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Pls_NW-1

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Boobs should not grow if gynecomastia is excised. In a year I should have gynecomastia from Bicalutamide. I will ask the surgeon to cut it out completely. When that happens, I'll jump on E
In the event that Bicalutamide does not help me solo
I like your plan, you're dedicated and it seems like your planning it out pretty well! Make sure to have a Plan C next to Plan B: E2.

Keep us updated! No, make your own thread, pls!
 

Almas

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Мне нравится ваш план, вы преданы своему делу и, похоже, вы очень хорошо его спланировали! Убедитесь, что план C находится рядом с планом B: E2.

Держать нас в курсе! Нет, сделайте свою собственную нить, пожалуйста!
Спасибо за ваши добрые слова. Да, я хорошо все продумываю, потому что эта проблема заставляет хорошо напрягать мозг
Я не вижу плана C. План C - это пуля в висок. План B может потерпеть неудачу из-за неожиданных побочных эффектов. Хотя я надеюсь, что это не изуродует мое лицо или мое тело

Не вижу смысла делать ветку прямо сейчас, если здесь идет самая активная дискуссия. Я пытался создать ветку о бикалутамиде перед тем, как прыгнуть на нее, но ее проигнорировали и она утонула
Я создам ветку, когда найду режим, который мне поможет. И мы все соберемся вместе и отпразднуем победу. И без полезной информации нет смысла создавать ветку. Сделаю ветку, когда получу результат и опыт, которыми могу поделиться
 

Pls_NW-1

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Спасибо за ваши добрые слова. Да, я хорошо все продумываю, потому что эта проблема заставляет хорошо напрягать мозг
Я не вижу плана C. План C - это пуля в висок. План B может потерпеть неудачу из-за неожиданных побочных эффектов. Хотя я надеюсь, что это не изуродует мое лицо или мое тело

Не вижу смысла делать ветку прямо сейчас, если здесь идет самая активная дискуссия. Я пытался создать ветку о бикалутамиде перед тем, как прыгнуть на нее, но ее проигнорировали и она утонула
Я создам ветку, когда найду режим, который мне поможет. И мы все соберемся вместе и отпразднуем победу. И без полезной информации нет смысла создавать ветку. Сделаю ветку, когда получу результат и опыт, которыми могу поделиться
Yes! I would recommend to have a Plan C, if E2 isn't working the way you want it to work.

Good luck!
 

SnortingFinasteride

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Boobs should not grow if gynecomastia is excised. In a year I should have gynecomastia from Bicalutamide. I will ask the surgeon to cut it out completely. When that happens, I'll jump on E
In the event that Bicalutamide does not help me solo
I do quite believe that gynecomastia can regrow even after the surgery. It maybe due to how most doctors don't fully remove the glandular tissues, since intensively removing them will leave the chest looking sunken and unnatural.



If preformed by a highly skilled surgeon, the reccurence rate is low, but not 0%.



This is what a surgeon concluded :
In addition to incomplete excision, regrowth is also possible if the underlying causes of your gynecomastia remain unaddressed following surgery.

Studies show that several different factors are associated with the onset of gynecomastia, including the use of certain medications and drugs. Alcohol, opioids and steroids are known culprits — if the patient continues to abuse of these substances after surgery, regrowth is possible.



In other words, if your breast growth is due to Bicalutamide, and you continue the Bicalutamide after the gyno surgery, there is a minimal chance for regrowth. Adding E might exacerbate the situation.
 

Almas

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I do quite believe that gynecomastia can regrow even after the surgery. It maybe due to how most doctors don't fully remove the glandular tissues, since intensively removing them will leave the chest looking sunken and unnatural.



If preformed by a highly skilled surgeon, the reccurence rate is low, but not 0%.



This is what a surgeon concluded :
In addition to incomplete excision, regrowth is also possible if the underlying causes of your gynecomastia remain unaddressed following surgery.

Studies show that several different factors are associated with the onset of gynecomastia, including the use of certain medications and drugs. Alcohol, opioids and steroids are known culprits — if the patient continues to abuse of these substances after surgery, regrowth is possible.



In other words, if your breast growth is due to Bicalutamide, and you continue the Bicalutamide after the gyno surgery, there is a minimal chance for regrowth. Adding E might exacerbate the situation.
Therefore, I must tell the doctor about my plans and convince him to remove completely. It will be difficult, but I will insist
 

Almas

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never in my life I could have thought that I would ever consider the HRT protocol. Baldness changes fate 180 degrees
 

JaneyElizabeth

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I will definitely become a forum celebrity lol
Virtually all of it is reversible when one desists. Breast growth is the main exception and that often can shrink particularly for people who don't carry mature cis-female-like breasts which is 99 percent of HRT MtF's. Some claim that Serms will reduce breast size but that's not something that most MtF's are shooting for. There are some non-binary tops though that use Serms.
 

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Sexually, the orgasms for MtF's continue although they are female-like. You won't have as much interest in sex but you won't have that flush of sexual desire that males experience. Many are unable to use their hands anymore though because the necessary motions are different. As an MtF, the motions are either circular or vibrational that excite, at least for those who want and experience atrophy, which is I would say at least half of us. It was more common when transsexuals (dying term) were the only ones on HRT.
 

