Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016
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All I did was review Brotzu's presented work thus far, and investigate equol in literature.
Equol is the only thing in the lotion that can address the androgenetic aspect, which is necessary in order to address the condition. As we all know, a growth enhancer alone such as minoxidil only yields a temporary benefit as it does not halt the underlying progressive mechanism.
So being able to address the androgenetic aspect is everything. To that extent, literature only shows a mild alleviation of androgenic effects such as post-menopausal hot flashes and easing of benign prostatic hyperplasia symptoms. And that is with orally dosing 10-100x the dose as per Brotzu's patent.
Now, drug delivery can certainly have a great impact on the pharmacodynamics of the drug and certainly liposomes have a great potential to enhance the drug's effect and to deposit the drug selectively within the follicles; this is well known within the field. So Brotzu's claims are certainly possible.
So it's not really a matter of belief.
All this cult like behavior is just retarded if you ask me. Anyone in this thread who claims that it will definitely work or that definitely won't is not worth paying attention to, regardless of the outcome. There is a non-zero chance of me guessing winning lottery tickets, but me getting it right doesn't absolve me of pulling sh*t out of my ***. In other words, I don't care for giving credit for guesses.
I also don't give a flying f*** if the doctor is famous or if a cousin's gf's daughter grew a mop of hair from smelling Brotzu's armpits. The anecdotes are amusing but they do not qualify the claims. Only real data will. And that is lacking on Brotzu's part. Now that being said, I am very happy about the announcement of the conference presentation and I of course welcome Brotzu's findings. Proper trichological quantification and good experimental design are all I have ever asked for.
So if you ask me, it's best to shut the f*** up and wait a few days, and maybe have an informed discussion AFTER the conference. But that requires the ability to control one's own hysteria, maintain civility and engage in objective, rational thought - not playing team sports, not preaching one's opinions to others, not engaging in ad hominem attacks, or a range of other stupid behaviors that are readily apparent on every page. It's disgraceful and embarrassing.
Edit: I'm down with the memes though, they're dope. @RU serious is killing it, man.
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omfg, you finally made an amazing post, we can close this thread.
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You should also look into DGLA. I posted a couple things about it.
I think part of this thread is just having fun. I mean, people have been waiting since 2016 and Fidia has been very quiet. I think the lack of evidence HAS lead to some hysteria. Anyways thanks for your input, I know you're one of the more intellectual members of this forum.
well f*****g post some proof then, and stop being a bell
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Is anyone reliable going to the conference?
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Really do hope they announce the release date.
Why do you say that ? Do you have any info?
No, but that's what will happen in any case. Also some people are setting their expectations way too high.
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I'm not a cultist I just worship the one true hair god, praise be
Yeah that’s true all i want is maintaining my hair
Idk if this is wishful thinking but a hair transplant surgeon I had received a consultation from previously contacted me out of the blue saying that he can perform the procedure this Friday at a discounted rate. (not going with this surgeon)
Crazy thought though that maybe he wants to make money before the data is released and knows that most Androgenetic Alopecia sufferers will be trying this lotion before opting for a hair transplant in the near future.
This thread has got me thinking in some crazy kind of way.
Crazy thought though that maybe he wants to make money before the data is released and knows that most Androgenetic Alopecia sufferers will be trying this lotion before opting for a hair transplant in the near future.
This thread has got me thinking in some crazy kind of way.
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I really doubt that's the case, but interesting nonetheless.
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I actually believe this tho. Nw3 could easily be "cured."
Without reading a hundred pages what date are they talking about this with actual news?
Some of the optimists in here are just crazy with expectations from this. Even if this works amazingly well I cant see why you would not stay on finasteride, and minoxidil. male pattern baldness is so clearly going to remain a kitchen sink approach problem until its fully cured there is no doubt that more angles of attack are better, and a different way doesnt replace a previous way.
If this matched minoxidil and finasteride in results and effectiveness I would be blown away. That would be a miraculously effective product in my book. I dont think it will be though
What about the idea of this lotion using S-equol instead of the stronger R-equol as some other people have mentioned? I am curious to just see a real study on the effectiveness of equol its still very unproven IMO.
Some of the optimists in here are just crazy with expectations from this. Even if this works amazingly well I cant see why you would not stay on finasteride, and minoxidil. male pattern baldness is so clearly going to remain a kitchen sink approach problem until its fully cured there is no doubt that more angles of attack are better, and a different way doesnt replace a previous way.
If this matched minoxidil and finasteride in results and effectiveness I would be blown away. That would be a miraculously effective product in my book. I dont think it will be though
What about the idea of this lotion using S-equol instead of the stronger R-equol as some other people have mentioned? I am curious to just see a real study on the effectiveness of equol its still very unproven IMO.
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Oh I'm not getting off finasteride when this thing comes out. The only thing that could make me stop finasteride is if RCH-01 comes out and stops hair loss for good (even if that means re-getting the treatment every 2 or 3 years)
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Look up Equol thread and different types of estrogen thread.
Number one, S-equol doesn’t remove 5ar-enzyme but R-equol does. R-equol has also been shown to reduce prostate size and this would display a propensity for systemic effects.
I don’t think Fidia would bring this to market if it wasn’t better than finasteride + min. Obviously I’m one of the bigger optimists
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I looked into getting a hair transplant over a year ago and had 3 consultations. Decided to wait but 2 of the 3 later contacted me offering a discount. I am hopeful for this treatment but I doubt hair transplant surgeons will be worried about a topical.