can you share hair pics?
Im hoping you have thick hair and just paranoid like adri who wants perfection…
Are you at least keeping what you have??
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Im hoping you have thick hair and just paranoid like adri who wants perfection…
Are you at least keeping what you have??
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Make sure to take k2 with the D3, specifically mk7, not mk4! MK4 can increase testosterone.
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I won’t share hair pictures, and no, I don’t have thick hair. How to have thick hair when I was fucked already at 17? Anyways, I hope your new regimen work this time.
@Adri23
I also live in Spain and its impossible to get a DHT via LCMS bloodtest. There are a lot of chances of your dht levels not being true.
Other things you can do is test other hormones to make ratios and knowing if your dutasteride is actually working (AdiolG, 4-And, 17-cetoesteroids…). In my case I have hight DHT with 1.5 dutasteride but very low AdiolG.
I also live in Spain and its impossible to get a DHT via LCMS bloodtest. There are a lot of chances of your dht levels not being true.
Other things you can do is test other hormones to make ratios and knowing if your dutasteride is actually working (AdiolG, 4-And, 17-cetoesteroids…). In my case I have hight DHT with 1.5 dutasteride but very low AdiolG.
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@Adri23 He is already checking all these and he knows. Good call either way. How’s your hair with high DHT, but low adiol? Adiol reflects 5ar activity in tissues. I hope your hair is fine.
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Which part of spain?
My last blood test looks like this:
Total Testosterone: 25 ng/dl
Free T: 0.21ng/dl (0.83%)
DHT: 18.12 ng/dl
Estradiol: 389.4 pg/ml
Free Estradiol: 6.75 pg/ml (1.73%)
Estrone: 163.3 pg/ml
LH & FSH: Near 0
3 androstanediol glucoronide: 8 ng/dl
Androstenedione: 1.03 ng/ml
DHEA-S: 199 μg/dL
DHEA: 3.01 ng/ml
I:ll get a new test result next friday. The thing is I had lower DHT levels in the same lab a year ago. I am also seeing hair thinning on temples and under trichoscope
how high?
did it at least improved or kept something to be still presentable in public?
I cant believe youre bald tbh
don’t spread misinformation. he hasnt been on hrt long enough to fully recover. the prolactin is bad but it’s still early days for SG
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What? Are you kidding me? We are talking for sky high levels of prolactin, not just slightly elevated! High prolactin can induce premature catagen. Also, cpa is not a good anti androgen, period. Tons of side effects, possibility to increase DHT, the elevated prolactin and the list goes on. Bicalutamide exists for a reason. He needs to redefine his regimen and address any other issues he may have. Anything can contribute to hair loss.
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CPA isn't the best for hair (or prostate cancer) in most cases, that's for sure, but it totally has its perks. I personally tolerated it much better than bica and used for far longer, more than a year compared to a month on bica, that made my stomach irritated and likely caused ACTH problems (this one Im not 100% sure). In the end tho, for me CPA caused hyperprolactinemia (on 12.5mg/d), which went away after 1 tablet of Cabergoline. After that I actually tried it at 12.5mg every 3rd day (b4 switching to GNRH) and it kinda worked out and prolactin was actually in ok ranges (around 550mIU/l while on 5mg EEn).
For the perks, the main one is better skin. Basically the same as when I was using progesterone, less dry, more tighter and glowier. Prog and CPA were actually the only ones that were giving me HRT glow. Tho, I'm not sure about the nature of that glow, could be both progestogen effect on skin elasticity and circulation and increased oiliness due to elevated DHT. So that might've been a DHT glow in fact.
But, jokes aside, the best skin of my life was on progestins.The other perks (well, at least they were perks for me, because I tried girlmoding at that time) were breast development and muscle/ligament/tendon atrophy (lost 2cm of height and 1 shoe size while on it). There are some interesting mechanisms behind those, but I didn't comprehend them thoroughly, mb later when I'll have enough time.
So, overall CPA can be manageable, but only on super low dose (12.5mg EOD ,or better E3D) and it requires monitoring of liver enzymes, prolactin and DHEA-S, and also some might benefit from taking Cabergoline once every 2 or 3 weeks. It's main advantage is, IMO, hands down, best feminizing effects, compared to other AAs.
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One thing I noticed after being on hrt for a while is that my hair kind of got thinner, sort of like a woman’s hair. Thus revealing more of the bald spots. Like it’s gotten thicker than before but looks thin like a woman’s if that makes sense. Either that or I had a slight shed and didn’t notice
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Dam you have to have a degree to use that f*****g drug. I stopped it long ago, it massacred my hair even at 12.5 mg every third day. Best anti androgen is having no balls unironically talking lmfao.CPA isn't the best for hair (or prostate cancer) in most cases, that's for sure, but it totally has its perks. I personally tolerated it much better than bica and used for far longer, more than a year compared to a month on bica, that made my stomach irritated and likely caused ACTH problems (this one Im not 100% sure). In the end tho, for me CPA caused hyperprolactinemia (on 12.5mg/d), which went away after 1 tablet of Cabergoline. After that I actually tried it at 12.5mg every 3rd day (b4 switching to GNRH) and it kinda worked out and prolactin was actually in ok ranges (around 550mIU/l while on 5mg EEn).
For the perks, the main one is better skin. Basically the same as when I was using progesterone, less dry, more tighter and glowier. Prog and CPA were actually the only ones that were giving me HRT glow. Tho, I'm not sure about the nature of that glow, could be both progestogen effect on skin elasticity and circulation and increased oiliness due to elevated DHT. So that might've been a DHT glow in fact.
The other perks (well, at least they were perks for me, because I tried girlmoding at that time) were breast development and muscle/ligament/tendon atrophy (lost 2cm of height and 1 shoe size while on it). There are some interesting mechanisms behind those, but I didn't comprehend them thoroughly, mb later when I'll have enough time.
So, overall CPA can be manageable, but only on super low dose (12.5mg EOD ,or better E3D) and it requires monitoring of liver enzymes, prolactin and DHEA-S, and also some might benefit from taking Cabergoline once every 2 or 3 weeks. It's main advantage is, IMO, hands down, best feminizing effects, compared to other AAs.
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T and DHT grow thicker hair than estrogens by default, also IGF-1 (which also thickens hair) is regulated by androgens and can be upregulated by them (in good cases), or downregulated (alopecia). The interaction between IGF-1 and estrogens in hair is much more subtle.
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A thing im gonna try when i get my balls cut (which should be soon cause the f*** are doctors waiting for, they are f*****g necrotic) is lowering my estradiol to 250 pg/ml. I remember I had better hair back in 2023 and it was because my shbg was lower and my free estradiol was way higher, i calculated it and it all makes sense. Went from 2.11% free estradiol to 1.75%. Seems to affect my hair quite a lot. My skin was also better before.
I suspect im kinda estradiol insensitive so the more free estradiol the better outcome
I suspect im kinda estradiol insensitive so the more free estradiol the better outcome
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Says who=)) I can only wonder how many degrees are necessary to somehow maintain your regimen (in addition to psychiatric). xD