Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

I am struggling to build muscle to have a rectangular shape right now. If the imbalance gets worse, it will be a problem. Plus, it's hard to build muscle on estradiol, although I haven't tested it.
Anyway, if it gives me great hair, I'm ready. But will it be seen on my face that I am taking something? Won't people start to see me as less manly, gay? Will people notice that there is something wrong with me?
Because @bridgeburn has changed so much in his regime that he can certainly be confused with a girl. You see, I don't want gender dysphoria
I don't want people to point fingers at me and say that I look like a girl

I have always looked softer and younger than my age, so I don't even f*****g care, Honestly even though I had sh*t wrong with me when I was younger I had so many b****s after me young and old but I was too ashamed and lacked confidence due to some problems I had to take advantage of the opportunities I had.

I will tell you this now after seeing things from many perspectives, almost every single guy that gets after another guy for looking feminine or not as hard and masculine is typically a man who is secretly very envious that his youth is gone.

The cult of masculinity is second only in its pettiness to the cult of middle school mean girls, if I knew now what I knew then I would have just laughed off all the faggots who decried me for not looking manly enough. I could have fucked so many wives of guys who looked nothing like me it's revolting I didn't.

I had morals this world does not deserve me to have.

All I want is to refill my chalice with youth once more and be a middle aged man with the youth of somebody in their mid 20s, that's it and it's totally achievable for me.

 

[Derelict]

I don't think cowardice is the right word. Hair has a different value for every person. I do not judge those for whom hair is not worth changing their hormones and having breast surgery. Everyone chooses for himself

A real man won't be afraid to cut off his balls, right?)

Actually the guy that castrated himself and used estradiol had to eventually start minoxidil to fill in his crown. I don't know what he is up to now or what the status of his hair is though.

 

[Almas]

+ you can't continue this kind of regimen for long as a cis men. Your testicles will most likely atrophy.

If so, 1mg estradiol should be considered. Maybe this is a balance? In any case, the effect of regrowth will have to wait a long time.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

I don't think cowardice is the right word. Hair has a different value for every person. I do not judge those for whom hair is not worth changing their hormones and having breast surgery. Everyone chooses for himself

A real man won't be afraid to cut off his balls, right?)

I posted an article stating that even for trans MTF, testosterone even with estrogen use is still a problem, the issues with estrogen itself are grossly and I mean grossly overstated.

"Manly" men do this all the time you blast and cruise steroids long enough, and unless you're willing to eat clomid for breakfast lunch and dinner your reproductive abilities and even the ability to produce your own testosterone is gone for good.

So no, it's about how badly and how much courage you have to take what you want.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Ok, everything is ymmv. But to put things in perspective, I've literally used E with every AA combination at times (cpa, bica, spironolactone) as well as finasteride and dutasteride. If I want to get an erection I still can without issue. But that's a big if, since I have practically no libido. And my testicles have long atrophied.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Actually the guy that castrated himself and used estradiol had to eventually start minoxidil to fill in his crown. I don't know what he is up to now or what the status of his hair is though.

That guy went off half-cocked, (no pun intended).

He clearly had other hair issues, insulin, igf-1, DHEA which were probably inhibiting hair regrowth.

 

[Gergely]

Perhaps instead of increasing the dosage to 100mg, it is wiser to add 100mg spironolactone or 2mg Estradiol. I dont know
Will 2mg estradiol in addition to Bica destroy my T, or will there still be? I would hate to get a feminized brain
In this regard, it makes sense to use 150mg Bica, it will increase estradiol, but will not destroy T. However, this is a large dose, it is psychologically scary to use it

So, we have 3 options:
1) Bica 50mg + 2mg estradiol
2) Bica 50mg + 100mg spironolactone
3) Bica 150mg
The first method is the strongest for hair growth

The hell are you talkinga bout "feminized brain" that's not how it works. It's like saying i'm transgender because i have taken estrogen. If you can't understand this much you should not touch hrt.
Also combining NSAA and SAA are a bad idea according by those who tried it.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Again, most men have zero idea how much estrogen they have going through their bodies, protip, it's a lot more than most men realize.

They only subliminally notice when it starts manifesting as things they don't like (like aging or hair loss)

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I don't think cowardice is the right word. Hair has a different value for every person. I do not judge those for whom hair is not worth changing their hormones and having breast surgery. Everyone chooses for himself

A real man won't be afraid to cut off his balls, right?)

If you cut off your balls you aren't anymore a man.

Fun fact: when you cut off a lions balls, he looses all his hair. Looking like a lioness.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Hey, I want to ask if DHEA is a problem for hair growth. My values are higher than the normal range, its extremly high.

