then take it off once it is a secure relationship. By that point, the woman will probably be understanding.

If not, start the process again.
 

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On a serious note, he likes to use me as an example to justify his point, but he doesn't seem to realise, I have dry spells, then work out how to overcome them to get the odds in my favour. Like recently was not getting many matches, then reconfigured my dating app settings, now they are flowing again.

If I were him, and thought hair was the issue, I would get a hairsystem, find someone, get into a long term relationship, then take it off once it is a secure relationship. By that point, the woman will probably be understanding.

If not, start the process again.
how about if ur 5'3 deformed nw7 ? then what
 

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On a serious note, he likes to use me as an example to justify his point, but he doesn't seem to realise, I have dry spells, then work out how to overcome them to get the odds in my favour. Like recently was not getting many matches, then reconfigured my dating app settings, now they are flowing again.

If I were him, and thought hair was the issue, I would get a hairsystem, find someone, get into a long term relationship, then take it off once it is a secure relationship. By that point, the woman will probably be understanding.

If not, start the process again.
whining is easier...
he should have gotten a system years ago...

everybody has issues dating, i usually had issues getting relationships (everything else, easy) for years...
 

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yea but the issue is for some people it would take a tonne of effort to increase your odds by 5%

that just goes to show that your problem is that you have a sense of self-entitlement, you basically think that women should not have preferences and automatically like you, ignoring your flaws, as opposed to finding ways (like the rest of us average guys) to improve the odds in our favour. Don’t want to put the work in.

if you and @doubleindemnity think that hair loss is holding you both back, wig it and see if results change.

delusional
 

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whining is easier...
he should have gotten a system years ago...

everybody has issues dating, i usually had issues getting relationships (everything else, easy) for years...

Best part is, he makes it out that it’s super easy for me when it isn’t

starting to pick up now but I was in a sh*t drought last 3 months where I kept on getting rejected and some of them were harsh - racial abuse by Muslim
Arabs (twice!) - anyone here telling me to date only Muslims can f*** off , they have preferences too

to change the odds in my favour I’ve updated my profile with more current photos, and a video of me, so women can see what I look like in a non static form, and also reconfigured my app filter settings so that I have more opportunities. Getting more matches now.

it’s hard work
 
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