Almas

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Virtually all of it is reversible when one desists. Breast growth is the main exception and that often can shrink particularly for people who don't carry mature cis-female-like breasts which is 99 percent of HRT MtF's. Some claim that Serms will reduce breast size but that's not something that most MtF's are shooting for. There are some non-binary tops though that use Serms.
I have no interest in sex anymore. On one Finasteride. I have an erection, but I just don't care. I do not think this is something bad
 

JaneyElizabeth

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I have no interest in sex anymore. On one Finasteride. I have an erection, but I just don't care. I do not think this is something bad
SWIM, once said that you get a lot of time back when you aren't jerking off to cuckold videos all day long or five times a day.
 

JaneyElizabeth

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Unless you can hide the gyno by being overweight or some others means, none is better than the other.
In spite of the horrible name, which it isn't at all, merely pics, FtMporn often has pics of guys who have removed their breast tissue. I am in favor of free choice but often the results to me, look simply awful and concave and very noticeable. I think that if there's a difference that a reduction would be better than mastectomy looks-wise but we all differ. It's hard to explain but both @bridgeburn and I at least started the process as male and both of us had to make a choice regarding stopping or plowing through and we both plowed through.

This doesn't frame well as always since I have big round C+'s or D's depending but average for an MtF is AA. I am not sure of the variance but I don't think that it is very high since MtF's whine incessantly about breast growth.

Eh, I don't care I guess so I will say that mine, are everything you would imagine if you wanted to be female for a day. There is something hypnotic and pleasurable as they sway and they become very sensual whereas as a guy, I had tiny nipples that gave zero pleasure. One thing is that MtF's struggle often to wear bras because our chests are usually broader and the breasts sit either slightly apart <raises hand> or they are a considerable distance apart which makes even boob jobs for such MtF's complicated and to most of us, vastly over-sized although MtF's usually consider that a feature and not a bug. Someone asked me to post pics while obscuring the nipples which I did previously on this thread but I think I took them down as I felt it was more appropriate on my own thread. They are big and round, lol and now I love them but bcwywf (be careful what you wish for!)
 

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Difference?
One is full removal, I think and the other spares the nipples and some tissue. I dislike scarring and FtM's often bear in my opinion, hideous scars but maybe they think they are cool since many of them are ultra-masculine in approach. Virtually no XY's want hair everywhere but these folks literally are what we used to call "bears" in the olden days and as an MtF and an XY, yuck! The other thing is that many XX's have huge nipples so they have to remove some of that or it's a giveaway. Lol, as though standing 5 feet two inches tall isn't a giveaway. For some reason, heights work better for MtF's in terms of passing but I grew up at 170 cm or 5' 7" and I have lost an inch due to age and estrogen so that's not an issue for me. Even guys under six feet can make it work but no XX's under 5' 6" in my opinion are likely to pass easily. Eh, to each their own but many MtF's are beautiful and unclockable. The process isn't as realistic in the other direction. The surgery is not anything that I would ever even contemplate because I think their organs look bizarre while MtF's even with a mere vulvoplasty are indistinguishable visually. At the same time, many of us are eschewing surgery because it can have negative effects on pleasure and because many non-binary folks are okay with having a penis.

There is also the option of what I call a penile reduction which basically removes length. People ask and female hormones can shrink a person in the flaccid state to barely anything but pulled length rarely decreases more than one inch if that. The testicles depending upon dosage can go back to say the ten-year old size and state where they stay internal or partially internal most of the time.

And I am not ant-FtM but I calls 'em like I sees 'em. God bless them because Goddess will not!
 
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SnortingFinasteride

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In spite of the horrible name, which it isn't at all, merely pics, FtMporn often has pics of guys who have removed their breast tissue. I am in favor of free choice but often the results to me, look simply awful and concave and very noticeable. I think that if there's a difference that a reduction would be better than mastectomy looks-wise but we all differ. It's hard to explain but both @bridgeburn and I at least started the process as male and both of us had to make a choice regarding stopping or plowing through and we both plowed through.

This doesn't frame well as always since I have big round C+'s or D's depending but average for an MtF is AA. I am not sure of the variance but I don't think that it is very high since MtF's whine incessantly about breast growth.

Eh, I don't care I guess so I will say that mine, are everything you would imagine if you wanted to be female for a day. There is something hypnotic and pleasurable as they sway and they become very sensual whereas as a guy, I had tiny nipples that gave zero pleasure. One thing is that MtF's struggle often to wear bras because our chests are usually broader and the breasts sit either slightly apart <raises hand> or they are a considerable distance apart which makes even boob jobs for such MtF's complicated and to most of us, vastly over-sized although MtF's usually consider that a feature and not a bug. Someone asked me to post pics while obscuring the nipples which I did previously on this thread but I think I took them down as I felt it was more appropriate on my own thread. They are big and round, lol and now I love them but bcwywf (be careful what you wish for!)
I do agree that full removal of breast tissue would result in noticeable "i had obvious surgery" sign. For FtMs, i sympathize with alot because they don't have a choice and just like most MtFs hating their male parts and such, FtMs hate their apparent female sides. Mastectomy, despite the scars and look wise, it brings FtMs some relief and acceptance with their bodies, and when done by an expert surgeon, it can look natural and just part of the body.





For MtFs, alot do complain about breast size as you have mentioned, but some don't even know that cis-females do so as well. The first thing you would hear a cis-female complain about, is her breast size, followed by her eyes, her nose, her hair ect... So it is not weird at all in the grand scheme of things.



Estradiol (talking about its effects on MtFs) will give you breast tissue, ducts and lobules no matter your chest size, because that is what it does (when in high levels or paired with progesterone, it can also enable lactation). I am happy that you are satisfied with your breast growth, as you should be, cause breast implants just scream "fake" to people.




Moral of the story is, bcwywf.
 
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