Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Almas]

Now tell me what changes I will get by taking 2mg estradiol. Can I forget about sex life? My testicles are atrophying, so I won't have a way back if I don't like something?
Am I getting fat?
Will I be like a trance or will I just become a nicer guy?

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Don't you think FTMs fail so often because they have sh*t tier 80 years old man T levels?

They don't. Tbh I think ftms end up passing more often than mtfs.

 

[Gergely]

Now tell me what changes I will get by taking 2mg estradiol. Can I forget about sex life? My testicles are atrophying, so I won't have a way back if I don't like something?
Am I getting fat?
Will I be like a trance or will I just become a nicer guy?

ymmv but i don't have any sexual side effects, other than the fact i don't have any sperm
Edit: At one point i was taking 8 mg sublingual e2, 100mg progesteron suppository, 1.25mg finasteride, 0.5mg dutasteride, estrogel~ and i still couldn't kill my erections.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Now tell me what changes I will get by taking 2mg estradiol. Can I forget about sex life? My testicles are atrophying, so I won't have a way back if I don't like something?
Am I getting fat?
Will I be like a trance or will I just become a nicer guy?

You can still have a sex life and likely still get erections. Your testicles may atrophy after a long enough period of time. If you lose the ability to ejaculate, then yes they will atrophy over time. You won't necessarily get fat. I never did. Some fat might redistribute. But that's a relatively low dose still.

As for how you look. I dunno. You might just get nicer skin and end up looking like a younger guy. In my experience (and again I take a more extreme regimen with higher E dosages), I looked like a more attractive guy around 6 months to a year. There was a time people at bars would jokingly ask if I was in a boy band and compliment my looks. But somewhere between a year to a year and a half I started to look more and more feminine where strangers started suddenly gendering me female.

 

[Almas]

ymmv but i don't have any sexual side effects, other than the fact i don't have any sperm

What is your regime? You seem to be using even more estrogen, i.e. 4mg
Share how you have changed since you started taking estrogen. You see, I don’t know what I’ll look like if I jumped on this. And the unknown is always worry

 

[Almas]

You can still have a sex life and likely still get erections. Your testicles may atrophy after a long enough period of time. If you lose the ability to ejaculate, then yes they will atrophy over time. You won't necessarily get fat. I never did. Some fat might redistribute. But that's a relatively low dose still.

As for how you look. I dunno. You might just get nicer skin and end up looking like a younger guy. In my experience (and again I take a more extreme regimen with higher E dosages), I looked like a more attractive guy around 6 months to a year. There was a time people at bars would jokingly ask if I was in a boy band and compliment my looks. But somewhere between a year to a year and a half I started to look more and more feminine where strangers started suddenly gendering me female.

I don't want to look like a woman. I don't want to be confused. I want to keep my masculinity. I don't mind skin enhancements, prettier looking. But there is a point after which it becomes redundant. I don't need something like gender dysphoria

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Cant you use E2 for a period of time and then drop it after getting the desired results? Or are you getting dependant on it?!

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

I don't want to look like a woman. I don't want to be confused. I want to keep my masculinity. I don't mind skin enhancements, prettier looking. But there is a point after which it becomes redundant. I don't need something like gender dysphoria

Yeah I get it. Personally I think hrt is kinda risky if you don't want feminization. Good news is if you start going past a point you don't like, you can stop and most changes should revert. Though depending on gyno amount, that may require surgery if prominent enough

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Cant you use E2 for a period of time and then drop it after getting the desired results? Or are you getting dependant on it?!

Someone on this forum (wolfpak or something like that) created a thread about his experience doing just that, though I think he still had to cycle it on occasion.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Cant you use E2 for a period of time and then drop it after getting the desired results? Or are you getting dependant on it?!

Like, I plan getting on bica and maybe oral minoxidil and stay on it.
But I am questioning if I would need E2 as well to regrow, but then again... can I drop it after regrowth and continue with finasteride+bica!?

Damn... kinda scary to make experiments with your endocrine system.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Like, I plan getting on bica and maybe oral minoxidil and stay on it.
But I am questioning if I would need E2 as well to regrow, but then again... can I drop it after regrowth and continue with finasteride+bica!?

Damn... kinda scary to make experiments with your endocrine system.

Noah gained pretty much a full Norwood 0 hairline back using cpa, estrogen, and dutasteride. Then ended up dropping all but dutasteride and his hair is still doing ok. It recessed back to nw1ish, but from last I saw it seems to be holding up on just dutasteride now

 

[Gergely]

What is your regime? You seem to be using even more estrogen, i.e. 4mg
Share how you have changed since you started taking estrogen. You see, I don’t know what I’ll look like if I jumped on this. And the unknown is always worry

My life long back acne has disappeared that's about it. Form me estrogen seems to be overhyped

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

My life long back acne has disappeared that's about it. Form me estrogen seems to be overhyped

How long have you been on it?

 

[Gergely]

How long have you been on it?

Since 2019 december with some small gaps

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Since 2019 december with some small gaps

Are you on an AA and have you ever had your levels tested?

 

[Gergely]

Are you on an AA and have you ever had your levels tested?

Yes, but it's been a while and my total T dubbled since i was on bica

 

[Almas]

My life long back acne has disappeared that's about it. Form me estrogen seems to be overhyped

He has changed a lot ... Really looked like a girl. I would not want such a strong effect

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Yes, but it's been a while and my total T dubbled since i was on bica

Your T doubled even though you take 4mg of E? When I was on 6mg of E my T was under 20ng/dl

I think feminization becomes a strong possibility when there's suddenly an inverse relationship of T to E

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

He has changed a lot ... Really looked like a girl. I would not want such a strong effect

Bridge could pass for a girl if he shaved and presented that way for sure. But he still sports a beard and lives just fine as male.

 

[Gergely]

Your T doubled even though you take 4mg of E? When I was on 6mg of E my T was under 20ng/dl

I think feminization becomes a strong possibility when there's suddenly an inverse relationship of T to E

I was on 2mg e and 50mg bica back in september 2020 when the test was taken
I took my daily e after the test