That guy went off half-cocked, (no pun intended).

He clearly had other hair issues, insulin, igf-1, DHEA which were probably inhibiting hair regrowth.

 

[Almas]

Google translator gave out some kind of nonsense, so I didn't quite understand. Bika blocks the T, so if it's not too high it is not a problem. It is necessary to find a balance of T and Estradiol levels, which will give the desired result without unnecessary changes. It is better to get a result with moderate feminization than to get a result and greatly change the face and body

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Google translator gave out some kind of nonsense, so I didn't quite understand. Bika blocks the T, so if it's not too high it is not a problem. It is necessary to find a balance of T and Estradiol levels, which will give the desired result without unnecessary changes. It is better to get a result with moderate feminization than to get a result and greatly change the face and body

The problem is bica if used in too high doses for too long can cause your androgen receptors to become hypersensitive.

It is way better to gently lower testosterone levels and to use estrogen to overpower the effects of the test instead of annihilating any testosterone receptor activity at all.

 

[Almas]

The problem is bica if used in too high doses for too long can cause your androgen receptors to become hypersensitive.

It is way better to gently lower testosterone levels and to use estrogen to overpower the effects of the test instead of annihilating any testosterone receptor activity at all.

Do we have alternatives? Bica is the only thing that allows you to have the advantages of T and E at the same time. It's a convenient loophole

 

[Isneezedsohard]

Ok, everything is ymmv. But to put things in perspective, I've literally used E with every AA combination at times (cpa, bica, spironolactone) as well as finasteride and dutasteride. If I want to get an erection I still can without issue. But that's a big if, since I have practically no libido. And my testicles have long atrophiedSS

Ok, everything is ymmv. But to put things in perspective, I've literally used E with every AA combination at times (cpa, bica, spironolactone) as well as finasteride and dutasteride. If I want to get an erection I still can without issue. But that's a big if, since I have practically no libido. And my testicles have long atrophied.

Wait-- so if im understanding-- you can maintain an erection, but you don't nut anymore? Wow-- the human body is so interesting and complex.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

No, Biclutamide is basically a gamble, imagine one of those board games where you have a timer and if you keep doing the thing the game wants you to do before the timer goes off and something happens... that's bica.

The "something happens" is your scalp androgen receptors are shifted to become sensitive and you're fucked basically.

I am going to use low dose cyproterone and estrogel, estrogel is 100% the safest solution, it might not seem that way because there are a lot of nancy-men who are scared by it, but you have to understand you don't aggravate androgen receptors by having more estrogen flooding the follicle, the androgen receptor just goes "oh well, I'm outbid" and does nothing.

But bica basically is telling the androgen receptor "you're not allowed to do the thing you're supposed to" and eventually it's like "f*** this I will anyhow" and it upregulates.

The truth is, keeping your test levels low-normal, and using estrogen is way way way safer and far better for your hair in the long run.

 

[Isneezedsohard]

The problem is bica if used in too high doses for too long can cause your androgen receptors to become hypersensitive.

It is way better to gently lower testosterone levels and to use estrogen to overpower the effects of the test instead of annihilating any testosterone receptor activity at all.

do we think ru or Dutasteride could case upregulation as well?

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Wait-- so if im understanding-- you can maintain an erection, but you don't nut anymore? Wow-- the human body is so interesting and complex.

Yep. I haven't had ejaculate since probably my 2nd month on hrt (and am about 26 months now)

 

[Isneezedsohard]

No, Biclutamide is basically a gamble, imagine one of those board games where you have a timer and if you keep doing the thing the game wants you to do before the timer goes off and something happens... that's bica.

The "something happens" is your scalp androgen receptors are shifted to become sensitive and you're fucked basically.

I am going to use low dose cyproterone and estrogel, estrogel is 100% the safest solution, it might not seem that way because there are a lot of nancy-men who are scared by it, but you have to understand you don't aggravate androgen receptors by having more estrogen flooding the follicle, the androgen receptor just goes "oh well, I'm outbid" and does nothing.

But bica basically is telling the androgen receptor "you're not allowed to do the thing you're supposed to" and eventually it's like "f*** this I will anyhow" and it upregulates.

The truth is, keeping your test levels low-normal, and using estrogen is way way way safer and far better for your hair in the long run.

Dont. you think bioestro has a chance of going systematic?

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

do we think ru or Dutasteride could case upregulation as well?

Yes

 

[Isneezedsohard]

Yep. I haven't had ejaculate since probably my 2nd month on hrt (and am about 26 months now)

So do you still have libido? Or nah?